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[Patch 1.0.0.140: Darius] General Discussion - Page 12

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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
May 23 2012 22:55 GMT
#221
All this actually makes me sad because I kinda like the concept and art of darius but they're gonna end up overnerfing him.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
May 23 2012 22:58 GMT
#222
On May 24 2012 07:30 JackDino wrote:
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On May 24 2012 07:29 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 24 2012 07:25 arb wrote:
Dont understand people crying about free to play rotation in ranked, if you're playing ranked you should own most champions anyway


Its mostly to stop the people who have never played a champion to play him in ranked because hes free.
While it ofc wont stop a lot of idiots from playing champions there bad at it will atleast reduce it a little bit.
Tho in return you get people who cant do role X because they never got a champion for it.

Yeah they're idiots for playing champs they're bad at, I just practice new champs in my dream before I want to play them, not sure why no one else does.
Normals are trash for practice.


Look at it this way. If you play a champ you don't have (which could be interpreted as not good with or new to), you might ruin the game for other people who play the champs they're good with and have a decent game. It's not meant to make piss people off, it's meant to reduce the chance people have a bad game.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 23:04:59
May 23 2012 23:00 GMT
#223
You only get good at someone by playing them. I don't really understand peoples hatred for bad play. There's nothing wrong with playing badly. The issue is playing badly and not learning from it or intentionally ruining it for people. To get win you first have to lose, that's just how things are. Then what you land up with is tons of people with only a very select few heroes they can play because they are too scared of being "bad" at other ones to learn them. This mentality makes no sense.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 23:24:12
May 23 2012 23:20 GMT
#224
On May 24 2012 07:55 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
All this actually makes me sad because I kinda like the concept and art of darius but they're gonna end up overnerfing him.

they can keep the refresh thing, but they need to nerf teh damage on his ult. it's just ridiculous right now. a 1.5 AD ratio true damage ult that can do double damage and refreshes is jsut dumb.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 23:22:19
May 23 2012 23:20 GMT
#225
On May 24 2012 07:50 beefhamburger wrote:
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On May 24 2012 07:46 MooMooMugi wrote:
Of course it can crit, it makes your next autoattack enhanced just like Talon's Q

Except Darius' is a percentage increase (up to 200%) as opposed to Talon's which makes it so much more ridiculous.


According to Riot posts on the PBE forum the bonus damage from Darius' W works like Sheen and doesn't double on a crit.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=24481803#post24481803

On May 24 2012 08:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
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On May 24 2012 07:55 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
All this actually makes me sad because I kinda like the concept and art of darius but they're gonna end up overnerfing him.

they can keep the refresh thing, but they need to nerf teh damage on his ult. it's just ridiculous right now. a 1.2 AD ratio true damage ult that can do double damage and refreshes is jsut dumb.


Last I checked it was 1.5 with full Hemorrhage stacks. I'm guessing you're assuming three stacks since that's the easy, faceroll version.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21761 Posts
May 23 2012 23:26 GMT
#226
On May 24 2012 08:00 Numy wrote:
You only get good at someone by playing them. I don't really understand peoples hatred for bad play. There's nothing wrong with playing badly. The issue is playing badly and not learning from it or intentionally ruining it for people. To get win you first have to lose, that's just how things are. Then what you land up with is tons of people with only a very select few heroes they can play because they are too scared of being "bad" at other ones to learn them. This mentality makes no sense.


There is imo a big difference tho between the player who picks a free champ because he can in a ranked game and the player who buys a champion and wants to learn him. One wants to learn and the other is just winging shit.

Plus ofc anything that forces people to spend more money is good in riots eyes :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 23 2012 23:45 GMT
#227
On May 24 2012 08:00 Numy wrote:
You only get good at someone by playing them. I don't really understand peoples hatred for bad play. There's nothing wrong with playing badly. The issue is playing badly and not learning from it or intentionally ruining it for people. To get win you first have to lose, that's just how things are. Then what you land up with is tons of people with only a very select few heroes they can play because they are too scared of being "bad" at other ones to learn them. This mentality makes no sense.


I don't personally mind bad play, everyone has bad games even with champions they're good at, but I do mind stupid play.

