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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 08 2012 18:48 GMT
#1661
Like someone else said, alistar's heal isn't even really worth taking unless you can pull off EQ consistently.
:3
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 08 2012 18:49 GMT
#1662
On May 09 2012 03:45 nosliw wrote:
so can people enlighten me on what the alistar EQ combo is? I can only find WQ combo....

Just a combo that allows your heal to heal for 100% on allied instead of 50%. Been around since the cow remake.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
May 08 2012 18:49 GMT
#1663
On May 09 2012 03:47 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 03:45 nosliw wrote:
so can people enlighten me on what the alistar EQ combo is? I can only find WQ combo....

Well, if you stand in the enemy creep wave, and a creep dies you heal errything with E. But because a triumphant roar just isn't enough, you slam the ground to really celebrate.


Shoot I've been doing it backwards. Slaming the creep wave to farm it and then healinging my little minions and letting them walk through me.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 08 2012 18:55 GMT
#1664
On May 09 2012 03:49 Sabin010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 03:47 JackDino wrote:
On May 09 2012 03:45 nosliw wrote:
so can people enlighten me on what the alistar EQ combo is? I can only find WQ combo....

Well, if you stand in the enemy creep wave, and a creep dies you heal errything with E. But because a triumphant roar just isn't enough, you slam the ground to really celebrate.


Shoot I've been doing it backwards. Slaming the creep wave to farm it and then healinging my little minions and letting them walk through me.

That's a good way to push as cow but not as useful as EQ combo.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 08 2012 18:56 GMT
#1665
Kinda funny to me that they decide to make cow the most mechanically difficult champ in the game with all these Q combos :/
:3
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 08 2012 18:56 GMT
#1666
On May 09 2012 03:49 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 03:45 nosliw wrote:
so can people enlighten me on what the alistar EQ combo is? I can only find WQ combo....

Just a combo that allows your heal to heal for 100% on allied instead of 50%. Been around since the cow remake.

Not sure if serious
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 19:07:11
May 08 2012 19:03 GMT
#1667
Wut do if your red and wraiths get stolen and you aren't fast enough to run to his red and take it?

*Especially when you don't know your shit been taken.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
May 08 2012 19:03 GMT
#1668
On May 09 2012 03:36 Alaric wrote:
F5 only forces the refresh that happens every 5 minutes or so if it didn't, it doesn't change the games if you press it twice.

Edit @chalice: the stream says he's got 27 minutes in login queue. Won't they be late?


yeah i was just approximating based on the 12 minute queue time listed when i posted, looks like everyone is finally in and the game will be starting now (unless everyone gets dc'ed again)
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 08 2012 19:04 GMT
#1669
i think they mean the E W combo, where you make a minion invulnerable for a sec with your heal then headbutt it into the enemy to disrupt their positioning.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 19:10:10
May 08 2012 19:06 GMT
#1670
On May 09 2012 03:49 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 03:45 nosliw wrote:
so can people enlighten me on what the alistar EQ combo is? I can only find WQ combo....

Just a combo that allows your heal to heal for 100% on allied instead of 50%. Been around since the cow remake.


The circumstances where you would want to make use of such a glitch, should it exist, are extremely limited. EQ is only mana efficient for healing if E has at least four more ranks in it than Q, which is to say practically never. That means it's something you might think to do during a skirmish or teamfight if the cooldowns aligned themselves, but not during active laning.

On May 09 2012 04:03 cascades wrote:
Wut do if your red and wraiths get stolen and you aren't fast enough to run to his red and take it?

*This implies you don't know your shit been taken.


Inform your teammates that the likelihood of you ganking early on is next to nil, farm forever. If they complain let them know that if they'd guarded entrances, warded red, or helped you invade the enemy jungle none of this would have happened.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 08 2012 19:06 GMT
#1671
On May 09 2012 04:03 cascades wrote:
Wut do if your red and wraiths get stolen and you aren't fast enough to run to his red and take it?

Cry.

Then focus on trying to farm your way back into relevance. This MIGHT mean considering taking the next blue buff that spawns over your mid so that you can catch up on exp if you still need it and use the cdr/mana to continue that process.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
May 08 2012 19:09 GMT
#1672
On May 09 2012 04:03 cascades wrote:
Wut do if your red and wraiths get stolen and you aren't fast enough to run to his red and take it?

*Especially when you don't know your shit been taken.


Tax whichever laner wasn't guarding your jungle allowing it to be invaded. Nothing I hate more than assholes sitting at towers waiting for minions to spawn.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 08 2012 19:10 GMT
#1673
On May 09 2012 04:04 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think they mean the E W combo, where you make a minion invulnerable for a sec with your heal then headbutt it into the enemy to disrupt their positioning.

My favorite way to fuck with Brand's ult
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 08 2012 19:12 GMT
#1674
On May 09 2012 02:51 Juicyfruit wrote:
I'm kinda tempted to say 26/3/1 for varus, or at least very heavily invested in the offensive tree.

You're going to want 10% crit chance and 10% dual pen on him just like you would with kogmaw, and flat armor pen and lifesteal are good in their own respect as well. 3 points defense for 6 armor, and 1 point in utility for flash CD.

10% crit damage. Not crit chance. Only worth getting if you're going to get lots of crit, so IE PD.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
May 08 2012 19:12 GMT
#1675
On May 08 2012 10:47 HazMat wrote:
Neo and Turd are talking about EQ. It's a combo that lets your E heal for 100% to allies instead of 50%.

so HazMat is just trolling right?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 08 2012 19:13 GMT
#1676
On May 09 2012 04:06 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 04:03 cascades wrote:
Wut do if your red and wraiths get stolen and you aren't fast enough to run to his red and take it?

Cry.

Then focus on trying to farm your way back into relevance. This MIGHT mean considering taking the next blue buff that spawns over your mid so that you can catch up on exp if you still need it and use the cdr/mana to continue that process.


Big emphasis on "might". Unless mid is almost completely mana independent or simply incompetent your team is better off if they have blue.

Also, if the enemy cleared out red entirely both buffs on your side should be spawning at approximately the same time. You'll want to have ward coverage to make sure you don't lose one while taking/handing off the other.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
May 08 2012 19:14 GMT
#1677
I dunno man if Master Shake says it, it must be true.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 19:19:51
May 08 2012 19:14 GMT
#1678
Alex destroying people as Varus, yikes. 3/0/3 at eight and a half minutes; did an AP-style head bot at six to get a double kill under the enemy's tower as well as TP-ganking bot at around four minutes.

Spectator mode has spoiled me for watching streams, keep trying to click around the screen, heh.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
May 08 2012 19:20 GMT
#1679
On May 09 2012 04:12 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 02:51 Juicyfruit wrote:
I'm kinda tempted to say 26/3/1 for varus, or at least very heavily invested in the offensive tree.

You're going to want 10% crit chance and 10% dual pen on him just like you would with kogmaw, and flat armor pen and lifesteal are good in their own respect as well. 3 points defense for 6 armor, and 1 point in utility for flash CD.

10% crit damage. Not crit chance. Only worth getting if you're going to get lots of crit, so IE PD.


That's what I meant :x I have the feeling that the standard critfinity build is still going to be king on Varus so that's what I'd try first.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 08 2012 19:24 GMT
#1680
On May 09 2012 04:12 nosliw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 10:47 HazMat wrote:
Neo and Turd are talking about EQ. It's a combo that lets your E heal for 100% to allies instead of 50%.

so HazMat is just trolling right?

I'm a little slow on the uptake and still not sure exactly what this means after it's been stated several times. What are the mechanics behind the combo that make it 100% for allies. Just a glitch/bug?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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