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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 27 2012 23:39 GMT
#3781
On June 28 2012 08:20 MooMooMugi wrote:
Someone said in this thread Taric ultimate that powers up a Ashe Arrow lands you a assit? No point of damage there

thats a buff spell though. if you apply a shield/heal/buff to someone can they get a kill you get an assist.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 27 2012 23:39 GMT
#3782
Riven does OK vs him if you know what you're doing. You both have no resources, except he uses his health. Shield harass and get a lead before he gets Revolver/WotA and you're ok.

About Auras, do active auras give it? Locket and Shurelya's are actives that you need to be close enough to give, makes sense that they should give assists.
It's your boy Guzma!
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
June 27 2012 23:39 GMT
#3783
On June 28 2012 08:20 MooMooMugi wrote:
Someone said in this thread Taric ultimate that powers up a Ashe Arrow lands you a assit? No point of damage there

So does raka ult but those are actives
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 23:42:11
June 27 2012 23:40 GMT
#3784
On June 28 2012 08:17 NeoIllusions wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 08:12 Sven Stryker wrote:
What is a good counterpick to top lane Vlad these days?

Kennen

Perfect. That's what I guessed, and I zoned him and was up 30 CS and a kill on him.

...until the 4 man queue I ended up with decided to quickly surrender right at 20 minutes.
(Probably belongs in the QQ thread now.)

I'll keep Riven, Jax, and Irelia in mind, but I don't own them yet.
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
June 27 2012 23:40 GMT
#3785
LOL - 3 queue dodges in a row because I wanted to jungle with Rammus and people are like "wtf rammus so bad omg troll".

Can someone explain? Just because you don't see him on streams doesn't mean he's bad, right?
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 27 2012 23:41 GMT
#3786
ya shurely does ive tried
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 27 2012 23:42 GMT
#3787
I don't recall Taric's but true about Soraka.
So much for consistency...
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 27 2012 23:44 GMT
#3788
Yes, taric's ult does grant an assist even if it doesn't do damage
likewise, janna's shield will grant an assist if it blocks damage delivered by the dying target before it dies (i.e. your ashe is killing caitlyn, janna shields ashe while ashe's ignite ticks down on caitlyn, ashe does no more physical damage to caitlyn, caitlyn shoots ashe before she dies, the damage is blocked by janna's shield, janna gets assist)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 23:46:58
June 27 2012 23:45 GMT
#3789
Re: assists

I think you get assists if you do any damage, hit the target with any ability, or cast any ability on someone who does damage.

Edit: assuming the target dies and you do this within the time allowed to get credit, of course.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 27 2012 23:47 GMT
#3790
On June 28 2012 08:40 Sven Stryker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 08:17 NeoIllusions wrote:

On June 28 2012 08:12 Sven Stryker wrote:
What is a good counterpick to top lane Vlad these days?

Kennen

Perfect. That's what I guessed, and I zoned him and was up 30 CS and a kill on him.

...until the 4 man queue I ended up with decided to quickly surrender right at 20 minutes.
(Probably belongs in the QQ thread now.)

I'll keep Riven, Jax, and Irelia in mind, but I don't own them yet.


I said "Kennen" somewhat jokingly (in reference to TheYango).
But if you do play Top a lot, it's probably pretty important for you to learn Vlad vs Kennen, both sides. The matchup is highly dependent on the players.


On June 28 2012 08:40 little fancy wrote:
LOL - 3 queue dodges in a row because I wanted to jungle with Rammus and people are like "wtf rammus so bad omg troll".

Can someone explain? Just because you don't see him on streams doesn't mean he's bad, right?


Ramoose is just underplayed atm. He's still decent in normals.
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Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
June 27 2012 23:50 GMT
#3791
On June 28 2012 08:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
I said "Kennen" somewhat jokingly (in reference to TheYango).
But if you do play Top a lot, it's probably pretty important for you to learn Vlad vs Kennen, both sides. The matchup is highly dependent on the players.


Oh. Well, it worked anyway. Does TheYango have a specific post on it? I like reading his posts.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
June 27 2012 23:55 GMT
#3792
On June 28 2012 08:40 little fancy wrote:
LOL - 3 queue dodges in a row because I wanted to jungle with Rammus and people are like "wtf rammus so bad omg troll".

