EPT[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 231
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 02 2012 11:36 Requizen wrote: I'll wait to see Nunu's number changes to make any calls on it. I think they completely missed the mark on his jungling. Nunu isn't picked as a counterjungler not because he's bad at it--he's TOO GOOD at it. There's simply no need for a jungler that's so lopsided toward wanting to farm the enemy jungle when the returns are so low on dedicated counterjungling in the post-remake jungle. They need to balance out the rest of his kit, not shift him into being even more lopsided. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On July 02 2012 11:43 MooMooMugi wrote: Might pick up Leblanc again because of her sick changes Can you tell me exactly how they are changing her? I cannot watch any video ATM | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On July 02 2012 11:40 TheYango wrote: Not that huge? They're buffing EVERYTHING. The post-animation CD change on all her spells is already potentially gigantic. Personally I would have just made that change, watched for 2-3 patches, then assessed from there. No point in doing such a sweeping overhaul in a single patch when she's not in that bad of a place. She feels amazing as a carry/utility support but I feel that she lacks a bit in terms of damage to warrant the solo lane and she is not as good as Janna, Lulu or even Lux as a non-farming support. I haven't seen the preview yet (no youtube in China) but I would welcome (very) slight damage buffs to her skills. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On July 02 2012 11:48 1ntrigue wrote: She feels amazing as a carry/utility support but I feel that she lacks a bit in terms of damage to warrant the solo lane and she is not as good as Janna, Lulu or even Lux as a non-farming support. I haven't seen the preview yet (no youtube in China) but I would welcome (very) slight damage buffs to her skills. what | ||
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CaffeineFree-_-
United States712 Posts
Edit: The e range increase was a really big thing that needed to be done, because if you ran into a sudden teamfight you had to be so close to a teammate to get it on them, will enjoy that. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 02 2012 11:48 1ntrigue wrote: She feels amazing as a carry/utility support but I feel that she lacks a bit in terms of damage to warrant the solo lane and she is not as good as Janna, Lulu or even Lux as a non-farming support. I haven't seen the preview yet (no youtube in China) but I would welcome (very) slight damage buffs to her skills. Summary of changes: - Reduction on post-animation CD of all spells to allow better chaining of consecutive casts - Q damage down, CD down - W AP ratio up - E increased cast and tether range - R goes on ~1 sec CD when the ball snaps back to you from being too far so you don't accidentally ult on top of yourself when you don't want to - Passive damage increased to make it more useful at lower stack counts | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 02 2012 11:54 CaffeineFree-_- wrote: Maybe I've just had too bad experience with ori, had some REALLY close games where I feel I just did util and not enough damage to win games but maybe we just got outplayed on other aspects. Wish giving feedback on LoL games was as easy as BW haha. See that's the thing. With such a skill-dependent champ, it's hard to really assess power levels from your own anecdotal experience. You need either a more objective assessment, or use a larger/more relevant pool of data. On July 02 2012 11:54 CaffeineFree-_- wrote: Edit: The e range increase was a really big thing that needed to be done, because if you ran into a sudden teamfight you had to be so close to a teammate to get it on them, will enjoy that. Since when is 1000 range "so close to a teammate"? It's a point-and-click cast with range that rivals most skillshots. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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CaffeineFree-_-
United States712 Posts
On July 02 2012 11:59 TheYango wrote: See that's the thing. With such a skill-dependent champ, it's hard to really assess power levels from your own anecdotal experience. You need either a more objective assessment, or use a larger/more relevant pool of data. Since when is 1000 range "so close to a teammate"? It's a point-and-click cast with range that rivals most skillshots. Seemed like to shield someone you had to get pretty close to the havoc, iunno | ||
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Xevious
United States2086 Posts
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On July 02 2012 11:55 TheYango wrote: Summary of changes: - Reduction on post-animation CD of all spells to allow better chaining of consecutive casts - Q damage down, CD down - W AP ratio up - E increased cast and tether range - R goes on ~1 sec CD when the ball snaps back to you from being too far so you don't accidentally ult on top of yourself when you don't want to - Passive damage increased to make it more useful at lower stack counts Well, this probably means that Orianna will be pretty strong in lane, depending on numbers. I think I like the change. Riot buffed her a bit and did it in a way that retains her flavour. It might actually be that the buff is a bit too strong though since she suffered mostly from her spells' post-animation CDs and a slight inferiority in damage. Her damage was certainly a bit lacking compared to other AP carries before. For instance, Anivia plays a similar poking AP/CC role in teamfights and her damage was far higher. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
edit: and a big thumbs up to global ult nerfs, most especially on Karthus. | ||
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CaffeineFree-_-
United States712 Posts
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On July 02 2012 12:12 Leporello wrote: LeBlanc isn't getting any damage buffs, or mana or CDs or anything too significant really. The Q was always a guaranteed hit, now just a bit faster to hit... The other buff just gives her a long-distance flash provided she wastes her ult on a double Distortion. Yeah, I like the LeBlanc change too. Gives her more of an assassin feel, but she has to sacrifice a lot of damage for her mobility. It's going to help her lategame a lot since she'll have DFG anyway and can burst a squishy with less risk. The Q projectile speed change isn't a big deal; it just helps her chain to get the silence off. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
Buffing LeBlanc is just moronic. Never buff a toxic 100-0 champion like that. Just remove or redesign her and stop wasting everyone's time with anti-fun mechanics. Longer CDs won't balance globals being too strong, notably the three major offenders of TF, Shen, and Karthus.
Still don't think Nunu will a good pick until Consume can be used on players like a mini-feast. | ||
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