• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:04
CET 00:04
KST 08:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 100SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1820Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/
Tourneys
SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Elden Ring Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 879 users

[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 287

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 285 286 287 288 Next
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5721
On July 07 2012 06:56 Alaric wrote:
Yay, I'm past 1400 for the first time since my placement matches.
But... well, I didn't carry or anything. So when my lucky streak is gonna end, I'm gonna get trashed for several games in a row before I get closer to my rating and that's probably gonna hurt. x)


I'm having the time of my life around 1400. Those games are so much fun. =S
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 06 2012 22:24 GMT
#5722
I carried myself to ~1300. But the following games weren't stellar on my part, and I've been carried more than once up to 1400. So I don't expect to be able to do too well as of now. Which isn't a bad thing: what was frustrating around 1200 was losing not because of my own skill, but rather my inability to carry (the classic "win lane lose game"), or not having the proper mindset (less freezing, more roaming). So if I hit a wall now, or if I start getting destroyed even in solo lanes, then it'll set the bar for new improvements. \o/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
July 06 2012 22:28 GMT
#5723
On July 07 2012 02:57 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 02:34 yenta wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.

Support Maokai is random?

Eh, maybe not random, but so obscure imo. The guy really wanted to play Maokai, and jungle was open, but he went Heal/Clarity Mao instead. It worked, though, poke and engage too stronk.


Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 02:37 samthesaluki wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.


what elo are you?

Capped out at ~1370, dropped down to 1000 from a lovely losing streak. Bringing it back now that I go AD carry as Corki or Ez and dominate lane


Yo Vayne is just stupidly strong at low elo, all you need to do is farmfarmfarm and maybe get a GA after your PD and you are basically going to win 100% of the time after that.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 06 2012 22:30 GMT
#5724
On July 07 2012 07:28 ViZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 02:57 Requizen wrote:
On July 07 2012 02:34 yenta wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.

Support Maokai is random?

Eh, maybe not random, but so obscure imo. The guy really wanted to play Maokai, and jungle was open, but he went Heal/Clarity Mao instead. It worked, though, poke and engage too stronk.


On July 07 2012 02:37 samthesaluki wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.


what elo are you?

Capped out at ~1370, dropped down to 1000 from a lovely losing streak. Bringing it back now that I go AD carry as Corki or Ez and dominate lane


Yo Vayne is just stupidly strong at low elo, all you need to do is farmfarmfarm and maybe get a GA after your PD and you are basically going to win 100% of the time after that.

That's true for any other carry aswell lol, vayne just kills faster but if all you do is farmfarmfarm it doesn't matter that much at low elo.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 22:46:33
July 06 2012 22:30 GMT
#5725
On July 07 2012 04:16 Perplex wrote:
Seeing my friends play 10 games a day every day and getting better makes me sad x.x I wish I had half as much time to grind solo que games as they do.

How do people balance 8 hours jobs, working out, playing games, and still having some sort of a social life? Shits depressing yo

Time Management

Pick 2-3 days a week to work out, find somewhere that's convenient to use (bonus points for minimizing time spent in traffic by when and where you go). Mondays suck and Fridays you want to screw around, so usually not those.

Fri-Sun is typical social days. That leaves you at least 3 days a week just to sit on your ass playing league from 6:30 to 11pm.
twitch.tv/cratonz
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 06 2012 22:32 GMT
#5726
On July 07 2012 05:59 Xevious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 04:29 Zhiroo wrote:
Anyone know how exactly the new dodge timer for ranked works? I dodged one game yesterday and had to wait 30 minutes. I dodged another today over 24 hours before the one yesterday and I have to wait 1 hour.

the dodge system is less complicated when you don't travel back in time

Hehe

On July 06 2012 15:51 Morfildur wrote:
That reminds me... are they useful in any situation before late-late game where you have a full set and too much gold?

They're not even useful late game. You should be letting your team farm or buying oracles if you're that much ahead.
I used to get red pots to try to win trades top but sometimes people don't trade you and other times I forget to press the pot button. It'd be even worse if I died while using red pot. Finally, it doesn't feel worth it to gimp yourself 250 gold to have a chance for a kill.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 23:03:45
July 06 2012 22:44 GMT
#5727
Played a game with Corki, ended the game 12/4/12 as a loss, my counter pick skills don't scale well into late game.

+ Show Spoiler +
Our top riven was weak and our tank line was basically Lee, Riven which could not stop ryze



This was my own fault I should picked Ashe or Trist and the game would have been easy. The more you know i guess. ¨
¨
This also ties into another point Trist is really strong right now Graves used to be very good vs her but with his nerf its not hard to farm through mid and early early game.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 22:49:14
July 06 2012 22:48 GMT
#5728
If anyone wants to smurf duo tonight (ranked NA), PM me on TL.

