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On June 15 2012 07:25 arb wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 15 2012 07:04 Antyee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 05:45 Requizen wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 15 2012 05:40 De4ngus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 05:28 gtrsrs wrote:
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.
i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.
also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?
also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support hero the egos people have down there are hilarious. im amazing and u all suck im not supporting because i have to carry mehmehmehmehmeh. looool. It's never anyone's own fault for dying! It's the jungler's for not ganking/support for not healing/top for not roaming/mid for not winning his lane/AD for not having a 20 minute IE and PD! This reminds me of that one time when our mid fed the enemy Ryze 5 kills in 10 minutes, and blamed me, 'cause supports should not only help the ad carry earlygame. Oh, and he was playing Cassio of all champs. EDIT: I think an IP-reduction for 1 or max 2 games would be the best. I think even reducing IP for a dodge is dumb, because I get in queue and hell I dunno my mother needs me to run to the store and I have to dodge, I then have to come back and sit through a game or two where i know its just wasting time because im getting jack shit for IP, just because of some unforeseen circumstance earlier. Thats dumb. If anything make it double the dodge queue, instead of starting at 5 or 6 or whatever 10 or 12 for dodging ranked.
I'd rather lose a bit of ip than time. I don't really care about how much more time it takes to get a new champ as long as I'm having fun playing the game. If I really want to farm IP, I just spam normal games with Morgana or Leblanc.
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On June 15 2012 05:28 gtrsrs wrote:
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.
i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.
also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?
also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support hero
I'm fairly certain that several artists for Magic: The Gathering have had the copies of their art sell for a large sum of money.
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On June 15 2012 07:44 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 05:28 gtrsrs wrote:
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.
i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.
also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?
also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support hero I'm fairly certain that several artists for Magic: The Gathering have had the copies of their art sell for a large sum of money.
Yep, I own a full Print Jace, the Mind Sculptor signed. It ran me about 35$.
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This is a good thing. I've been gaming the elo dodge system for months now. I think riot is stupid for only realizing that elo removal is a good thing.
On June 15 2012 03:02 Sermokala wrote:
Does a void staff and Last wisper give a flat 40% affect on damage calculations?
Ie if I have say 300 Mr and I'm blocking 70% of magic damage would a mage having a void staff make that so I only block 30% of magic damage or would I block 42% of magic damage? They seem pretty op for being only about 2k each and providing a pretty efficient boost to ad or ap on top of that.
Read up on the damage calculations yourself. I can't understand what you're saying and don't want to bother trying to understand. Iirc, in my calculations, LW and Void Staff aren't all that impressive.
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On June 15 2012 08:05 obesechicken13 wrote:This is a good thing. I've been gaming the elo dodge system for months now. I think riot is stupid for only realizing that elo removal is a good thing. Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:02 Sermokala wrote:
Does a void staff and Last wisper give a flat 40% affect on damage calculations?
Ie if I have say 300 Mr and I'm blocking 70% of magic damage would a mage having a void staff make that so I only block 30% of magic damage or would I block 42% of magic damage? They seem pretty op for being only about 2k each and providing a pretty efficient boost to ad or ap on top of that. Read up on the damage calculations yourself. I can't understand what you're saying and don't want to bother trying to understand. Iirc, in my calculations, LW and Void Staff aren't all that impressive.
What. They're practically required in many situations.
To answer the earlier question 40% magic pen would make a 300 mr character take damage as if he had 40% less mr (ie 180 mr).
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They might not be slot-efficient if your opponents only have 1-2 really tanky champions, but void staff/ LW are pretty good value for their cost
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On June 15 2012 05:17 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 05:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't get the comparison to Dota's stronger abilities for heroes. If all the abilities are stronger, then don't they become not strong in the context of the game?
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion? You're right about that, it's just a different game style. Riot's approach is to tone everything down so CC and super strong abilities are long CDs and shorter durations, while Valve took the approach of "as long as everything is OP, nothing is OP". They both work in their own settings, you just can't mix and match. The reasoning is that it's the most ambitious skin, period. Not only does it have the completely new voiceovers like every other (well, every "good") legendary skin has, it has some of the best particle effects in the game, and Ezreal actually has 4 different character models as he levels. He also causes unique death animations on minions and champions. Like Vaporized said, if you don't think all that is worth the price, that's your opinion. I'll be day 1 buying. Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 05:16 TheKefka wrote:
Er a buddy just told me they are going to remove elo loss when you dodge ranked games.
