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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#5681
Jungle taric is the only person I would seriously consider nashor's tooth on.

actually, reminds me that I used to run nashor's tooth when I used to troll top-lane taric some time ago.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 06 2012 17:57 GMT
#5682
On July 07 2012 02:34 yenta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.

Support Maokai is random?

Eh, maybe not random, but so obscure imo. The guy really wanted to play Maokai, and jungle was open, but he went Heal/Clarity Mao instead. It worked, though, poke and engage too stronk.


On July 07 2012 02:37 samthesaluki wrote:
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On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.


what elo are you?

Capped out at ~1370, dropped down to 1000 from a lovely losing streak. Bringing it back now that I go AD carry as Corki or Ez and dominate lane
It's your boy Guzma!
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
July 06 2012 18:14 GMT
#5683
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=26585153#26585153

well
+ Show Spoiler +
every girl is going to play this champ
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
July 06 2012 18:14 GMT
#5684
On July 07 2012 00:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 00:32 JokerSan wrote:
I've done some jungling taric after several botched champ selects and it's pretty terrible. His clear and gank potential are below average and his invading potential is non-existent, but his biggest problem is that he scales terribly and is just dead weight in the late game. You can't win team fights with two supports.

The jungler has to fill in an assasin or tanky bruiser role which Taric simply cannot do.


Then what is maokai and naut defined as in your book? They're more of a tanky support than anything with their tons of cc and utility. They don't go diving the enemy carry like a bruiser would. They don't have the damage lategame that a bruiser would. They're main jobs are to protect your carry.


Actually maokai and naut are really good at sticking onto a carry and cc'ing them out of the fight or peeling and protecting the carry. Taric has no mobility and only defensive abilities so he has to stick on the carry. Maokai and naut also have insane ganks and are much tankier than taric.

Taric can't operate in the jungle because he sucks in all of the key aspects as well as crippling your late game team since he cannot add anything more than your 2nd support.
LoL: Soles | forever 1600
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 06 2012 18:18 GMT
#5685
Has the Eve vs shake grudge/showmatch happened yet? So many pages since the first announcement.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
July 06 2012 18:21 GMT
#5686
On July 07 2012 03:14 JokerSan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 00:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
On July 07 2012 00:32 JokerSan wrote:
I've done some jungling taric after several botched champ selects and it's pretty terrible. His clear and gank potential are below average and his invading potential is non-existent, but his biggest problem is that he scales terribly and is just dead weight in the late game. You can't win team fights with two supports.

The jungler has to fill in an assasin or tanky bruiser role which Taric simply cannot do.


Then what is maokai and naut defined as in your book? They're more of a tanky support than anything with their tons of cc and utility. They don't go diving the enemy carry like a bruiser would. They don't have the damage lategame that a bruiser would. They're main jobs are to protect your carry.


Actually maokai and naut are really good at sticking onto a carry and cc'ing them out of the fight or peeling and protecting the carry. Taric has no mobility and only defensive abilities so he has to stick on the carry. Maokai and naut also have insane ganks and are much tankier than taric.

Taric can't operate in the jungle because he sucks in all of the key aspects as well as crippling your late game team since he cannot add anything more than your 2nd support.

Taric is far tankier than Maokai or Nautilus. 60 armour steroid and 308+ self heal on a very short CD if he is auto attacking. Taric also has very good base stats and decent stat growth.

There are lots of team comps that can get away with double support and work fine. Alistar hardly does any damage past mid game and is an extremely strong jungler. If you have high DPS AP and AD carrys you will do enough regardless of your jungle.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 18:26:12
July 06 2012 18:24 GMT
#5687
Taric sucks at farming. Has pretty poor CC for a tank also.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 06 2012 18:27 GMT
#5688
On July 07 2012 03:18 JackDino wrote:
Has the Eve vs shake grudge/showmatch happened yet? So many pages since the first announcement.

Yes...I watched it.
It went exactly as you'd expect.

