EPT[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 41
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mcimba42
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Lmui
Canada6213 Posts
On June 10 2012 23:34 Shikyo wrote: I mean laning... As is the moment I try to lasthit he just fucks me up starting from lvl 1 You cannot trade at all from levels 1-3. He will win outright shot for shot throughout the game since his Q has more bonus damage than tumble and doesn't rely on tumbling first to activate the bonus damage. Draven does much more damage with his damage on Q than vayne since it has Spinning Axe: Bonus Physical Damage: 45 / 55 / 65 / 75 / 85 % of attack damage vs Tumble: Bonus Physical Damage: 30 / 35 / 40 / 45 / 50 % of attack damage The only way I've found to deal more damage to draven than he deals back as vayne is to tumble within short range, auto, condemn and auto while the condemn bolt is flying. With the silver bolt proc and condemn pushing him away compared to the one spinning axe+auto that draven can do, you win. | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On June 11 2012 05:02 mcimba42 wrote: how fast does the cow clear? he does have his q and his passive but i have no idea how much damage that does in the jungle, how fast is he compared to like shaco, is he aoe strong or does he end up having to auto attack shit to death? Ali clears pretty okayishly (HELL YEAH THAT'S A WORD) fast if you consider he's really one of THE strongest gankers in the game. I'd say he's faster than Shaco, especially after a couple levels in Q and/or Sheen. But really, it barely matters as you're better off ganking a lot of the time. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 11 2012 05:10 Shiv. wrote: Ali clears pretty okayishly (HELL YEAH THAT'S A WORD) fast if you consider he's really one of THE strongest gankers in the game. I'd say he's faster than Shaco, especially after a couple levels in Q and/or Sheen. But really, it barely matters as you're better off ganking a lot of the time. Yeah man, screw farming the jungle as Cow. Thats less time you could be tower diving like a boss and killing everything. Besides, I doubt your mid will complain they they get to take Wraiths and wolves whenever they up. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
TPA has uploaded some VODs from GPL week 4. I'm kind of amused that TPA has the VODs up faster than Garena's own YT channel. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
And why is there an AP scale on WW's Q % health portion? It's an... interesting idea, but what WW builds AP? | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 11 2012 06:29 Requizen wrote: New Teemo skin? Why not -.- And why is there an AP scale on WW's Q % health portion? It's an... interesting idea, but what WW builds AP? Magewick used to be the best troll build. <_< No AP scaling on Ult though. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On June 11 2012 06:29 Requizen wrote: New Teemo skin? Why not -.- And why is there an AP scale on WW's Q % health portion? It's an... interesting idea, but what WW builds AP? I would sell my kidney for that skin. Best skin ever. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On June 11 2012 06:29 Requizen wrote: New Teemo skin? Why not -.- And why is there an AP scale on WW's Q % health portion? It's an... interesting idea, but what WW builds AP? Have a friend who used to build APwick. Was so stupid. Q them>regain lots of health+hurt them. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On June 11 2012 07:47 Cloud9157 wrote: Have a friend who used to build APwick. Was so stupid. Q them>regain lots of health+hurt them. unlikely even at high AP values in the current build, you were more likely to do higher %-based damage than flat AP damage it was much better if you wanted to do a magic-damage nuking warwick build to get MPen and MReduction. i would get haunting guise, sorcs, abyssal when i was doing that build that said, it was super troll and in no way better than any other standard AD or tanky warwick build | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On June 11 2012 07:50 gtrsrs wrote: unlikely even at high AP values in the current build, you were more likely to do higher %-based damage than flat AP damage it was much better if you wanted to do a magic-damage nuking warwick build to get MPen and MReduction. i would get haunting guise, sorcs, abyssal when i was doing that build that said, it was super troll and in no way better than any other standard AD or tanky warwick build TL's residential WW expert has spoken | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On June 11 2012 07:13 Zhiroo wrote: I would sell my kidney for that skin. Best skin ever. I don't know about kidneys. But for 975 RP, I can arrange for you to have that Teemau Skin. | ||
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Qualm
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
The good news is after that he stopped ganking me from behind. We ended up winning though because yi and mf were good and our fifth cait finally joined when we were all level 10ish? | ||
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Sven Stryker
United States423 Posts
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eagle
United States693 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On June 11 2012 11:47 Sven Stryker wrote: So what happened to Udyr? I know this isn't the MLG thread, but I haven't seen him at all in either Jungle or Top lane during the tournament. I haven't seen him played in my games in a really long time either. Was the Turtle Stance nerf really that big? Does a new common top lane champ eat him alive or something? I think people realized he wasn't that special and had his weaknesses. Stonewall says he and skarner are just now outshined by other junglers. Wait no... nvm me Btw has anyone tried out the new fiddlesticks? How are his new clear speeds? | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
me and a bunch of people in my game just froze too lol. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On June 11 2012 11:54 eagle wrote: hes been played 6 times Down from the pretty much 100% first pick/banned at IPL4. I don't really understand why he was so randomly not top priority anymore. He just really sucks past midgame really. Dominates a lot of tops, and has awesome clear speeds. Anyone care to elaborate what everyone discovered about him? | ||
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Lmui
Canada6213 Posts
In regards to champion picks though it appears that CLG's trying to bring sona back. Her level 6 combos with aggressive/high burst ADs are sickening to see. edit:: lane udyr Same deal with jungle udyr, he's exclusively melee with no gap closer besides flash and bear. More popular top lane bruisers at mlg (irelia, shen, nidalee, malphite, jax) have ranged skills/harass/gap closers that aren't MS reliant. | ||
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