Accepting 1450-1750.
twitch.tv/cratonz
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 23:09:09
July 06 2012 22:49 GMT
#5729
On July 07 2012 07:32 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:59 Xevious wrote:
On July 07 2012 04:29 Zhiroo wrote:
Anyone know how exactly the new dodge timer for ranked works? I dodged one game yesterday and had to wait 30 minutes. I dodged another today over 24 hours before the one yesterday and I have to wait 1 hour.

the dodge system is less complicated when you don't travel back in time

Hehe

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 15:51 Morfildur wrote:
That reminds me... are they useful in any situation before late-late game where you have a full set and too much gold?

They're not even useful late game. You should be letting your team farm or buying oracles if you're that much ahead.
I used to get red pots to try to win trades top but sometimes people don't trade you and other times I forget to press the pot button. It'd be even worse if I died while using red pot. Finally, it doesn't feel worth it to gimp yourself 250 gold to have a chance for a kill.


Thats just, like, your opinion, man.

I find that mid/early game pots may be worth it. 250 gp and you instantly go from being guaranteed to lose the lane/game to maybe having a chance to start dominating.

my .02

EDIT: Walking away from a fight with < 50 hp with red pot on makes you feel like a boss
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
July 06 2012 23:16 GMT
#5730
Best elo is 1700-1800. Described as being on the cusp of greatness, everyone is a ticking timebomb of anger. Unbelievable amounts of trolling. Unbelievable amounts of rage. Everyone thinks they are amazing at the game and refuse to take any advice or step down in the slightest.

Been spending all of Season 2 chilling in there.
LoL: Soles | forever 1600
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 23:58:46
July 06 2012 23:48 GMT
#5731
Since there is no activity in LoL general. Here are some personal things.

I have a king rammus skin, pink trist and Alistar something skin. ( bandito fiddle and another one too) on an account i barely use for anything other than smurfing ranked games with friends. I reallllllllly want an account merge feature. My current account has like 3 skins and about 10x the ip spent on my beta account.

Also based on some reddit post karthus will become fotm, I will have to pick up something else for passive game, I am not a fan of Galio (mainly because if played against correctly and with solo Q team work he isn't very good.) but i think he and TF would be the best to abuse if Karthus + Morg becomes common bans. Anivia and Ryze would be ok to pick up but they exert to little pressure on other lanes. I have quite a few counterpick mids but i need a better core rooster. Also my play time is so limited right now, I am working 3 12 hour shifts this weekend(today too which was friday for me 2 hours ago ) which means no play time.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 06 2012 23:59 GMT
#5732
On July 07 2012 07:28 ViZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 02:57 Requizen wrote:
On July 07 2012 02:34 yenta wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.

Support Maokai is random?

Eh, maybe not random, but so obscure imo. The guy really wanted to play Maokai, and jungle was open, but he went Heal/Clarity Mao instead. It worked, though, poke and engage too stronk.


On July 07 2012 02:37 samthesaluki wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.


what elo are you?

Capped out at ~1370, dropped down to 1000 from a lovely losing streak. Bringing it back now that I go AD carry as Corki or Ez and dominate lane


Yo Vayne is just stupidly strong at low elo, all you need to do is farmfarmfarm and maybe get a GA after your PD and you are basically going to win 100% of the time after that.

Disagree, she's the worst carry for low elo imo. Very weak laning and as you generally get terrible supports, you will lose some lanes really hard. She also cannot speedfarm at all if she falls behind early. I think that someone like Graves, Corki are much better in low elo because you can consistently get those 300 minions at 30min games that allow you to 1v5.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 00:06:18
July 07 2012 00:02 GMT
#5733
On July 07 2012 08:59 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 07:28 ViZe wrote:
On July 07 2012 02:57 Requizen wrote:
On July 07 2012 02:34 yenta wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.

Support Maokai is random?

Eh, maybe not random, but so obscure imo. The guy really wanted to play Maokai, and jungle was open, but he went Heal/Clarity Mao instead. It worked, though, poke and engage too stronk.


On July 07 2012 02:37 samthesaluki wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:58 Requizen wrote:
And now support Maokai. Low ELO = random things all day.


what elo are you?

Capped out at ~1370, dropped down to 1000 from a lovely losing streak. Bringing it back now that I go AD carry as Corki or Ez and dominate lane


Yo Vayne is just stupidly strong at low elo, all you need to do is farmfarmfarm and maybe get a GA after your PD and you are basically going to win 100% of the time after that.