As for that 101st champ...that pic looks like a CGI still from a video......
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 06 2012 18:27 GMT
#5689
On July 07 2012 03:14 Xevious wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=26585153#26585153

well
+ Show Spoiler +
every girl is going to play this champ


Looks like the nature mage that has been hinted at in the past
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 06 2012 18:27 GMT
#5690
On July 07 2012 03:14 Xevious wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=26585153#26585153

well
+ Show Spoiler +
every girl is going to play this champ

Looks like a Poison Ivy champ to me
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
July 06 2012 18:28 GMT
#5691
Kerrigan.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 06 2012 18:29 GMT
#5692
On July 07 2012 03:24 Slayer91 wrote:
Taric sucks at farming. Has pretty poor CC for a tank also.

Taric most fabulous tank. Es best.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 06 2012 18:49 GMT
#5693
New champ's name is Zyra.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 06 2012 18:49 GMT
#5694
Oh right I see the Zerg symbol on her earring now
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 06 2012 18:49 GMT
#5695
it's plant queen, a champ we've been promised since beta but was cancelled or some shit

also jungle taric is lol. why would you ever jungle taric when sion is in the game (sion scales, taric doesn't) and why would you ever jungle sion period when there are like 90 champs that do it better?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 06 2012 18:52 GMT
#5696
Lol scumbag Morello telling us she has something 'never before seen in MOBA' and yet fucking Jayce hasn't even been released.

I feel bad for whichever Rioter designed Jayce because people just really aren't excited for him at all, and now with the announcement of Zyra people will care even less.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 06 2012 18:54 GMT
#5697
On July 07 2012 03:14 JokerSan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 00:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
On July 07 2012 00:32 JokerSan wrote:
I've done some jungling taric after several botched champ selects and it's pretty terrible. His clear and gank potential are below average and his invading potential is non-existent, but his biggest problem is that he scales terribly and is just dead weight in the late game. You can't win team fights with two supports.

The jungler has to fill in an assasin or tanky bruiser role which Taric simply cannot do.


Then what is maokai and naut defined as in your book? They're more of a tanky support than anything with their tons of cc and utility. They don't go diving the enemy carry like a bruiser would. They don't have the damage lategame that a bruiser would. They're main jobs are to protect your carry.


Actually maokai and naut are really good at sticking onto a carry and cc'ing them out of the fight or peeling and protecting the carry. Taric has no mobility and only defensive abilities so he has to stick on the carry. Maokai and naut also have insane ganks and are much tankier than taric.

Taric can't operate in the jungle because he sucks in all of the key aspects as well as crippling your late game team since he cannot add anything more than your 2nd support.


There's a stark difference between "can't operate in the jungle" and "isn't the best jungling option by a notable margin". Taric doesn't suck as much as you claim, but he also doesn't excel. He's average. That makes him inferior to a number of above-average or excellent junglers, but that's not the same as him being bad.

Not everything in LoL is polarized to the extremes of "OMG OP" and "GAWD TROLL".
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
July 06 2012 18:55 GMT
#5698
Man reading the patch notes on Taric made me so sad. I didn't play him back in 2009 but I do remember when his toggle ult made him unkillable and he had 1.0+ ratios on all of his abilities. Some of his abilities sound super op way back then though... radiance healed his entire team, shatter lvl 1 base damage was 100, and dazzle was a 2.5 second stun. Jeez.
LoL: Soles | forever 1600
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 06 2012 19:16 GMT
#5699
Seeing my friends play 10 games a day every day and getting better makes me sad x.x I wish I had half as much time to grind solo que games as they do.

How do people balance 8 hours jobs, working out, playing games, and still having some sort of a social life? Shits depressing yo

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 06 2012 19:18 GMT
#5700
On July 07 2012 04:16 Perplex wrote:
Seeing my friends play 10 games a day every day and getting better makes me sad x.x I wish I had half as much time to grind solo que games as they do.

How do people balance 8 hours jobs, working out, playing games, and still having some sort of a social life? Shits depressing yo



remove those two, wololol
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
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