Wtf,won't that like,break the whole ranked que lol? I think it's to prevent losing ELO when you dodge a game because your team picks all AD carries and you don't want an instant loss.
Ya, I can see that a lot of work went into Ez, and he seems like an appropriate legendary skin. Everything from his speach, spells, animations, it's great. But according to a study on free-to-play games (not sure where I saw it, will post when found), you're more inclined to spend money after you first spend, which is where this Ez came in. The special sale will definitely help that, and while I do find that the price is too high for me, I can see that Riot probably put a lot of work into this.
I'm more referring to problems like this: Frostfire Annie/Annie in Wonderland. I'm not going to bring up how I feel about how costly a skin should be. Just looking at it, why does one cost 1820 while the other costs 975? I'm guessing Riot's team either decides which one they think is cooler or Wonderland took longer to make, but it doesn't make sense the same way Ez's skin does. Ez's animations are all much more detailed than his other skins. It makes sense that it would cost a lot more.
The other problem is one I mentioned already, but I'll go into detail a bit more: a skin costing more than a champ. I'm not going to refer to Ez's skin, because there was a large effort put into it. What I'm going to do instead is say this: if Riot's pricing works so that the cost of something is equivalent to the work put into it, then that would mean that many skins took just as much time as the champs to be designed. I don't believe this is true, but if it is, then you can just disregard the rest of this argument, and pretty much the whole thing.
If instead Riot prices according to what they think will sell... well, can't fault them for being a company and wanting to make a profit, but wouldn't they make more of a profit if things were priced lower than the champs themselves, all skins aside from legendaries were priced the same. They'd have a much bigger audience, and, if I'm right about this mentality, people will be more prone to buying them because "hey, it doesn't cost that much to give my favorite champ a cool skin to wear. Might as well buy it". Again, if this kind of thinking is proven wrong, you could disregard this argument as well.
I know I'm not a marketing department, and Riot most likely does have its reasons, so if anyone can clarify for me, that'd be great 
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On June 15 2012 08:14 Flakes wrote:
They might not be slot-efficient if your opponents only have 1-2 really tanky champions, but void staff/ LW are pretty good value for their cost
I cared more about slot efficiency, around the time I'd get LW or void staff, than I did about cost. Even then just tacking on an extra PDancer was about equal to a LW for dps at 200 armor, while PDancer was significantly better against squishier targets, towers, barons, and minions.
Saying LW reduces armor by 40% is an oversimplification. %armor penetration is only one of four types of armor penetration, and it stacks multiplicatively with the 10% armor penetration from just the mastery alone. The four armor reduction methods are calculated in a sequence.
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About the elo dodge, has anyone been in that situation where someone promised to feed because he couldn't get his lane or something like that? I hate that because I really don't feel like feeling any penalties for not wanting to waste a game. Wouldn't a system where a team can vote to make someone leave the queue and suffer those penalties be the better choice? I think someone actually brought this up in an earlier post, or if not, on some other forum.
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On June 15 2012 05:40 De4ngus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 05:28 gtrsrs wrote:
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.
i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.
also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?
also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support hero the egos people have down there are hilarious. im amazing and u all suck im not supporting because i have to carry mehmehmehmehmeh. looool.
man, i finally had the chance to really fuck with someone/teach them a lesson
so i'm 3-0-3, 150 farm at 15 minutes or w/e, really controlling the game, dominating top and bot lane, kinda ignoring mid cause it didn't matter, it was enemy brand mid and i'm skarner, even if he gets out of control he has no way to prevent being grabbed and gibbed
but our kassadin wouldn't shut the fuck up about how bad i was because i wasn't winning his lane for him
i tried politely asking him to stop raging etc, no go, it was just "you're terrible jungler" this, "learn to play" that
so i finally just say "okay buddy you're gonna stop raging, you're gonna say please when you want a gank, and you're gonna swallow your pride and say sorry for being a dick if you want to win this"
wish i coulda seen his face. he kept raging and i just let him die, told him the game was mine to win or lose so if he wanted his precious elo he needed to swallow his pride
finally talked him down into saying "sorry, thank you for carrying me skarner"
i told him it made him more human
we won like 15s later
good shit i feel like i really made a difference
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gtrsrs.
How about do that to the people in my games, who feed all game then blame me for throwing the game (15/3/9 Irelia at this point) when I've been carrying their sorry asses whole time? "GG REPORT IRELIA THROWOLOLOL" - 0/6/6 Graves
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me and chobz vs loci and soniv come watch the soloq throws!!!
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On June 15 2012 08:37 MooMooMugi wrote:
gtrsrs.
