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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
June 27 2012 22:06 GMT
#3761
On June 28 2012 06:57 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 06:35 WirelessWaffle wrote:
Mumu wrecks face so hard. I can't believe i stopped playing that 4 ft tall dildo.

Edit: Quick question for item gurus. Does abyssal stack? i remember someone telling me it did but only up to two. Or is it like aegis where it only works for the carriers? gonna go look on lol wiki.

Edit#2: From what i can find debuff auras don't stack... hmm



I would believe it stacks if two people have it like wota and aegis but since it's a debuff aura it might work different than the buff auras of aegis and wota


If you manage to give your abyssal to the enemy but still working for you..... (no it doesn't).
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
June 27 2012 22:07 GMT
#3762
I think. Guys, I think Riot's current strategy is releasing fun, situationally powerful champions that are subpar in coordinated play (pubstompers) so tournament play balance is easily maintained.

I think.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 27 2012 22:08 GMT
#3763
On June 28 2012 06:57 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 06:35 WirelessWaffle wrote:
Mumu wrecks face so hard. I can't believe i stopped playing that 4 ft tall dildo.

Edit: Quick question for item gurus. Does abyssal stack? i remember someone telling me it did but only up to two. Or is it like aegis where it only works for the carriers? gonna go look on lol wiki.

Edit#2: From what i can find debuff auras don't stack... hmm



I would believe it stacks if two people have it like wota and aegis but since it's a debuff aura it might work different than the buff auras of aegis and wota

How does it even make sense for it to apply twice for two people?

Aegis and WotA apply twice ONLY on the carriers. This is because the "self" and "other" instances of the aura are treated as different effects. Every non-carrier only receives a single instance of the effect. This doesn't apply to debuff auras because debuff auras don't apply to their carriers--they apply to the enemy team.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 22:10:37
June 27 2012 22:09 GMT
#3764
Aura items provide an aura that doesn't affect yourself, plus the same effect for just you. The actual aura doesn't stack.
Result: Auras like Aegis stack up to twice on the people who carry the item, once the actual aura and once the self effect. Auras like Abyssal don't stack because only the actual aura effect applies, and only once.

zzzzz.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
June 27 2012 22:18 GMT
#3765
wiat. abyssal does NOT reduce my own magic resist?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 27 2012 22:20 GMT
#3766
it does if you have two of them in your team!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13956 Posts
June 27 2012 22:41 GMT
#3767
the new heros are very hit and miss but I think they've had more hits then miss's looking at the last dozen or so champs.

Also neo mislabeled the darius patch thread the draven patch thread. surprised no one else has said anything the 190 odd pages so far.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 27 2012 22:47 GMT
#3768
On June 28 2012 07:41 Sermokala wrote:
the new heros are very hit and miss but I think they've had more hits then miss's looking at the last dozen or so champs.

Also neo mislabeled the darius patch thread the draven patch thread. surprised no one else has said anything the 190 odd pages so far.

wat
It's your boy Guzma!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 27 2012 22:50 GMT
#3769
On June 28 2012 07:41 Sermokala wrote:
the new heros are very hit and miss but I think they've had more hits then miss's looking at the last dozen or so champs.

Also neo mislabeled the darius patch thread the draven patch thread. surprised no one else has said anything the 190 odd pages so far.


I know not what you speak of.

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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 27 2012 23:09 GMT
#3770
Is there a reason Auras dont give assists? Like im sitting in a teamfight with for example Zekes aura helping my ad life steal while i stun or keep people off him or something and im not getting assists for anyone i dont attack

is it just me or is this really dumb? Or is it done for some kind of balance reason?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 27 2012 23:10 GMT
#3771
On June 28 2012 07:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On June 28 2012 07:41 Sermokala wrote:
the new heros are very hit and miss but I think they've had more hits then miss's looking at the last dozen or so champs.

Also neo mislabeled the darius patch thread the draven patch thread. surprised no one else has said anything the 190 odd pages so far.


I know not what you speak of.

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Dafuq? Dead men can't talk
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Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
June 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3772
What is a good counterpick to top lane Vlad these days?
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 23:14:46
June 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3773
Janna passive should also give assist gold. 2% move speed helps a lot. Anyways I'm guessing auras even from items don't give assists because they wanted at least be some effort into getting assists. Then it would also be weird how item auras give assists but hero abilities don't, because if they did Janna would really be overpowered.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 27 2012 23:15 GMT
#3774
On June 28 2012 08:12 BlackMagister wrote:
Janna passive should also give assist gold. 2% move speed helps a lot. Anyways I'm guessing auras even from items don't give assists because there should at least be some effort into getting assists. Then it would also be weird how item auras give assists but hero abilities don't, because if they did Janna would really be overpowered.

Well I mean if you're running along side them with aegis and they're getting the damage bonus and get the kill before you touch them you still contributed, i mean global auras i can see not giving them but stuff like Aegis Zekes etc really should i think.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 27 2012 23:17 GMT
#3775
On June 28 2012 08:09 arb wrote:
Is there a reason Auras dont give assists? Like im sitting in a teamfight with for example Zekes aura helping my ad life steal while i stun or keep people off him or something and im not getting assists for anyone i dont attack

is it just me or is this really dumb? Or is it done for some kind of balance reason?


It's a consistency issue I suppose. Auras and passives (Janna, Zilean, etc) don't give assists.
Assists only apply if you do a dink of damage, minimum. I think it's fair. If you're in range, you still get exp for the kill, just not assist gold.

On June 28 2012 08:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 07:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 28 2012 07:41 Sermokala wrote:
the new heros are very hit and miss but I think they've had more hits then miss's looking at the last dozen or so champs.

Also neo mislabeled the darius patch thread the draven patch thread. surprised no one else has said anything the 190 odd pages so far.


I know not what you speak of.

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Dafuq? Dead men can't talk


Hai gai

On June 28 2012 08:12 Sven Stryker wrote:
What is a good counterpick to top lane Vlad these days?

Kennen
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#3776
Irelia if you know what you're doing I think.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 27 2012 23:20 GMT
#3777
Someone said in this thread Taric ultimate that powers up a Ashe Arrow lands you a assit? No point of damage there
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 27 2012 23:20 GMT
#3778
the ultra high elo secret to irelia vs ranged is Q to a dead creep, initiate with E and finish with Q, if you initiate with Q you get kited
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 23:22:39
June 27 2012 23:22 GMT
#3779
yeah I saw this trick on hotshots stream, works to double q someone who's zoned as well and q q e. You have to auto attack the ranged creep to low hp to guarantee it though.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13956 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 23:29:00
June 27 2012 23:24 GMT
#3780
jax even before level 6 pounds on him so hard. don't push the lane make it pull your way and you can zone him out and make it so that he never gets to level 9 or so.

Also get double null magic mantle when you go back. one for eventual merc treads and another for a hexdrinker on ad champs.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
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