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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
May 23 2012 22:13 GMT
#201
On May 24 2012 02:01 Slusher wrote:
Kinda suprised by the Morg changes, shes good, but idk I thought people had stopped complaining about her. 30%>20% is a pretty big drop, especially taking into account all her offence has pretty long cooldowns.

It's her shield that makes her incredibly obnoxious since she's never gankable. She's not OP, though.

That said, if you ever play at low elo (~1300-1400s) they think Morg and Kass are godmode auto wins and will bitch and moan all game if you don't ban or first pick them.
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
May 23 2012 22:14 GMT
#202
Wow saint already has a rough jungling guide for him.
http://www.lolpro.com/guides/darius/334-darius-guide-jungle
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 23 2012 22:14 GMT
#203
Fixed a bug where players could not spam emotes to their heart's content

yes
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
May 23 2012 22:16 GMT
#204
On May 24 2012 05:02 Ryalnos wrote:
Hmm, Darius' manacosts seem pretty low.


Part of Riot's philosophy I'd wager. All other things being equal new champs are generally better than old champs in two ways.

1) Don't have mana problems or prohibitive costing spells. For instance, new AP mids rarely require more than a couple Drings.The last champ released with mana concerns was Skarner.

2) Farm easier (even supports *cough* Lulu *cough*).
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 22:22:01
May 23 2012 22:18 GMT
#205
On May 24 2012 06:43 beefhamburger wrote:
I think just heal-baiting him and making him burn his ult is a good way to stop him. Once his ult is down, he becomes pretty mediocre in team fights and has no innate survivability. He pretty much has to build tanky items going into late game which will make his ult a lot weaker and harder to pull off with 5 stacks.


He may have to build tanky, but between his E and his True Damage he essentially has an additional item slot with which to do it. He's still going to have significant AD late game as a result.

Even if he can only afford one Bloodthirster his ult is still going to do 400 damage minimum, but in reality he's going to get to fit in other items like Maw/FM and run around with an ult that effortlessly does 1000 damage.

On May 24 2012 07:14 beefhamburger wrote:
Wow saint already has a rough jungling guide for him.
http://www.lolpro.com/guides/darius/334-darius-guide-jungle


Throwing together a rough guide for a new jungler takes 15 minutes, and most of that is writing the guide. It's going from "rough" to "refined" that takes a long time.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 23 2012 22:21 GMT
#206
I've seen Darius with a few damage items (BT bruta and the like) pretty much one shot my ad carry. There was actually nothing I could do cause his "hook" move pulls all heroes, so he pulls, spins, artery, aa, then ult, and now it's a 4 v 5 <:
Bronze player stuck in platinum
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 23 2012 22:22 GMT
#207
On May 24 2012 07:16 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 05:02 Ryalnos wrote:
Hmm, Darius' manacosts seem pretty low.


Part of Riot's philosophy I'd wager. All other things being equal new champs are generally better than old champs in two ways.

1) Don't have mana problems or prohibitive costing spells. For instance, new AP mids rarely require more than a couple Drings.The last champ released with mana concerns was Skarner.

2) Farm easier (even supports *cough* Lulu *cough*).


it's actually because morello thinks that spamming spells is more fun than not spamming spells
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
May 23 2012 22:23 GMT
#208
On May 24 2012 07:14 beefhamburger wrote:
Wow saint already has a rough jungling guide for him.
http://www.lolpro.com/guides/darius/334-darius-guide-jungle


The only really surprising thing here is AS reds over AD/arpen. I'd think you'd want as much AD as possible and a 15% AS boost isn't going to radically increase your hemo stack rate. But I'm neither Saint nor have I played Darius yet.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 23 2012 22:24 GMT
#209
On May 24 2012 07:23 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 07:14 beefhamburger wrote:
Wow saint already has a rough jungling guide for him.
http://www.lolpro.com/guides/darius/334-darius-guide-jungle


The only really surprising thing here is AS reds over AD/arpen. I'd think you'd want as much AD as possible and a 15% AS boost isn't going to radically increase your hemo stack rate. But I'm neither Saint nor have I played Darius yet.


