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Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
June 14 2012 20:01 GMT
#1441
i dont see why anyone would be upset about the price for the new ez skin. riot obviously put a lot of work into it, and 25 bucks is the price they chose to sell it at. if its not worth that much money to u then dont buy it.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
June 14 2012 20:12 GMT
#1442
I don't get the comparison to Dota's stronger abilities for heroes. If all the abilities are stronger, then don't they become not strong in the context of the game?
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 20:13:43
June 14 2012 20:13 GMT
#1443
On June 15 2012 05:01 Vaporized wrote:
i dont see why anyone would be upset about the price for the new ez skin. riot obviously put a lot of work into it, and 25 bucks is the price they chose to sell it at. if its not worth that much money to u then dont buy it.

/thread.
On June 15 2012 05:12 Dark_Chill wrote:

Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion?

They put as much or more effort into it, hence it's worth the same or more.
currently rooting for myself.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22584 Posts
June 14 2012 20:14 GMT
#1444
On June 15 2012 05:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't get the comparison to Dota's stronger abilities for heroes. If all the abilities are stronger, then don't they become not strong in the context of the game?
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion?


Balance through everyone being OP isnt a health form of balance.
The reason Dotas abilities are stronger is because the game works different and it works in those settings.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 14 2012 20:15 GMT
#1445
On June 15 2012 05:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't get the comparison to Dota's stronger abilities for heroes. If all the abilities are stronger, then don't they become not strong in the context of the game?
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion?

Not exactly.

Think BW- every unit is super powerful, but together they all sort of work. But they still retain their feeling of being powerful.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
June 14 2012 20:16 GMT
#1446
On June 15 2012 05:01 Vaporized wrote:
i dont see why anyone would be upset about the price for the new ez skin. riot obviously put a lot of work into it, and 25 bucks is the price they chose to sell it at. if its not worth that much money to u then dont buy it.

Totally agreed here.

I think a reason some people are upset is because they're getting affected by a marketting ploy, but don't they experience that everywhere ? -.-

Anyway I'm gonna buy it and I'm not gonna complain about the price :D
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 14 2012 20:16 GMT
#1447
Er a buddy just told me they are going to remove elo loss when you dodge ranked games.
Wtf,won't that like,break the whole ranked que lol?
Cackle™
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 20:19:22
June 14 2012 20:17 GMT
#1448
On June 15 2012 05:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't get the comparison to Dota's stronger abilities for heroes. If all the abilities are stronger, then don't they become not strong in the context of the game?
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion?

You're right about that, it's just a different game style. Riot's approach is to tone everything down so CC and super strong abilities are long CDs and shorter durations, while Valve took the approach of "as long as everything is OP, nothing is OP". They both work in their own settings, you just can't mix and match.

The reasoning is that it's the most ambitious skin, period. Not only does it have the completely new voiceovers like every other (well, every "good") legendary skin has, it has some of the best particle effects in the game, and Ezreal actually has 4 different character models as he levels. He also causes unique death animations on minions and champions. Like Vaporized said, if you don't think all that is worth the price, that's your opinion. I'll be day 1 buying.


On June 15 2012 05:16 TheKefka wrote:
Er a buddy just told me they are going to remove elo loss when you dodge ranked games.
Wtf,won't that like,break the whole ranked que lol?

I think it's to prevent losing ELO when you dodge a game because your team picks all AD carries and you don't want an instant loss.
It's your boy Guzma!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 14 2012 20:19 GMT
#1449
On June 15 2012 05:16 TheKefka wrote:
Er a buddy just told me they are going to remove elo loss when you dodge ranked games.
Wtf,won't that like,break the whole ranked que lol?

maybe your buddy isn't the most credible source?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11990 Posts
June 14 2012 20:19 GMT
#1450
On June 15 2012 05:16 TheKefka wrote:
Er a buddy just told me they are going to remove elo loss when you dodge ranked games.
Wtf,won't that like,break the whole ranked que lol?


Sounds to me like your buddy is trolling you.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 20:20:57
June 14 2012 20:19 GMT
#1451
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=25225855#post25225855

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Cackle™
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 14 2012 20:21 GMT
#1452
the removing elo loss thing is true
GANDHISAUCE
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#1453
On June 15 2012 05:19 TheKefka wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=25225855#post25225855

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

depends on what deterrent they're adding for it to work.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
June 14 2012 20:26 GMT
#1454
On June 15 2012 05:21 De4ngus wrote:
the removing elo loss thing is true


Happy birthday nubsauce.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
June 14 2012 20:28 GMT
#1455
Can't think of any realistic deterrent that will make it so ranked games don't have a million dodges.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 20:32:28
June 14 2012 20:28 GMT
#1456
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.

i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.


also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?

also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support hero
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 14 2012 20:28 GMT
#1457
On June 15 2012 05:26 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 05:21 De4ngus wrote:
the removing elo loss thing is true


Happy birthday nubsauce.

a wild tapiocaball comes out of a month of hiding.....
GANDHISAUCE
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 14 2012 20:30 GMT
#1458
On June 15 2012 05:28 Goshawk. wrote:
Can't think of any realistic deterrent that will make it so ranked games don't have a million dodges.

People actually want to play? I mean, sure, you're occasionally going to get people who dodge because they don't get mid or whatever, but the time penalty is already enough of a deterrent, imo. Most people are comfortable playing 2-3 roles as is, and personally I'd rather not play with someone who's a "mid or feed"-er anyway.
It's your boy Guzma!
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
June 14 2012 20:37 GMT
#1459
Am I the only one who likes the champs I am not good with (at least when I pick them up) the most. It would be awesome if I'd like the champs that I pick up and instant roflstomp the game with but I usually tend to play champs I often lose my lane with or overall don't do so well with because I like their mechanics better :[ And it's not even the high skill champs.
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
June 14 2012 20:39 GMT
#1460
On June 15 2012 05:28 gtrsrs wrote:
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.

i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.


also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?

also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support hero


Boy, 1500s sounds like heaven. Sitting in 1200-1350 all I get are standard team comps AND ragefests. Also, 1st item bloodrazor standard ww build np
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
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