EPT[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 27
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TheBJ
Bulgaria906 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
On June 08 2012 06:48 CeriseCherries wrote: i think he hates draven? i dont think aphromoo has a balance perspective I guess you could say the lights on his headphones are the overly busy graphics and his balance has to do with how upright he sits, but that might be stretching things. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On June 08 2012 06:42 Craton wrote: I watched Aphroomoo playing him last night and hated him instantly. His graphics are FAR too busy. Even just his regular auto attacking and standing animations have graphic spam to go with them. I'm undecided on him from a balance perspective, though he looks quite obnoxious. He's supposed to be an entertainer with a lot of flair, so it fits his theme. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
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Alay
United States660 Posts
Makes laning with/against him really hard. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On June 08 2012 05:51 Cloud9157 wrote: How does Tristana beat anyone in lane? Doesn't she have one of the worst lanes for an AD carry? Could only see her winning a lane vs Soraka. Everything else feels kinda meh really. Gotta just farm with her and play for late game when you become one of the best ADs in the game. Tristana still super good. One of the only carries I can actually play atm so I guess take my bias with an (un)healthy dose of salt. Trist has very strong burst in lane. A lot of people underestimate just how much she bursts for at level 6, especially with the DoT on her E. It's also sort of like Blitz hooks where you can shoot unsuspecting people into your turret for cheese kills, but will likely only work once. Laning you need to try and control the wave really carefully so you really need a support who can follow your lead since E wil push the wave. Although if the enemy AD stands around creeps, the splash damage on E really adds up. When you decide to take Q really depends on the flow of the game so it's hard to really say when to level it. Her main problem is that level 10+ when she's still trying to level Q and has a mix between E and Q (generally max W though) she can feel a bit confused as to what she wants to do. Since you'll have IE around this time, you want to just sit around and right click with Q active, but that also neglects the burst from E and W-refresh so you want to still get close enough to chain combo everyone to maximise your damage since your magic damage is still relevant mid-game. Yet you're a squishy AD who doesn't want to be burst down. But if you manage to find a balance between the two you can really clean up a fight. Say, during an early Dragon fight you can jump into the back line, use R to break up their team and try and clean up before the tanks get back on to you. It's really risky though. Late game though she's a beast. Highest range out of the ADs (Koggles can go die in a fire grrr), has an escape mechanism in W, can antiheal a bruiser who dives her and try to straight up trade and out-heal thanks to E, and can peel for herself with R. It lets you play a lot more riskier with your positioning, and the W refresh lets you mop up people and reposition rapidly in fights. Pick off someone, reposition, refresh, reposition, refresh, reposition. It's not quite Ezrael levels of kiting, but I still find it relevant in about half of my games where the ability to have 4xFlash in a fight end up deciding Baron or something. On June 08 2012 07:01 zer0das wrote: I don't care if it takes me 1000 games, I'm going to get good at Draven. >_> Hue, that's what I said when MonHun Vayne came out. Good luck~ | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Seems like he's quite good in chasing situations since he can just blood rush all day long (literally all day long if you run scaling regen seals like I did xD) and mince people alive with your spinning axes, since it's really easy to catch them if you're pursuing someone. Same goes if you're running away. I imagine he gets abused by long range champions like Kog and Tris, and in straight up team fights it's really difficult to catch your axes and not get murdered. Also, it feels like it's about 1000 times easier to catch your axes in mid than it is in side lanes. They don't bounce off at weird angles nearly as often. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Master-baiter #1, clearly intentional Also, Draven is too much work, and I'm too lazy to micro him properly. Back to project Varus I guess... | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On June 08 2012 08:57 TheLink wrote: I really wish they would fix normal draft, kinda bullshit when they announce 3 patches ago that they'd done it. I play support in ranked and now that my elo is rising I wanted to get my other roles up to par, I can't play anything but support in normal draft though because in 23/23 matches I've been 5th pick. Normal Blind. I never play Normal Draft to learn roles. Normal Blind, call role, select champ, instant lock. If someone tries to take your role say 2x. Where x is your role to call their bluff. If they arent bluffing then just treat the game as a joke with 2x. | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On June 08 2012 08:12 Dandel Ion wrote: I like it when I move into the wrong direction to catch the axe, cuz I'm bad, and some bandage toss, etc comes out of the brush to the location the axe would've landed. Master-baiter #1, clearly intentional Also, Draven is too much work, and I'm too lazy to micro him properly. Back to project Varus I guess... I'm convinced Draven will be bad purely on how predictable his movements will be. I mean you could always NOT catch the axe, but that shuts down his whole combo. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 08 2012 09:05 Offhand wrote: I'm convinced Draven will be bad purely on how predictable his movements will be. I mean you could always NOT catch the axe, but that shuts down his whole combo. It's going to be so easy to shut him down... See him throw axe, morg bind where it lands... He can't pick it up -> useless for 8sec. I wonder how they're going to fix this | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
wat As long as you don't go full retard and sit in the middle of her pool she cannot fight you at all. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On June 08 2012 09:42 MooMooMugi wrote: How? Morde just spams E gets full shield, hitting minions and Akali, while Akali can't break his shield plus gets harassed whenever she tries to cs without Q Morde spams E level 1 vs Akali Q auto? Level 2 Akali Q auto shroud, level 3 stronger Q auto, level 4 QautoE etc. Idk it has worked for me in the past. Anecdotal. Morde has to super push lane to stack shield first and Akali is good at farming under tower as well has having good gank assist. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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