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Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
May 07 2012 18:09 GMT
#1381
I suggest Ahri
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#1382
On May 08 2012 03:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 02:58 Mogwai wrote:
On May 08 2012 02:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
Ryze would LOVE sages ring.

No he wouldn't. No one would even like sage's ring when it only cost like 10 gold less than a tear of the goddess and the only item still in the game that it built into is Glacial Shroud.

I dunno about that. It would be an instant damage boost, very unlike tear. Why go tear when you dont even need to charge?

You only need 33 spell casts to even out with Sage's Ring on Tear. Also Tear builds into useful items and also just outscales it after like 2 minutes.

Sage's Ring gave 500 mana for 975 gold
Sapphire Crystal gives 200 mana for 400 gold.

The mana efficiency of Sage's Ring vs. Sapphire is just .05 mana/gold, which is not enough to make up for the fact that Sapphires build into all sorts of useful shit while Sage's Rings built in just Glacial Shroud (and Zhonya's Ring, which is no longer in the game). If skipping Tear for upfront mana were actually worth it, people would just build like 3 sapphires to start with, then do Tear + Catalyst + Glacial. But getting tear early is preferable and that wouldn't change by making it more slot efficient.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 18:14:50
May 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#1383
On May 08 2012 03:10 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 03:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
On May 08 2012 02:58 Mogwai wrote:
On May 08 2012 02:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
Ryze would LOVE sages ring.

No he wouldn't. No one would even like sage's ring when it only cost like 10 gold less than a tear of the goddess and the only item still in the game that it built into is Glacial Shroud.

I dunno about that. It would be an instant damage boost, very unlike tear. Why go tear when you dont even need to charge?

You only need 33 spell casts to even out with Sage's Ring on Tear. Also Tear builds into useful items and also just outscales it after like 2 minutes.

Sage's Ring gave 500 mana for 975 gold
Sapphire Crystal gives 200 mana for 400 gold.

The mana efficiency of Sage's Ring vs. Sapphire is just .05 mana/gold, which is not enough to make up for the fact that Sapphires build into all sorts of useful shit while Sage's Rings built in just Glacial Shroud (and Zhonya's Ring, which is no longer in the game). If skipping Tear for upfront mana were actually worth it, people would just build like 3 sapphires to start with, then do Tear + Catalyst + Glacial. But getting tear early is preferable and that wouldn't change by making it more slot efficient.

Yar I forgot that Tear started with mana innately. Happens. Sometimes I get so focused on one aspect of an item I forget the other stats they give.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
May 07 2012 18:23 GMT
#1384
On May 08 2012 03:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On May 08 2012 02:58 epoc wrote:
What are some good ap mids out of the 6300 ip ones? I already got cass.


VIIIKTOOOOR

thought this was a secret
BW -> League -> CSGO
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 18:28:49
May 07 2012 18:28 GMT
#1385
I've been trying to be good at Viktor but I'm still #1 baddy with him T_T

I laned vs a cass today and got my ass so thoroughly handed to me I couldn't sit down afterward
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 07 2012 18:29 GMT
#1386
you'll play better standing up anyway, keeps you alert.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 07 2012 18:34 GMT
#1387
Yeah but if you're bending over your keyboard to play you open yourself to...."surprise attacks."
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 07 2012 18:36 GMT
#1388
On May 08 2012 03:07 MooMooMugi wrote:
Kennen/Malz/Fizz pretty good for 6300s


I'm pretty convinced AD malz is more effective and fun than AP mid malz nowadays. :D
:3
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 18:47:28
May 07 2012 18:47 GMT
#1389
Free champion rotation for next week: http://leagueoflegends.co.kr/News/update_view.php?idx=49707
Leona
Malphite
Vladimir
Annie
Olaf
Warwick
Caitlyn
Kayle
Talon
Twisted Fate
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 18:57:35
May 07 2012 18:52 GMT
#1390
On May 08 2012 03:47 Xacez wrote:
Free champion rotation for next week: http://leagueoflegends.co.kr/News/update_view.php?idx=49707
Leona
Malphite
Vladimir
Annie
Olaf
Warwick
Caitlyn
Kayle
Talon
Twisted Fate

WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE LEE SIN FREE WEEK?!??!
seriously I have been waiting to try him out (I've never played as him) for like, 6 months and he hasn't been free. I want to know if he is worth the buy.

at least I'll be able to fool around with olaf and vlad, I haven't played those champs very much

