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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
May 08 2012 14:49 GMT
#1601
Varus range is 575
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 08 2012 14:50 GMT
#1602
On May 08 2012 23:47 Juicyfruit wrote:
From the looks of it: very strong in lane and very strong in teamfights. Can't really ask for better.

Very strong in jangle or no buy!
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
May 08 2012 14:51 GMT
#1603
On May 08 2012 23:42 XenOmega wrote:
Is Varus good? Anyone tried him?


Varus is good and he is better if you good with skill shots. You can just build him as straight up AD that relies on AA.
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
May 08 2012 14:53 GMT
#1604
On May 08 2012 23:50 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 23:47 Juicyfruit wrote:
From the looks of it: very strong in lane and very strong in teamfights. Can't really ask for better.

Very strong in jangle or no buy!


Phreak doesn't say he can jungle, so he can't.

But if he were to, he would seem a half decent choice, I mean, he has an AoE damage slow. He reminds me a lot of WW jungle for some reason.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 08 2012 14:54 GMT
#1605
On May 08 2012 23:53 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 23:50 JackDino wrote:
On May 08 2012 23:47 Juicyfruit wrote:
From the looks of it: very strong in lane and very strong in teamfights. Can't really ask for better.

Very strong in jangle or no buy!


Phreak doesn't say he can jungle, so he can't.

But if he were to, he would seem a half decent choice, I mean, he has an AoE damage slow. He reminds me a lot of WW jungle for some reason.

Am I missing something, how does he possibly remind you of WW? XD
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
May 08 2012 14:54 GMT
#1606
He has 50% aoe slow (max rank) and immobilizing ult. AD carry that peels for himself. I can see that viable.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 15:00:29
May 08 2012 14:57 GMT
#1607
Dude he seems awesome. Anyone think that his w passive is a tad high? 3 stacks of that at max rank is 5% of your max hp so up to 15% of your max hp if you do all 3. Thats almost like vaynes passive but on steroids (tho not true dmg).

I got 2 PD on him when I was fucking around with him in a custom game lol applying those stacks too strong.

The Wiki says his ult has a 1.0 AP ratio :O. you almost don't have to build that much AD on him.
Never Knows Best.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 15:02:27
May 08 2012 15:00 GMT
#1608
On May 08 2012 23:50 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 23:47 Juicyfruit wrote:
From the looks of it: very strong in lane and very strong in teamfights. Can't really ask for better.

Very strong in jangle or no buy!



You could probably jungle Varus if you wanted. 2 AoE skills and free DPS.

On May 08 2012 23:57 Slaughter wrote:
Dude he seems awesome. Anyone think that his w passive is a tad high? 3 stacks of that at max rank is 5% of your max hp so up to 15% of your max hp if you do all 3. Thats almost like vaynes passive but on steroids (tho not true dmg).

I got 2 PD on him when I was fucking around with him in a custom game lol applying those stacks too strong.

The Wiki says his ult has a 1.0 AP ratio :O. you almost don't have to build that much AD on him.


It's balanced around the fact that you need to cast a spell to trigger the stacks.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
May 08 2012 15:02 GMT
#1609
I can see Varus working well with Sona. Double aoe root is op. Put Kat mid and it gets even scarier.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
May 08 2012 15:04 GMT
#1610
You'll probably see a lot of Varus + Taric lanes absolutely crushing.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 08 2012 15:07 GMT
#1611
On May 08 2012 23:53 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 23:50 JackDino wrote:
On May 08 2012 23:47 Juicyfruit wrote:
From the looks of it: very strong in lane and very strong in teamfights. Can't really ask for better.

Very strong in jangle or no buy!


Phreak doesn't say he can jungle, so he can't.

But if he were to, he would seem a half decent choice, I mean, he has an AoE damage slow. He reminds me a lot of WW jungle for some reason.




He can jungle, and not too bad 3:50 is pretty good. Could be not half bad with his nice long range strong slow and especially after Ult.