How about do that to the people in my games, who feed all game then blame me for throwing the game (15/3/9 Irelia at this point) when I've been carrying their sorry asses whole time? "GG REPORT IRELIA THROWOLOLOL" - 0/6/6 Graves
you can do it easily
just point out their score, their CS, and compare to your score, your CS
tell them firmly that you are the only thing standing between their victory or defeat, the game is yours to win, not theirs to lose. tell them that they will apologize, they will stop raging, and you will win. just keep repeating it til they do it. then when they do it tell them they learned a valuable lesson, that it's easier to type "sorry" than "fuck you irelia you flaming scumbag feeder noobshit blah blah blah"
it feels really good
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Unfortunately we lost that game cause 1v5 is kinda hard and people dont listen when they lose, they just spam in all chat about how bad everyone else is
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On June 15 2012 08:25 Dark_Chill wrote:
About the elo dodge, has anyone been in that situation where someone promised to feed because he couldn't get his lane or something like that? I hate that because I really don't feel like feeling any penalties for not wanting to waste a game. Wouldn't a system where a team can vote to make someone leave the queue and suffer those penalties be the better choice? I think someone actually brought this up in an earlier post, or if not, on some other forum.
Yes, I had a fiddle say it was his last game and he proceeded to feed mid like 5 kills before 5 minutes, and the rest of the team just afked and waited out their push.
real stupid
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On June 15 2012 08:19 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 05:17 Requizen wrote:On June 15 2012 05:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't get the comparison to Dota's stronger abilities for heroes. If all the abilities are stronger, then don't they become not strong in the context of the game?
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion? You're right about that, it's just a different game style. Riot's approach is to tone everything down so CC and super strong abilities are long CDs and shorter durations, while Valve took the approach of "as long as everything is OP, nothing is OP". They both work in their own settings, you just can't mix and match. The reasoning is that it's the most ambitious skin, period. Not only does it have the completely new voiceovers like every other (well, every "good") legendary skin has, it has some of the best particle effects in the game, and Ezreal actually has 4 different character models as he levels. He also causes unique death animations on minions and champions. Like Vaporized said, if you don't think all that is worth the price, that's your opinion. I'll be day 1 buying. On June 15 2012 05:16 TheKefka wrote:
Er a buddy just told me they are going to remove elo loss when you dodge ranked games.
Wtf,won't that like,break the whole ranked que lol? I think it's to prevent losing ELO when you dodge a game because your team picks all AD carries and you don't want an instant loss. Ya, I can see that a lot of work went into Ez, and he seems like an appropriate legendary skin. Everything from his speach, spells, animations, it's great. But according to a study on free-to-play games (not sure where I saw it, will post when found), you're more inclined to spend money after you first spend, which is where this Ez came in. The special sale will definitely help that, and while I do find that the price is too high for me, I can see that Riot probably put a lot of work into this. I'm more referring to problems like this: Frostfire Annie/Annie in Wonderland. I'm not going to bring up how I feel about how costly a skin should be. Just looking at it, why does one cost 1820 while the other costs 975? I'm guessing Riot's team either decides which one they think is cooler or Wonderland took longer to make, but it doesn't make sense the same way Ez's skin does. Ez's animations are all much more detailed than his other skins. It makes sense that it would cost a lot more. The other problem is one I mentioned already, but I'll go into detail a bit more: a skin costing more than a champ. I'm not going to refer to Ez's skin, because there was a large effort put into it. What I'm going to do instead is say this: if Riot's pricing works so that the cost of something is equivalent to the work put into it, then that would mean that many skins took just as much time as the champs to be designed. I don't believe this is true, but if it is, then you can just disregard the rest of this argument, and pretty much the whole thing. If instead Riot prices according to what they think will sell... well, can't fault them for being a company and wanting to make a profit, but wouldn't they make more of a profit if things were priced lower than the champs themselves, all skins aside from legendaries were priced the same. They'd have a much bigger audience, and, if I'm right about this mentality, people will be more prone to buying them because "hey, it doesn't cost that much to give my favorite champ a cool skin to wear. Might as well buy it". Again, if this kind of thinking is proven wrong, you could disregard this argument as well. I know I'm not a marketing department, and Riot most likely does have its reasons, so if anyone can clarify for me, that'd be great
Riot prices according to what nets them the most profit. A long time ago they said that going below the current price points does not actually increase their sales, therefore they do not price them lower.