Disagree, she's the worst carry for low elo imo. Very weak laning and as you generally get terrible supports, you will lose some lanes really hard. She also cannot speedfarm at all if she falls behind early. I think that someone like Graves, Corki are much better in low elo because you can consistently get those 300 minions at 30min games that allow you to 1v5.


300 farm at 30 minutes? Jesus I don't think i've done that in my life. I think it's easier to just take the aggressive approach. Try 10 kills in 15 minutes. When I boost my friends accounts I just play corki leona or corki blitz and win every lane


in other new, Jayce patch notes are up! No more speculation: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=26596827#post26596827
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 07 2012 00:16 GMT
#5734
I like how they added champion icons to the patch notes, makes it easier to read and better formatting overall
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 07 2012 00:18 GMT
#5735
On July 07 2012 08:48 Eppa! wrote:
Ryze would be ok to pick up but [he] exerts too little pressure on other lanes.

What.

Sure he lacks mobility and stuff, but as he is a pleasure to gank for, he ganks very well if allowed to cast his W. Plus he doesn't rely on any spell to dish out the pain, kinda like Cass: their ults are great bonuses, but they don't need them to curbstomp.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 07 2012 00:18 GMT
#5736
Although 200 seconds cooldown is sad, this patch doesn't seem too dumb. They buffed orianna but she shouldn't be overpowered, high tier tho.
A bit surprised by this gragas buff also...
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
July 07 2012 00:20 GMT
#5737
I'm really bad at maths why isn't the 10% magic penetration plus void staff 44%? 10% of 40% is 4% then 4+40? But it's 46?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 07 2012 00:21 GMT
#5738
Nunu buffs are out of control.

Ori buffs seem solid enough, though, not overboard.

I want to see the Singed skin changes pretty badly.

Don't think Graggy needed buffs, but eh.

Tiny Jungle Ali nerf on his passive, nbd.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 07 2012 00:30 GMT
#5739
About patchnotes:

Gragas: wow the buff on his E is huge. He'll be even more mobile now, too, that's nice.


Dr. Mundo
Fixed: Burning Agony can now be turned off at low amounts of health
I don't understand that one? You could always turn it off.

Nunu: so previously if you stunned him right when he casted his ult would do 0 damage, and the difference between interrupted at 2.4s and the spell being unleashed after 2.5s was 70% -> 100% damage. Pretty steep curve.

Orianna: gonna need to math out her passive to see when it's going to be worse than previously, but if you don't go over 2 attacks it's a lot better than before.
About the global cooldown, so I take it the delay between a Q and a W wasn't related to her animations (the way she lifts her arms when she makes the ball move)?

Sona: holy shit that champion prioritization is exactly what I wanted to be able to poke with her without being sticked to your target! (And even then, I recall being grabbed by a Blitz with 50hp under his turret, I press Q and hit two minions instead of him... how could they have been closer than him? x_x)

Dragon and Baron kills will now have a chat message and kill callout if your team gets the kill or sees them die
Champion-only targeting and pet control keys are now bindable
<3
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 07 2012 00:30 GMT
#5740
On July 07 2012 09:21 Requizen wrote:
Nunu buffs are out of control.

Ori buffs seem solid enough, though, not overboard.

I want to see the Singed skin changes pretty badly.

Don't think Graggy needed buffs, but eh.

Tiny Jungle Ali nerf on his passive, nbd.


I wouldn't call ori's changes buffs.. I've gonna reserve judgement until the patch goes live (tomorrow..?) but reducing move speed on her Q coupled with the damage nerf is gonna hurt. You pretty much have to max W now. Maybe the GCD change will be more noticeable than I'm thinking, but I don't like the changes at all tbh
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
Prev 1 285 286 287 288 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:00
Best Games of SC
Reynor vs Clem
MaxPax vs TBD
SHIN vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
PiGStarcraft568
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft568
elazer 148
ProTech141
UpATreeSC 97
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 75
Sexy 36
Dota 2
syndereN555
XaKoH 429
canceldota63
League of Legends
C9.Mang0224
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2349
Other Games
tarik_tv6039
Grubby5011
fl0m553
Liquid`Hasu217
ArmadaUGS154
Livibee89
PPMD43
ZombieGrub40
KnowMe37
minikerr19
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 28
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 182
• davetesta40
• Hupsaiya 38
• RyuSc2 6
• HeavenSC 1
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki96
• RayReign 20
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift2313
Other Games
• imaqtpie3454
• WagamamaTV438
• Shiphtur313
• tFFMrPink 20
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
3h 56m
OSC
12h 56m
IPSL
17h 56m
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
18h 56m
OSC
1d 12h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S1: W2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.