If you've at least 1) read your champion's skill descriptions carefully and 2) taken a minute to think about what runes/masteries/items make sense on them you're fine, with bonus points for taking the champion for a quick spin in a custom, coop, or normal game first. My problem is with the people who, 15 minutes into a game, finally decide to read their ability tooltips for the first time ever and discover that maybe Udyr's Bear Stance was not what they should have been maxing first.

I'm talking about "is your shirt on right-side out" level competency, if you don't have it I don't want to play with you ever.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
May 23 2012 23:50 GMT
#228
You can go play bad in normal games. Ranked games is srs business. We don't want baddies polluting ranked with their feeding. Elo is too precious.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 23 2012 23:52 GMT
#229
On May 24 2012 08:50 0123456789 wrote:
You can go play bad in normal games. Ranked games is srs business. We don't want baddies polluting ranked with their feeding. Elo is too precious.

Can't let the stupid fat hobbit have the precious.
Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
May 23 2012 23:53 GMT
#230
On May 24 2012 08:50 0123456789 wrote:
You can go play bad in normal games. Ranked games is srs business. We don't want baddies polluting ranked with their feeding. Elo is too precious.

Yet some people do into ranked and take it like it's normals, saying normals is too full of shit and nobody is serious and they want to have fun in ranked, play it like it's a game and not care about their performance.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 23:54:41
May 23 2012 23:53 GMT
#231
Well, seeing how most people seem to play (fell to around 1150 now), yeah, I'm valuing Elo in that if I climb back to 1300, I'll see less mindboggling brainless play and more bad, which I'm more fine (? can you say "finer" for this?) with.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
May 23 2012 23:58 GMT
#232
Wow, Froggen just keeps proving that he is easily one of the best APs out there. So consistent. Beautiful, beautful play. That Kog against Navi lol.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 00:03:52
May 24 2012 00:01 GMT
#233
Regarding no free champs in solo queue Riot actually has data showing that people picking free champs in ranked tend to lose a lot more. This is hardly surprising but given they also banned level 20s from solo ranked for the same reason it's easy to see why they did it.

On May 24 2012 07:55 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
All this actually makes me sad because I kinda like the concept and art of darius but they're gonna end up overnerfing him.


This is basically me and Lulu. I haven't bought Lulu because I knew she was going to get nerfed and wanted to see all the nerfs first so that I could consider the stabilized champ.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
May 24 2012 00:10 GMT
#234
Normals are good for learning the basics of a champ or role. While it's true normals are rarely as competitive as ranked, I still average teams on both sides of ~1600. You can still easily beat most opponents just by virtue of being better than them, but there are lots of nuances you can pick up about particular things at the same time. Once you understand the champ decently, you can move on to playing them in ranked.
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Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
May 24 2012 00:10 GMT
#235
Good change, hated people doing first time champs in ranked. Why I do normals and play eve.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#236
So I just noticed from Gman's stream that if Darius is killed during his ult's animation, the damage will still proceed.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
May 24 2012 00:41 GMT
#237
On May 24 2012 09:28 Alaric wrote:
So I just noticed from Gman's stream that if Darius is killed during his ult's animation, the damage will still proceed.


Thats odd, in my experience on the pbe Darius ult gets canceled if he gets killed. Perhaps he just got killed by a cc ability
"What I'm sayin' is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know we don't know." | SC2: NoiSe.730 | LoL: Galladiator
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
May 24 2012 00:47 GMT
#238
On May 23 2012 20:12 Reuental wrote:

Show nested quote +
Dr. Mundo
Sadism now returns 40/50/60% of Mundo's health instead of 40/55/70%


Why would you do that?

pros still were using him a lot in jungle after first wave of nerfs, so werent enough?
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 00:50:07
May 24 2012 00:48 GMT
#239
Relog for a hotfix, dunno what it is though.

DL'd the hotfix but Swain is still disabled, so it's not for that
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storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
May 24 2012 00:50 GMT
#240
On May 23 2012 21:26 Apex wrote:
After watching both Jiji and Saint wreck with Darius, I'm going to say, having a true damage ult that refreshes on kill was clearly not the smartest idea. >_>

hes a pubstomp champ cause you can snowball that and theres a lot more killing going on in pubs. at pro level the ult isnt great
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