I agree that a lot of older skins have gotten the shaft in pricing lately. Regardless of what sold 2 years ago it's simply ridiculous that baron corki costs the same as party fiddlesticks or overlord vladimir, let alone more than soul reaver Draven (which has nearly as many features as Astronaut teemo). Riot is extremely slow at adjusting champion/skin pricing and I can only assume that it's because they're making too much money to consider doing it faster.
As for me I'm done handing them cash for 1s and 0s in a video game. I did spend a good deal of money but stopped because honestly they do absolute zilch to reward big spenders. Champ roster has grown by 100% (and new champs are all 6300 now) yet champ bundles are exactly where they were when I started this game OVER TWO BLOODY YEARS AGO. The only really new bundle, in fact, is the rune page bundle. The temporary sales pale in comparison to Steam too (end of May sale anyone?), it just doesn't make economical sense for me to spend money on LoL unless I play nothing else.
sorry a bit of a rant there guys.
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On June 15 2012 07:59 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 07:44 Phrost wrote:On June 15 2012 05:28 gtrsrs wrote:
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.
i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.
also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?
also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support hero I'm fairly certain that several artists for Magic: The Gathering have had the copies of their art sell for a large sum of money. Yep, I own a full Print Jace, the Mind Sculptor signed. It ran me about 35$.
A copy of that card alone is worth $50 in English, and much more in foreign languages that aren't Portuguese, Spanish, or Italian.
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On June 15 2012 09:01 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 07:59 Cixah wrote:On June 15 2012 07:44 Phrost wrote:On June 15 2012 05:28 gtrsrs wrote:
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.
i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.
also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?
also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support hero I'm fairly certain that several artists for Magic: The Gathering have had the copies of their art sell for a large sum of money. Yep, I own a full Print Jace, the Mind Sculptor signed. It ran me about 35$. A copy of that card alone is worth $50 in English, and much more in foreign languages that aren't Portuguese, Spanish, or Italian.
I stopped playing MtG a little bit after Ravnica came out, so this is based on assumption, but isn't the card worth that much because it's relatively rare and really good? I doubt the artists get paid more if their artworks get used on rare cards.
Also, how is it that those particular languages aren't sought after in the scene?
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I believe I remember reading somewhere that they considered the older legendaries to be much like older cars, they don't have as many features and shiny bits as the new ones. This I can understand as we've seen already how much skins have improved in the past year. It's understandable that many of the original ones(Tf legendary, Red baron corki, annie in wonderland) can't compare to the newer ones but rather they will be updated is anyones guess. I suspect at some point they will start to work on these older skins simply because it's a good way to renew interest in them and generate more sales. Of course with the schedule they seem to be on and more important things such as redesigning how champions look(Ashe,GP, soon to be Soraka,Kat) that it takes back priority because the champions have to be more important then the skins.
Of course they could just have an art team that doesn't quite know what it wants to do with those older legendaries yet. Price points aside in the end I don't care what other people spend the money they earned on and if they do spend money on something good for them it doesn't really hurt me(Robot amumu aside) or anyone else. I could however understand worry that prices may go too high for something that good but then again if every skin is -that- good it's not an out of this world price for it.
On more fun topic. I finally found an ad player who I can play aggressive with <3! A tad higher elo then me but it's just nice to have an AD see a hook or a silence or Tornado and act on it knowing I'll protect them and give them kills if they actually react to such harass. Of course now I am worried of going solo as I am in a habbit of playing in that certain style and I don't want to further the elo gap.. *panics*
Also, not gunna lie I want that PFE skin, I rarely play him but it's so shiny and Parn like shiny..
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On June 15 2012 09:11 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 09:01 Phrost wrote:On June 15 2012 07:59 Cixah wrote:On June 15 2012 07:44 Phrost wrote:On June 15 2012 05:28 gtrsrs wrote:
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.
i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.
also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?
also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support hero I'm fairly certain that several artists for Magic: The Gathering have had the copies of their art sell for a large sum of money. Yep, I own a full Print Jace, the Mind Sculptor signed. It ran me about 35$. A copy of that card alone is worth $50 in English, and much more in foreign languages that aren't Portuguese, Spanish, or Italian. I stopped playing MtG a little bit after Ravnica came out, so this is based on assumption, but isn't the card worth that much because it's relatively rare and really good? I doubt the artists get paid more if their artworks get used on rare cards. Also, how is it that those particular languages aren't sought after in the scene?
I assume they can get higher prices for art that appears on rare, sought after cards since they can become iconic, especially major tournament cards since a lot of the artists sell their stuff at big tournaments.
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