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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 08 2012 09:26 GMT
#1561
On May 08 2012 18:26 obesechicken13 wrote:
Hecarim is fun in bot games. He seems like a good ganker and a good diver/team fighter. It's strange then that he seems so weak in the jungle but I suppose that's due to me favoring movement speed and slows over combat stats, lack of wriggles, and the negative penalties on Q and W vs creeps.

Everything is fun in bot games though:p
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 09:31:28
May 08 2012 09:31 GMT
#1562
This Varrus guy feel very inspired from Windrunner. :o
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
May 08 2012 09:31 GMT
#1563
On May 08 2012 17:47 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 17:12 Parnage wrote:
Soniv pretty cool guy but I doubt he can play Lee Sin like shake(oh snap)


In all seriousness, as I say every time a new champion is released. You can't really judge him on what you read or even on what you see others do, you gotta play him often and numerous times to form a solid opinion. I have a feeling we'll have some interesting thoughts on him in a week or two but now? Too soon. Far too soon. Perhaps I am too reserved in that matter.


I can usually form an opinion based on what TL says in gd, the general reaction after they have played him, and just seeing him operate in my games, playing against him.

I have never played as lee sin, but I have a pretty good idea of how good lee sin is, very.



You can form a general opinion but what I am saying is, saying "X is terrible" is one of the most sure fire ways of ending up incorrect and formulating an opinion without actually having any data to back it up. For example, Release Talon. Release Ori. You can't gather a good sense of a champion's worth by a few pbe games and a spotlight. All I am saying.


And thanks for the ezreal answers folks.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 08 2012 09:42 GMT
#1564
Blitzcrank is retardedly OP and I think the winrate for teams with blitz is higher than teams without blitz.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 08 2012 09:47 GMT
#1565
On May 08 2012 18:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Blitzcrank is retardedly OP and I think the winrate for teams with blitz is higher than teams without blitz.

Blitzcrank+morde 100% winrate giant robot hand pull you to mordekaizer.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
May 08 2012 09:57 GMT
#1566
I seem to remember a red post or some such saying how they admit Blitz was perhaps too good then they'd like but because it all revolved around the hook it was okay. Mind you I believe this was before the nerf to some ad range move speeds. If anyone wants to dig for that feel free.

I dunno, Blitz has always been good perhaps too good and seeing him more and more is ticking me off as I end up having to play dodge the hook entire lane phase. It's most certainly annoying and tedious to deal with.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 08 2012 10:17 GMT
#1567
Blitz IS too strong.
But there are so many things that are OP in LoL, it's impossible to keep up.
At least we have enough OP champs to fill both teams with them easily. Yay.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 08 2012 10:18 GMT
#1568
Theres allways been these fases. They nerf heals or healingsupports get nerfed and people start trying out different stuff. Leona and blitz stuck and are actually pretty good. Had a nautilus top, leona bot and blitz jungle in my team (i was trist). Long since I been part of such a quick win. If an enemy was in sight, it was dead 3 seconds later.
KCCO!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 10:29:58
May 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#1569
Anivia is as good as blitz imo, good anivia makes it impossible for the enemy to stay in the jangle. 1 good wall and it's 4v5.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 11:11:04
May 08 2012 10:57 GMT
#1570
Varus is available.

Also, after looking at the champion's spotlight, I don't like his animations. His bow feels kinda awkward, and he is so hunched. It looks like they wanted him to feel spidery when he walks, or something. Piercing Arrow doesn't look too impressive to. I saw the charged Powershot from DotA 2's Windrunner, and its visual and sounds actually go greatly with how it's a charged ability dealing heavy damage at a long range. Charging a max Piercing Arrow then releasing it looked... underwhelming. :/
I'm going to see if he's in featured games, so I can obs him closer.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
May 08 2012 10:59 GMT
#1571
On May 08 2012 19:57 Alaric wrote:
Varus is available.


Confirmed and YAHOOO
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
May 08 2012 11:28 GMT
#1572
It's a little late to be saying this, but Jiji is streaming Varus at the moment. He got behind because of some silly early mistakes not relating to Varus, but seems to have stabilized.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 08 2012 11:32 GMT
#1573
On May 08 2012 19:57 Alaric wrote:
Varus is available.

Also, after looking at the champion's spotlight, I don't like his animations. His bow feels kinda awkward, and he is so hunched. It looks like they wanted him to feel spidery when he walks, or something. Piercing Arrow doesn't look too impressive to. I saw the charged Powershot from DotA 2's Windrunner, and its visual and sounds actually go greatly with how it's a charged ability dealing heavy damage at a long range. Charging a max Piercing Arrow then releasing it looked... underwhelming. :/
I'm going to see if he's in featured games, so I can obs him closer.


Hes the lovechild of quasimodo and sylvanis windrunner.
KCCO!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 08 2012 11:38 GMT
#1574
Na, Sylvana's actually impressive and her model/animation show her sleight-of-hand. Varus is just... well, I took a moment to look at him last-hitting and the thought that came was "the bow and particle remind me of that toy I had when I was 10, a transformer dude that was a purple tank, and you could make him launch plastic missiles with a pump".
It's both hilarious and sad at the same time.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11505 Posts
May 08 2012 12:17 GMT
#1575
On May 08 2012 19:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
Blitz IS too strong.
But there are so many things that are OP in LoL, it's impossible to keep up.
At least we have enough OP champs to fill both teams with them easily. Yay.


And everytime i ban him, my team starts raging "Why didn't you ban morgana/kassa/shaco/ww/shen/ahri/lee", while every single time i play against bc, my botlane loses so hard the game is over in 20 minutes. I am quite convinced that bc is a very good ban at low elo, soraka also. Botlanes just lose hard to those two, and when your botlane loses hard, it does not matter what the rest of the team does when the fed ad carry comes in and rips you a new one.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 08 2012 12:57 GMT
#1576
Whoever was asking about rumble if you're losing to rumble as lane ww who is a classic counter to him you probably just need to practice playing against rumble instead of blindly assuming that if you lost your lane you was countered as opposed to misplaying. There's an awful lot of losing lanes you can win by playing well and you should worry a lot less about picks. Picks are hugely overrated unless you're a top level player practicing playing lanes you can't or shouldn't win is very good practice for real play when you will only be ahead small fractions of the time unless you got to counterpick a weak champ.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
May 08 2012 12:57 GMT
#1577
I've played a lot of Blitz, and his ability to just get a guy gibbed is unparalleled. Even if you manage to dodge his hooks in lane, there is still going to be some dumb ass who gets hooked mid/late game. Jungle blitz is even more op cause he can actually get money to buy items. Hooking enemy buffs from behind the camp and stealing them that way is funny as hell too. I ran two games of double jungle with an amumu/blitz duo last night, Game 2 i stole doubles and red, amumu got wolves blue, and we got 3 man first blood mid lane. I went bot got vayne two kills, amumu went top and got lee sin a kill. It was pretty hilarious.
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
May 08 2012 13:09 GMT
#1578
Bleh all the featured games are ranked teams. I wish you could have a little bit more control over what you could spec. I'm not super interested in unranked or low elo featured matches
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 08 2012 13:40 GMT
#1579
Is Varus range 550 or 600? If it is 600 he might be viable.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
May 08 2012 13:40 GMT
#1580
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