After 6, 1075 range 2 second snare followed by 50% slow sounds like death
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Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
May 08 2012 15:08 GMT
#1612
Even Varus + Soraka is good due to endless Q spam with the mana regen.
Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
May 08 2012 15:12 GMT
#1613
On May 09 2012 00:07 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 23:53 Praetorial wrote:
On May 08 2012 23:50 JackDino wrote:
On May 08 2012 23:47 Juicyfruit wrote:
From the looks of it: very strong in lane and very strong in teamfights. Can't really ask for better.

Very strong in jangle or no buy!


Phreak doesn't say he can jungle, so he can't.

But if he were to, he would seem a half decent choice, I mean, he has an AoE damage slow. He reminds me a lot of WW jungle for some reason.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlxcyOCVvTQ

He can jungle, and not too bad 3:50 is pretty good. Could be not half bad with his nice long range strong slow and especially after Ult.

After 6, 1075 range 2 second snare followed by 50% slow sounds like death


Just his Q out of nowhere can make him scary if he jungles, but seems way too slow MS to be able to really be viable.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
May 08 2012 15:15 GMT
#1614
So, fairly good AP ratios and a passive on W that does magic damage based on attack speed and ability hits.

Would a hybrid AP/attackspeed (teemo style) build be viable on Varus perhaps? I could see it working wonders on his 3 autos - E/Q - 3 autos - R - 3 autos - Q/E combo... thats 45% magic damage right there + the damage from abilities and AA.

Basically getting loads of mpen, CDR and attack speed to maximize W damage with added AP to buff up the other abilities.
I could see this working if his cooldowns are not horrible.
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 08 2012 15:17 GMT
#1615
the problem with varus is his look
they tried to go for badass but he just looks like a feminine pansy. i'm talking about the splash art btw idk what he looks like in game yet. hopefully not like shooting purple beams of poop out of his hands.
:)
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 08 2012 15:19 GMT
#1616
On May 09 2012 00:17 unichan wrote:
the problem with varus is his look
they tried to go for badass but he just looks like a feminine pansy. i'm talking about the splash art btw idk what he looks like in game yet. hopefully not like shooting purple beams of poop out of his hands.

Well he is ez's evil stepsister.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 08 2012 15:27 GMT
#1617
On May 09 2012 00:17 unichan wrote:
the problem with varus is his look
they tried to go for badass but he just looks like a feminine pansy. i'm talking about the splash art btw idk what he looks like in game yet. hopefully not like shooting purple beams of poop out of his hands.

Well, when the concept can basically best be described as "Male Harpy" you KNOW you are gonna have an issue.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 08 2012 15:28 GMT
#1618
On May 09 2012 00:15 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
So, fairly good AP ratios and a passive on W that does magic damage based on attack speed and ability hits.

Would a hybrid AP/attackspeed (teemo style) build be viable on Varus perhaps? I could see it working wonders on his 3 autos - E/Q - 3 autos - R - 3 autos - Q/E combo... thats 45% magic damage right there + the damage from abilities and AA.

Basically getting loads of mpen, CDR and attack speed to maximize W damage with added AP to buff up the other abilities.
I could see this working if his cooldowns are not horrible.


I messed around with something similar on the PBE. I don't know how viable it is because I'm not sure how you would progress through the build under normal circumstances. However, when you have Rageblade + Gunblade + Lich Bane + Deathcap + Void + Zerker's you can absolutely melt everything. The burst from three auto attacks + his ult is stupidly high.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 08 2012 15:29 GMT
#1619
On May 09 2012 00:27 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 00:17 unichan wrote:
the problem with varus is his look
they tried to go for badass but he just looks like a feminine pansy. i'm talking about the splash art btw idk what he looks like in game yet. hopefully not like shooting purple beams of poop out of his hands.

Well, when the concept can basically best be described as "Male Harpy" you KNOW you are gonna have an issue.

Now I can't unsee this.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 08 2012 15:38 GMT
#1620
I like how he says "I am forsaken" just like the Undead and their leader Slyvanus in WoW lol.
Never Knows Best.
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