• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:09
CEST 19:09
KST 02:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202532Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation Serral wins EWC 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
2025 Season 2 Ladder map pool Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 722 users

[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 285

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 283 284 285 286 287 288 Next
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#5681
Jungle taric is the only person I would seriously consider nashor's tooth on.

actually, reminds me that I used to run nashor's tooth when I used to troll top-lane taric some time ago.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 06 2012 17:57 GMT
#5682
On July 07 2012 02:34 yenta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.

Support Maokai is random?

Eh, maybe not random, but so obscure imo. The guy really wanted to play Maokai, and jungle was open, but he went Heal/Clarity Mao instead. It worked, though, poke and engage too stronk.


On July 07 2012 02:37 samthesaluki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.


what elo are you?

Capped out at ~1370, dropped down to 1000 from a lovely losing streak. Bringing it back now that I go AD carry as Corki or Ez and dominate lane
It's your boy Guzma!
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
July 06 2012 18:14 GMT
#5683
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=26585153#26585153

well
+ Show Spoiler +
every girl is going to play this champ
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
July 06 2012 18:14 GMT
#5684
On July 07 2012 00:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 00:32 JokerSan wrote:
I've done some jungling taric after several botched champ selects and it's pretty terrible. His clear and gank potential are below average and his invading potential is non-existent, but his biggest problem is that he scales terribly and is just dead weight in the late game. You can't win team fights with two supports.

The jungler has to fill in an assasin or tanky bruiser role which Taric simply cannot do.


Then what is maokai and naut defined as in your book? They're more of a tanky support than anything with their tons of cc and utility. They don't go diving the enemy carry like a bruiser would. They don't have the damage lategame that a bruiser would. They're main jobs are to protect your carry.


Actually maokai and naut are really good at sticking onto a carry and cc'ing them out of the fight or peeling and protecting the carry. Taric has no mobility and only defensive abilities so he has to stick on the carry. Maokai and naut also have insane ganks and are much tankier than taric.

Taric can't operate in the jungle because he sucks in all of the key aspects as well as crippling your late game team since he cannot add anything more than your 2nd support.
LoL: Soles | forever 1600
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 06 2012 18:18 GMT
#5685
Has the Eve vs shake grudge/showmatch happened yet? So many pages since the first announcement.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
July 06 2012 18:21 GMT
#5686
On July 07 2012 03:14 JokerSan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 00:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
On July 07 2012 00:32 JokerSan wrote:
I've done some jungling taric after several botched champ selects and it's pretty terrible. His clear and gank potential are below average and his invading potential is non-existent, but his biggest problem is that he scales terribly and is just dead weight in the late game. You can't win team fights with two supports.

The jungler has to fill in an assasin or tanky bruiser role which Taric simply cannot do.


Then what is maokai and naut defined as in your book? They're more of a tanky support than anything with their tons of cc and utility. They don't go diving the enemy carry like a bruiser would. They don't have the damage lategame that a bruiser would. They're main jobs are to protect your carry.


Actually maokai and naut are really good at sticking onto a carry and cc'ing them out of the fight or peeling and protecting the carry. Taric has no mobility and only defensive abilities so he has to stick on the carry. Maokai and naut also have insane ganks and are much tankier than taric.

Taric can't operate in the jungle because he sucks in all of the key aspects as well as crippling your late game team since he cannot add anything more than your 2nd support.

Taric is far tankier than Maokai or Nautilus. 60 armour steroid and 308+ self heal on a very short CD if he is auto attacking. Taric also has very good base stats and decent stat growth.

There are lots of team comps that can get away with double support and work fine. Alistar hardly does any damage past mid game and is an extremely strong jungler. If you have high DPS AP and AD carrys you will do enough regardless of your jungle.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 18:26:12
July 06 2012 18:24 GMT
#5687
Taric sucks at farming. Has pretty poor CC for a tank also.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 06 2012 18:27 GMT
#5688
On July 07 2012 03:18 JackDino wrote:
Has the Eve vs shake grudge/showmatch happened yet? So many pages since the first announcement.

Yes...I watched it.
It went exactly as you'd expect.

As for that 101st champ...that pic looks like a CGI still from a video......
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 06 2012 18:27 GMT
#5689
On July 07 2012 03:14 Xevious wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=26585153#26585153

well
+ Show Spoiler +
every girl is going to play this champ


Looks like the nature mage that has been hinted at in the past
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 06 2012 18:27 GMT
#5690
On July 07 2012 03:14 Xevious wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=26585153#26585153

well
+ Show Spoiler +
every girl is going to play this champ

Looks like a Poison Ivy champ to me
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 06 2012 18:28 GMT
#5691
Kerrigan.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 06 2012 18:29 GMT
#5692
On July 07 2012 03:24 Slayer91 wrote:
Taric sucks at farming. Has pretty poor CC for a tank also.