Edit: I just looked up how often he is free, and he has only been free once since september 20th
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
May 07 2012 18:53 GMT
#1391
On May 08 2012 03:52 ishboh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 03:47 Xacez wrote:
Free champion rotation for next week: http://leagueoflegends.co.kr/News/update_view.php?idx=49707
Leona
Malphite
Vladimir
Annie
Olaf
Warwick
Caitlyn
Kayle
Talon
Twisted Fate

WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE LEE SIN FREE WEEK?!??!
seriously I have been waiting to try him out (I've never played as him) for like, 6 months and he hasn't been free. I want to know if he is worth the buy.

at least I'll be able to fool around with olaf and vlad, I haven't played those champs very much


He is worth the buy.
=O
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
May 07 2012 19:00 GMT
#1392
On May 08 2012 03:07 MooMooMugi wrote:
Kennen/Malz/Fizz pretty good for 6300s


Kennen and Malz are both 4800 now, which is nice.

As for the 6300 I would also suggest Ahri.
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 19:03:52
May 07 2012 19:01 GMT
#1393
On May 08 2012 03:36 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 03:07 MooMooMugi wrote:
Kennen/Malz/Fizz pretty good for 6300s


I'm pretty convinced AD malz is more effective and fun than AP mid malz nowadays. :D

malz is one of my favorite champs, extremely well designed imo. his flexibility is amazing. i played a bunch of games ad when i first got malz, and have recently gone back to play ap and the pet is still really useful ap. if you are good at controlling them, ap is ez mode.

as for effectiveness i think ad scales harder, but ap is useful for a larger part of the game. either way you will be an amazing farmer.

On May 08 2012 03:53 Shifft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 03:52 ishboh wrote:
On May 08 2012 03:47 Xacez wrote:
Free champion rotation for next week: http://leagueoflegends.co.kr/News/update_view.php?idx=49707
Leona
Malphite
Vladimir
Annie
Olaf
Warwick
Caitlyn
Kayle
Talon
Twisted Fate

WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE LEE SIN FREE WEEK?!??!
seriously I have been waiting to try him out (I've never played as him) for like, 6 months and he hasn't been free. I want to know if he is worth the buy.

at least I'll be able to fool around with olaf and vlad, I haven't played those champs very much


He is worth the buy.


2nd. one of the most unique champs in the game.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 07 2012 19:05 GMT
#1394
Olaf is going to be free 2 play? guess i'll have to ban him for one week and let my Brolaf skin rest for a while :D time to try some vladimir, wanted to buy him yesterday but decided against it, so I can try him this week, nice!
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
May 07 2012 19:05 GMT
#1395
I still want to try before I buy, and I am broke as fuck IP-wise
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 07 2012 19:08 GMT
#1396
On May 08 2012 03:52 ishboh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 03:47 Xacez wrote:
Free champion rotation for next week: http://leagueoflegends.co.kr/News/update_view.php?idx=49707
Leona
Malphite
Vladimir
Annie
Olaf
Warwick
Caitlyn
Kayle
Talon
Twisted Fate

WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE LEE SIN FREE WEEK?!??!
seriously I have been waiting to try him out (I've never played as him) for like, 6 months and he hasn't been free. I want to know if he is worth the buy.

at least I'll be able to fool around with olaf and vlad, I haven't played those champs very much

Edit: I just looked up how often he is free, and he has only been free once since september 20th

Hopefully never, such a stupid champ with such a stupid kit. Riot #1 kit design.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 19:36:27
May 07 2012 19:20 GMT
#1397
On May 08 2012 04:08 JackDino wrote:
Hopefully never, such a stupid champ with such a stupid kit. Riot #1 kit design.

I've said this since before he was nerfed: the only regrettable thing about Lee Sin's design is that every other champ isn't as awesome as he is.
Moderator
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6221 Posts
May 07 2012 19:23 GMT
#1398
On May 08 2012 02:58 epoc wrote:
What are some good ap mids out of the 6300 ip ones? I already got cass.


In Froggen's AMA a while back the 5 mids he said that one HAD to know were galio, ahri, kennen, morgana and ryze. Ahri would be my recommendation, you have power, mobility would be a good addition to your roster.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 19:27:04
May 07 2012 19:24 GMT
#1399
i'm with yango, lee sin is the most baller champ riot has ever released. So entertaining and so much nuance in such simple abilities. Edit: ok yango edited in one of his balance essays, i have to say if lee sin w at it's strongest wasn't unhealthy for the game i don't know what is.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 19:36:43
May 07 2012 19:29 GMT
#1400
EDIT: Removed, because realistically this discussion won't go anywhere fast.
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