On June 27 2012 02:43 TheYango wrote: I will be impressed if Jayce manages to have 6 skills that are all interesting, and not just multiple skills that are plain damage.
All I want is some footage where he uses his hammer-smack to force some pussy runaway to face Cass as she ults.
I expect it to be pretty similar to this:
Now we just need that ground slam!
If you haven't played that game, do it. So much fun to be had. <3
On June 27 2012 02:36 Slusher wrote: I can do jungle if someone can do lane (for a voli thread.)
@above: I like warmogs, it's my sell wriggles item if it actually goes that long but I prefer mallet mainly because q and e are not short cds (both 10+ sec) also in a lot of situations once you have mallet you can use e to garuntee q. between wits and passive speed buff from w lifesteal is more effective than regen on Voli imo, hence why I go Wriggles.
i am considering writing something for a top-lane volibear guide-ish sort of thing (since my computer is being shipped out for repairs AGAIN). I can try to throw something together tonight and see where that takes me.
I'm thinking of running Draven top during this free week, thoughts? I'm thinking maybe a Riven type opening build of Wriggles or DBlades into BT, then going into more of a standard AD build. I think with his MS boost and harass he can thrive up there.
On June 27 2012 02:51 UniversalSnip wrote: is there something voli does that udyr doesn't do? I don't mean "be a badass bear!" or something like, serious question.
Y, voli has an Ult.
Volis ult is indeed beastly. 155 dmg chaining to 4 without diminishing dmg and pretty long leaps makes for suprisingly high damage esp in teamfights. That said personaly I think hes a bit outclassed by traditional top laners who dont fall for his passive bait, but I havnt played him since a lot of the sustain nerfs of resent patches so he might be a bit better now.
On June 27 2012 03:32 Requizen wrote: I'm thinking of running Draven top during this free week, thoughts? I'm thinking maybe a Riven type opening build of Wriggles or DBlades into BT, then going into more of a standard AD build. I think with his MS boost and harass he can thrive up there.
i just did it recently, had most success going for bruiser items. and then transitioning into IE/BT
so i got merc treads hexdrinker brutalizer phage wriggles and then IE BT.
On June 27 2012 03:32 Requizen wrote: I'm thinking of running Draven top during this free week, thoughts? I'm thinking maybe a Riven type opening build of Wriggles or DBlades into BT, then going into more of a standard AD build. I think with his MS boost and harass he can thrive up there.
i just did it recently, had most success going for bruiser items. and then transitioning into IE/BT
so i got merc treads hexdrinker brutalizer phage wriggles and then IE BT.
So you start to work on your IE after having spent 7k gold on midgame items? O.o
On June 27 2012 03:32 Requizen wrote: I'm thinking of running Draven top during this free week, thoughts? I'm thinking maybe a Riven type opening build of Wriggles or DBlades into BT, then going into more of a standard AD build. I think with his MS boost and harass he can thrive up there.
i just did it recently, had most success going for bruiser items. and then transitioning into IE/BT
so i got merc treads hexdrinker brutalizer phage wriggles and then IE BT.
Sounds a lot like how I build Lee Sin when I'm brave. Except for the late wriggled, what's the point of that?
On June 27 2012 03:32 Requizen wrote: I'm thinking of running Draven top during this free week, thoughts? I'm thinking maybe a Riven type opening build of Wriggles or DBlades into BT, then going into more of a standard AD build. I think with his MS boost and harass he can thrive up there.
i just did it recently, had most success going for bruiser items. and then transitioning into IE/BT
so i got merc treads hexdrinker brutalizer phage wriggles and then IE BT.
Sounds a lot like how I build Lee Sin when I'm brave. Except for the late wriggled, what's the point of that?
that wasn't the order in which i bought, just the items i bought in groups.
sorry i got all the mid game items, then tried for the late game AD items.
In actuality i got boots +3 then brutalize > wriggles >phage > hexdrinker > Merc
but i was laning predominantly vs physical damage characters top and very little magic was being done.
I know from playing draven a lot bot lane that if you step out of position for an instant, you are likely going to be punished and possibly killed, so i was trying to minimize that possibility by using Q to cause alot of damage over time to keep them from getting close.
On June 27 2012 03:32 Requizen wrote: I'm thinking of running Draven top during this free week, thoughts? I'm thinking maybe a Riven type opening build of Wriggles or DBlades into BT, then going into more of a standard AD build. I think with his MS boost and harass he can thrive up there.
i just did it recently, had most success going for bruiser items. and then transitioning into IE/BT
so i got merc treads hexdrinker brutalizer phage wriggles and then IE BT.
Sounds a lot like how I build Lee Sin when I'm brave. Except for the late wriggled, what's the point of that?
that wasn't the order in which i bought, just the items i bought in groups.
sorry i got all the mid game items, then tried for the late game AD items.
In actuality i got boots +3 then brutalize > wriggles >phage > hexdrinker > Merc
but i was laning predominantly vs physical damage characters top and very little magic was being done.
I know from playing draven a lot bot lane that if you step out of position for an instant, you are likely going to be punished and possibly killed, so i was trying to minimize that possibility by using Q to cause alot of damage over time to keep them from getting close.
Why are you getting hexdrinker and merc treads if you're fighting against physical dmg champs only? Gonna guess that was another typo lol.
On June 27 2012 03:32 Requizen wrote: I'm thinking of running Draven top during this free week, thoughts? I'm thinking maybe a Riven type opening build of Wriggles or DBlades into BT, then going into more of a standard AD build. I think with his MS boost and harass he can thrive up there.
