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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
You're going to want 10% crit chance and 10% dual pen on him just like you would with kogmaw, and flat armor pen and lifesteal are good in their own respect as well. 3 points defense for 6 armor, and 1 point in utility for flash CD. | ||
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SgtSquiglz
United States668 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:51 Juicyfruit wrote: I'm kinda tempted to say 26/3/1 for varus, or at least very heavily invested in the offensive tree. You're going to want 10% crit chance and 10% dual pen on him just like you would with kogmaw, and flat armor pen and lifesteal are good in their own respect as well. 3 points defense for 6 armor, and 1 point in utility for flash CD. see i think this is kinda a trap. by the time you get to the stage of the game where you will be encountering people with MR, you will approaching the time in the game where you will just be autohitting for most of your damage on any ad carry, making investing in magical boosts a shot in the foot. im not sure you could justify 5/6 mastery points to deal like 1% more total damage in magic, if it might hurt your laning. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On May 09 2012 03:05 turdburgler wrote: see i think this is kinda a trap. by the time you get to the stage of the game where you will be encountering people with MR, you will approaching the time in the game where you will just be autohitting for most of your damage on any ad carry, making investing in magical boosts a shot in the foot. im not sure you could justify 5/6 mastery points to deal like 1% more total damage in magic, if it might hurt your laning. W is magic damage, and it scales off enemy health. 10% magic pen is going to be fairly relevant. I'm not sure how much it'll hurt your laning but I'm leaning towards not a whole lot. Edit: feel free to mathcraft this out. I'm only going based on intuitive feeling of how much I get out of any given individual points. | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:45 Requizen wrote: So for Varus, you think 21/0/9 for mana regen or 21/9/0 to get defenses to make up for lack of escape? I use utility on Ez and Corki because I oom all the time, but I feel like you can still do some damage with Varus thanks to his W DoT even without mana. I'm leaning towards the 21/0/9 idea personally. I am going to have to make a AD caster page for masteries since I want to play more Ezreal at some point. So how good is rageblade on Varus? It sounds like a really good item for him but how does it pan out? Also, what about Nashor's Tooth? Use those 2 for AS and AP and then get BT or IE. Malady would be another interesting option as well. EDIT: I played 1 custom game as him using the standard AD carry approach of PD, BT, and working on an IE, it worked well, but I want to get more out of his AP side especially since the blighted arrowed is a passive effect. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On May 09 2012 02:37 unichan wrote: haha :p i prefer blind because i dont like a 5 minute champ select... but if you really want to play varus that bad why don't you suck it up, round up some friends, and q up for blind pick! that's what i find best for trying new champs, if i do draft mode then it takes me several tries before i am able to play what i want. You volunteering? | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
also varus obviously "inspired" by carnage/venom from spiderman right? | ||
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Shifft
Canada1085 Posts
On May 09 2012 03:11 NEOtheONE wrote: I'm leaning towards the 21/0/9 idea personally. I am going to have to make a AD caster page for masteries since I want to play more Ezreal at some point. So how good is rageblade on Varus? It sounds like a really good item for him but how does it pan out? Also, what about Nashor's Tooth? Use those 2 for AS and AP and then get BT or IE. Malady would be another interesting option as well. At first glance I would assume they work similar to Kayle in that Nashor's and Rageblade give you a pretty strong midgame but by the time lategame rolls around you're wishing you had just built normal AD items instead. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On May 09 2012 03:21 Shifft wrote: At first glance I would assume they work similar to Kayle in that Nashor's and Rageblade give you a pretty strong midgame but by the time lategame rolls around you're wishing you had just built normal AD items instead. Well, I'm suggesting replacing the PD with one of these so I can still get the AS but also get some AP. EDIT: I am leaning more towards the Nashor's tooth as replacing PD, that way you get the CDR, AP, mana regen, and AS. And it's 230 gold cheaper than the PD. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On May 09 2012 03:23 NEOtheONE wrote: Well, I'm suggesting replacing the PD with one of these so I can still get the AS but also get some AP. You want the critz tho. | ||
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seanisgrand
United States1039 Posts
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
On May 09 2012 03:26 seanisgrand wrote: Is there any way to tell your client to show you different featured games? f5? | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
And that's why I'd get the IE rather than one of his recommended items. I get crit% more crit damage, AP, AS, mana regen, and CDR. So the build would be something like IE, NT, BT, defensive item specific to enemy team comp, beserkers greaves or boots related to enemy team comp, and then the last item can vary based on the enemy team. If I am face-rolling I'd consider a PD as last item, if I am dying then maybe a GA or another defensive item. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
http://www.own3d.tv/live/265342/TheGamingSeries | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Edit @chalice: the stream says he's got 27 minutes in login queue. Won't they be late? | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On May 09 2012 03:45 nosliw wrote: so can people enlighten me on what the alistar EQ combo is? I can only find WQ combo.... Idk, i'm just as confused as you because E is his heal. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On May 09 2012 03:45 nosliw wrote: so can people enlighten me on what the alistar EQ combo is? I can only find WQ combo.... Well, if you stand in the enemy creep wave, and a creep dies you heal errything with E. But because a triumphant roar just isn't enough, you slam the ground to really celebrate. | ||
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