I'm guessing he uses AS marks because he wants to clear the jungle faster early game.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 23 2012 22:25 GMT
#210
Dont understand people crying about free to play rotation in ranked, if you're playing ranked you should own most champions anyway
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22165 Posts
May 23 2012 22:29 GMT
#211
On May 24 2012 07:25 arb wrote:
Dont understand people crying about free to play rotation in ranked, if you're playing ranked you should own most champions anyway


Its mostly to stop the people who have never played a champion to play him in ranked because hes free.
While it ofc wont stop a lot of idiots from playing champions there bad at it will atleast reduce it a little bit.
Tho in return you get people who cant do role X because they never got a champion for it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 23 2012 22:30 GMT
#212
On May 24 2012 07:29 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 07:25 arb wrote:
Dont understand people crying about free to play rotation in ranked, if you're playing ranked you should own most champions anyway


Its mostly to stop the people who have never played a champion to play him in ranked because hes free.
While it ofc wont stop a lot of idiots from playing champions there bad at it will atleast reduce it a little bit.
Tho in return you get people who cant do role X because they never got a champion for it.

Yeah they're idiots for playing champs they're bad at, I just practice new champs in my dream before I want to play them, not sure why no one else does.
Normals are trash for practice.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 22:35:16
May 23 2012 22:35 GMT
#213
just played Darius, he dunks real fkhard, dear lord what were they thinking!?

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Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
May 23 2012 22:35 GMT
#214
The only real issue I can see is that it forces new thirties to either pay $ for champs or buy all the 450/1350 IP ones which rather limits your choices.

Honestly I had enough champions to play ranked the second I hit 30 without putting any money into the game so most people are probably just upset they can't cast QE on Lux at the same time while never building sheen in a ranked game.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
May 23 2012 22:39 GMT
#215
So I hear Daruis' W can crit.....
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
May 23 2012 22:40 GMT
#216
On May 24 2012 07:13 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 02:01 Slusher wrote:
Kinda suprised by the Morg changes, shes good, but idk I thought people had stopped complaining about her. 30%>20% is a pretty big drop, especially taking into account all her offence has pretty long cooldowns.

It's her shield that makes her incredibly obnoxious since she's never gankable. She's not OP, though.

That said, if you ever play at low elo (~1300-1400s) they think Morg and Kass are godmode auto wins and will bitch and moan all game if you don't ban or first pick them.


I hate her because if she really wants to, she can just make mid a farm fest by doing nothing but pooling 1-2 times. Can't force her out of lane if you go out of your way to hurt her(at least not before, maybe now though) and her ult is such a game changer.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 23 2012 22:46 GMT
#217
Of course it can crit, it makes your next autoattack enhanced just like Talon's Q
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
May 23 2012 22:50 GMT
#218
On May 24 2012 07:46 MooMooMugi wrote:
Of course it can crit, it makes your next autoattack enhanced just like Talon's Q

Except Darius' is a percentage increase (up to 200%) as opposed to Talon's which makes it so much more ridiculous.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 23 2012 22:53 GMT
#219
Well Darius is clearly balanced, thats why I beat him with Vladmir in 1400 elo!
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 23 2012 22:54 GMT
#220
On May 24 2012 07:29 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 07:25 arb wrote:
Dont understand people crying about free to play rotation in ranked, if you're playing ranked you should own most champions anyway


Its mostly to stop the people who have never played a champion to play him in ranked because hes free.
While it ofc wont stop a lot of idiots from playing champions there bad at it will atleast reduce it a little bit.
Tho in return you get people who cant do role X because they never got a champion for it.

Shouldnt be doing ranked without a reasonable amount of champions for every role though.
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