Problem is that he gets ganked incredibly easily. Crushes some lanes, for instance you can kill Gangplank at lvl 2 if he's far enough from turret unless he flashes away. Situational pick, and needs your jungler's assistance because you will be overextending alot if you play him to his fullest potential. He's good in a 2v2 situation but really terrible at the 1v2s.
I also would just build pure dmg, silly building bruiser items when your goal will be to never get hit anyway and whenever you do you die, bruiser items or not.
On June 27 2012 05:06 CreationSoul wrote: not patch comming anythime soon? it feels like it's been forever.... as far as i remember they don't usually take this long...
Concerning champion patches, ive been away less than 2 months and theres already 3 (4?) new champs in the pool, its thrown me.
In the time i played i never saw more then one a month, from what i remember lol.
Somebody want to catch me up on the latest meta? Picks, bans, strongest champs in each role atm?
On June 27 2012 03:32 Requizen wrote: I'm thinking of running Draven top during this free week, thoughts? I'm thinking maybe a Riven type opening build of Wriggles or DBlades into BT, then going into more of a standard AD build. I think with his MS boost and harass he can thrive up there.
i just did it recently, had most success going for bruiser items. and then transitioning into IE/BT
so i got merc treads hexdrinker brutalizer phage wriggles and then IE BT.
Sounds a lot like how I build Lee Sin when I'm brave. Except for the late wriggled, what's the point of that?
that wasn't the order in which i bought, just the items i bought in groups.
sorry i got all the mid game items, then tried for the late game AD items.
In actuality i got boots +3 then brutalize > wriggles >phage > hexdrinker > Merc
but i was laning predominantly vs physical damage characters top and very little magic was being done.
I know from playing draven a lot bot lane that if you step out of position for an instant, you are likely going to be punished and possibly killed, so i was trying to minimize that possibility by using Q to cause alot of damage over time to keep them from getting close.
Why are you getting hexdrinker and merc treads if you're fighting against physical dmg champs only? Gonna guess that was another typo lol.
Habit mostly. and I tend to like to be well rounded defensely but that has almost nothing to do with optimal builds.
On June 27 2012 03:32 Requizen wrote: I'm thinking of running Draven top during this free week, thoughts? I'm thinking maybe a Riven type opening build of Wriggles or DBlades into BT, then going into more of a standard AD build. I think with his MS boost and harass he can thrive up there.
i just did it recently, had most success going for bruiser items. and then transitioning into IE/BT
so i got merc treads hexdrinker brutalizer phage wriggles and then IE BT.
Sounds a lot like how I build Lee Sin when I'm brave. Except for the late wriggled, what's the point of that?
that wasn't the order in which i bought, just the items i bought in groups.
sorry i got all the mid game items, then tried for the late game AD items.
In actuality i got boots +3 then brutalize > wriggles >phage > hexdrinker > Merc
but i was laning predominantly vs physical damage characters top and very little magic was being done.
I know from playing draven a lot bot lane that if you step out of position for an instant, you are likely going to be punished and possibly killed, so i was trying to minimize that possibility by using Q to cause alot of damage over time to keep them from getting close.
Sounds like a build my friend does on his Vayne and it does just as much damage as a typical IE,PD,LW does and makes you really fucking bulky
its: Dorans->Zerks->Phage->Vamp Scepter->Wits End->Hexdrinker Upgrade Phage into Frozen Mallet, Sell Dorans for Ionic Spark, Upgrade Vamp Scepter into Bloodthirster, Upgrade Hexdrinker for Maw of Mortilius, then finally sell Zerks for Mercs if they have a lot of CC. Gives you around 2.8k HP~,2.0 AS, +150 MR and is great on Vayne because all she needs is attack speed to deal damage
On June 27 2012 03:32 Requizen wrote: I'm thinking of running Draven top during this free week, thoughts? I'm thinking maybe a Riven type opening build of Wriggles or DBlades into BT, then going into more of a standard AD build. I think with his MS boost and harass he can thrive up there.
i just did it recently, had most success going for bruiser items. and then transitioning into IE/BT
so i got merc treads hexdrinker brutalizer phage wriggles and then IE BT.
Sounds a lot like how I build Lee Sin when I'm brave. Except for the late wriggled, what's the point of that?
that wasn't the order in which i bought, just the items i bought in groups.
sorry i got all the mid game items, then tried for the late game AD items.
In actuality i got boots +3 then brutalize > wriggles >phage > hexdrinker > Merc
but i was laning predominantly vs physical damage characters top and very little magic was being done.
I know from playing draven a lot bot lane that if you step out of position for an instant, you are likely going to be punished and possibly killed, so i was trying to minimize that possibility by using Q to cause alot of damage over time to keep them from getting close.
Sounds like a build my friend does on his Vayne and it does just as much damage as a typical IE,PD,LW does and makes you really fucking bulky
its: Dorans->Zerks->Phage->Vamp Scepter->Wits End->Hexdrinker Upgrade Phage into Frozen Mallet, Sell Dorans for Ionic Spark, Upgrade Vamp Scepter into Bloodthirster, Upgrade Hexdrinker for Maw of Mortilius, then finally sell Zerks for Mercs if they have a lot of CC. Gives you around 2.8k HP~,2.0 AS, +150 MR and is great on Vayne because all she needs is attack speed to deal damage
Really interested in trying this, the only thing I don't like is the ionic spark. Never been fond of that item. Any other possible alternatives to that?