Taric most fabulous tank. Es best.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 06 2012 18:49 GMT
#5693
New champ's name is Zyra.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 06 2012 18:49 GMT
#5694
Oh right I see the Zerg symbol on her earring now
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 06 2012 18:49 GMT
#5695
it's plant queen, a champ we've been promised since beta but was cancelled or some shit

also jungle taric is lol. why would you ever jungle taric when sion is in the game (sion scales, taric doesn't) and why would you ever jungle sion period when there are like 90 champs that do it better?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 06 2012 18:52 GMT
#5696
Lol scumbag Morello telling us she has something 'never before seen in MOBA' and yet fucking Jayce hasn't even been released.

I feel bad for whichever Rioter designed Jayce because people just really aren't excited for him at all, and now with the announcement of Zyra people will care even less.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 06 2012 18:54 GMT
#5697
On July 07 2012 03:14 JokerSan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 00:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
On July 07 2012 00:32 JokerSan wrote:
I've done some jungling taric after several botched champ selects and it's pretty terrible. His clear and gank potential are below average and his invading potential is non-existent, but his biggest problem is that he scales terribly and is just dead weight in the late game. You can't win team fights with two supports.

The jungler has to fill in an assasin or tanky bruiser role which Taric simply cannot do.


Then what is maokai and naut defined as in your book? They're more of a tanky support than anything with their tons of cc and utility. They don't go diving the enemy carry like a bruiser would. They don't have the damage lategame that a bruiser would. They're main jobs are to protect your carry.


Actually maokai and naut are really good at sticking onto a carry and cc'ing them out of the fight or peeling and protecting the carry. Taric has no mobility and only defensive abilities so he has to stick on the carry. Maokai and naut also have insane ganks and are much tankier than taric.

Taric can't operate in the jungle because he sucks in all of the key aspects as well as crippling your late game team since he cannot add anything more than your 2nd support.


There's a stark difference between "can't operate in the jungle" and "isn't the best jungling option by a notable margin". Taric doesn't suck as much as you claim, but he also doesn't excel. He's average. That makes him inferior to a number of above-average or excellent junglers, but that's not the same as him being bad.

Not everything in LoL is polarized to the extremes of "OMG OP" and "GAWD TROLL".
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
July 06 2012 18:55 GMT
#5698
Man reading the patch notes on Taric made me so sad. I didn't play him back in 2009 but I do remember when his toggle ult made him unkillable and he had 1.0+ ratios on all of his abilities. Some of his abilities sound super op way back then though... radiance healed his entire team, shatter lvl 1 base damage was 100, and dazzle was a 2.5 second stun. Jeez.
LoL: Soles | forever 1600
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 06 2012 19:16 GMT
#5699
Seeing my friends play 10 games a day every day and getting better makes me sad x.x I wish I had half as much time to grind solo que games as they do.

How do people balance 8 hours jobs, working out, playing games, and still having some sort of a social life? Shits depressing yo

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 06 2012 19:18 GMT
#5700
On July 07 2012 04:16 Perplex wrote:
Seeing my friends play 10 games a day every day and getting better makes me sad x.x I wish I had half as much time to grind solo que games as they do.

How do people balance 8 hours jobs, working out, playing games, and still having some sort of a social life? Shits depressing yo



remove those two, wololol
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Prev 1 283 284 285 286 287 288 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV European League
16:00
Playoffs Day 1
ByuN vs YoungYakovLIVE!
MaNa vs TBD
ShoWTimE vs Nicoract
Harstem vs ArT
WardiTV776
TKL 274
IndyStarCraft 178
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .288
TKL 274
IndyStarCraft 178
UpATreeSC 159
JuggernautJason94
ProTech62
BRAT_OK 49
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35218
Bisu 1695
EffOrt 1318
ggaemo 780
Larva 658
Mini 578
firebathero 483
Snow 175
TY 98
Mong 94
[ Show more ]
PianO 94
Hyun 57
Sharp 53
Movie 41
zelot 27
Aegong 21
Shine 20
Terrorterran 20
Stormgate
RushiSC52
Dota 2
Gorgc6335
qojqva3376
XcaliburYe291
Counter-Strike
fl0m3108
sgares205
Other Games
gofns11571
singsing1577
Beastyqt725
B2W.Neo248
Lowko226
crisheroes209
QueenE63
Trikslyr61
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta48
• poizon28 39
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV535
League of Legends
• Nemesis5524
Other Games
• Shiphtur207
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
9h 51m
CranKy Ducklings
16h 51m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
18h 51m
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
22h 51m
Shameless vs MaxPax
HeRoMaRinE vs SKillous
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 16h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 20h
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 22h
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.