Can someone explain? Just because you don't see him on streams doesn't mean he's bad, right?

Rammus was fine after his first nerf. Then they nerfed him twice more. He's bad just like skarner is now. If you want tanky initiate that can dive and catch people you might as well play cow.

It's hard to find a champion that's underplayed but good, but it's easy to find a good champion who got nerfed to oblivion.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 00:04:52
June 27 2012 23:55 GMT
#3793
On June 28 2012 08:50 Sven Stryker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 08:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
I said "Kennen" somewhat jokingly (in reference to TheYango).
But if you do play Top a lot, it's probably pretty important for you to learn Vlad vs Kennen, both sides. The matchup is highly dependent on the players.


Oh. Well, it worked anyway. Does TheYango have a specific post on it? I like reading his posts.

It's because I've hyped the shit out of Stanley0506 as a top lane player, and his approach to Vlad and Kennen as summarized by Toyz in an interview is "pick Vlad against Kennen, pick Kennen against Vlad".
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
June 27 2012 23:57 GMT
#3794
On June 28 2012 08:40 Sven Stryker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 08:17 NeoIllusions wrote:

On June 28 2012 08:12 Sven Stryker wrote:
What is a good counterpick to top lane Vlad these days?

Kennen

Perfect. That's what I guessed, and I zoned him and was up 30 CS and a kill on him.

...until the 4 man queue I ended up with decided to quickly surrender right at 20 minutes.
(Probably belongs in the QQ thread now.)

I'll keep Riven, Jax, and Irelia in mind, but I don't own them yet.


Kennen in no way counters vlad, it's the complete opposite infact. Ken ults and vlad pools. Vlad has better lifesteal and doesn't rely on skillshot, point and click.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
June 27 2012 23:58 GMT
#3795
Rammus isn't bad.

Just don't pick him early. You want to be against a team that can't counterjungle with impunity.
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icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
June 28 2012 00:02 GMT
#3796
On June 28 2012 08:57 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 08:40 Sven Stryker wrote:
On June 28 2012 08:17 NeoIllusions wrote:

On June 28 2012 08:12 Sven Stryker wrote:
What is a good counterpick to top lane Vlad these days?

Kennen

Perfect. That's what I guessed, and I zoned him and was up 30 CS and a kill on him.

...until the 4 man queue I ended up with decided to quickly surrender right at 20 minutes.
(Probably belongs in the QQ thread now.)

I'll keep Riven, Jax, and Irelia in mind, but I don't own them yet.


Kennen in no way counters vlad, it's the complete opposite infact. Ken ults and vlad pools. Vlad has better lifesteal and doesn't rely on skillshot, point and click.



Pretty much.

As vlad I hate vsing wukong mainly and then a good lee. I hardly ever have problems with ken.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
June 28 2012 00:05 GMT
#3797
On June 28 2012 08:45 Sven Stryker wrote:
Re: assists

I think you get assists if you do any damage, hit the target with any ability, or cast any ability on someone who does damage.

Edit: assuming the target dies and you do this within the time allowed to get credit, of course.


Works with Anivia wall too but only if you actually hit the target with it (if it gets in their way, it doesn't count)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 00:07:05
June 28 2012 00:05 GMT
#3798
On June 28 2012 08:57 Zooper31 wrote:
Kennen in no way counters vlad, it's the complete opposite infact. Ken ults and vlad pools. Vlad has better lifesteal and doesn't rely on skillshot, point and click.

It's as Neo said, the matchup is heavily skill dependent for both sides, and not really lopsided either way. The outcome falls primarily on the skill and experience of the two players rather than on the advantages of one champ over the other.

The comment I highlighted essentially serves to express Stanley's confidence in winning a "fair" matchup against anyone.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 28 2012 00:06 GMT
#3799
Rammus is still good... so is Skarner, just look at Skarnold Trump he hit 2.2k with him alone
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
June 28 2012 00:26 GMT
#3800
Any other Aussies out there totally unable to access Own3d at the moment? Twitch is at its usual crappy Aussie self but Own3d is straight up refusing to load. Been like that the last couple of days and I didn't care until Xpecial and OddOne appeared on State of the Game.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
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