EPTI might even give Rumble a try in the future, and Kennen is free this week
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Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
I might even give Rumble a try in the future, and Kennen is free this week | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On May 15 2012 04:12 Roffles wrote: That's real harsh. What if my internet dies for a mini spurt? While I ruined the game for my teammates, I didn't intentionally do it. That's gotta count for something right? And to the guy above me, Irelia was picked in just about every other tourney match up until a month ago (whenever that W got nerfed). Definitely viable, still pretty beastly late game, just has a slightly harder time gettin there. It's not just a matter of punishing people-- those with unstable/iffy internet connections should be discouraged from playing ranked as well. Intentional or not, that leave did almost definitely lose a game for four other people in a queue where the entire point is to win. Not able to play all day is way to harsh, though-- I think ideally people with leaves would 'banned' from ranked until they had played 1-3 normals to completion without disconnecting or something. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On May 15 2012 05:06 Eiii wrote: It's not just a matter of punishing people-- those with unstable/iffy internet connections should be discouraged from playing ranked as well. Intentional or not, that leave did almost definitely lose a game for four other people in a queue where the entire point is to win. Not able to play all day is way to harsh, though-- I think ideally people with leaves would 'banned' from ranked until they had played 1-3 normals to completion without disconnecting or something. I'm not following, if your internet is consistently unstable, I'm pretty sure the system already uses "leaver buster" to figure that out. There is a point/percentage of games that is too much, and it's already set in place. (I'm sure its a calculated # and not just, oh you left Eii's game alright your out) Your additional punishment seems kind of over the top of that, and also discourages people from actually playing the game not just ranked, a lot of dcs are out of your control. I find normals boring for instance if I'm not playing with my friends,where ranked que is fun for me by myself. That's gonna stop me from playing for the rest of the day if my internet bugs out. Realize that internet is often out of your control, there are also computer problems that can occur, and problems on Riots side. Also, I have left 1-2 games before for important matters that have come up, don't put it out of the realm of possibility. | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On May 15 2012 05:23 unichan wrote: or you could do leaver queue are you referring to something like Dota 2s current system? | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
On May 15 2012 05:24 BlueBird. wrote: are you referring to something like Dota 2s current system? yeah even better would be if we had one exclusively for queue dodgers, and we didnt tell them that we put them in that queue, that would be so funny | ||
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emraaa
Germany505 Posts
On May 15 2012 04:50 Dark_Chill wrote: Aren't there differences for people who got disconnected and people who left. Like I remember the announcements "a summoner has disconnected" and "a summoner has left the game" or something like that. (In case you were wondering, the leaver was on the other team in my case) pull the plug !!!111 | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On May 15 2012 05:22 BlueBird. wrote: I'm not following, if your internet is consistently unstable, I'm pretty sure the system already uses "leaver buster" to figure that out. There is a point/percentage of games that is too much, and it's already set in place. (I'm sure its a calculated # and not just, oh you left Eii's game alright your out) Your additional punishment seems kind of over the top of that, and also discourages people from actually playing the game not just ranked, a lot of dcs are out of your control. I find normals boring for instance if I'm not playing with my friends,where ranked que is fun for me by myself. That's gonna stop me from playing for the rest of the day if my internet bugs out. Realize that internet is often out of your control, there are also computer problems that can occur, and problems on Riots side. Also, I have left 1-2 games before for important matters that have come up, don't put it out of the realm of possibility. Yeah, that's a good point, I completely forgot about the leaver buster thing just because I never hear about it. Either that's a good thing because it means that that system is silently working perfectly or that's bad because it means that leaverbuster isn't doing anything at all! Leaving games because of important matters is perfectly acceptable, but it ruins the game for everyone else regardless of how good your excuse is-- you'd have to balance the ingame deterrent vs the very important thing you have to do and decide which is more important. Hopefully it'd be a pretty easy decision. Riot can (and has) detected issues on their side and hit 'the button' to kind of shut ranked play down. They could easily make the deterrent system work in a similar fashion. And a dota2-style leaver queue thing wouldn't work in ranked as far as I can tell because keeping your elo accurate in ranked depends on the assumption that every player is playing with the same pool of players around their skill level. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
On May 15 2012 05:31 Frolossus wrote: is the tsm tournament going on right now a restream of the weekend or is it a new match? Its a rerun of what happen about 1hr ago | ||
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Gahlo
United States35145 Posts
On May 15 2012 05:23 unichan wrote: or you could do leaver queue Lyte talked about something similar to this when somebody suggested a repeatedly banned people queue, dubbing it "Prisoner's Island". It only enforces bad players to make alt accounts to screw with other people. Their friends that they want to introduce the game to get screwed over by queuing with them by jumping into the cesspool. If your connection is garbage at the time, please don't play ranked. Yeah, it sucks that you can't enjoy a game all that well because your internet is acting up, but it's even worse for people who's internet is fine and have to deal with the 20min time limit. =\ | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On May 15 2012 04:07 Nightmare-br wrote: Hey guys, I'm pretty new to LoL, started playing maybe a month or so ago, and I would like to ask your opinion about Irelia. I only bought Riven so far, and I love her! She is so fun! And I'm wondering what champion to buy next. I looked through some threads in the LoL forum, and a lot of them said that Irelia was overly nerfed, and she may be UP. Is this true or is she viable? Do people play her in tournaments? If you are from Brazil you should consider Mordekaizer and he is free this week to boot! | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On May 15 2012 04:56 Yttrasil wrote: Wow, seriously! That list is total bullcrap, almost all characters are sick annoying and can be total hell in solo Q. Morde, Shen, Cassio, Shyvana and Nautilus all of them are sick sick annoying to deal with in every way. Luckily Diablo 3 is coming out so I can take a week off during the rise of hell. boss mode free week, gonna test out morde jungle. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 15 2012 06:01 Gahlo wrote: Lyte talked about something similar to this when somebody suggested a repeatedly banned people queue, dubbing it "Prisoner's Island". It only enforces bad players to make alt accounts to screw with other people. Their friends that they want to introduce the game to get screwed over by queuing with them by jumping into the cesspool. Then just enforce leaver queue based both on IP and on account so you can't just log on a smurf to get out of leaver queue. Obviously you could log onto a smurf through a proxy still, but the increased effort required would still act as an effective deterrent. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
thanks. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
Lyte also mentioned that putting toxic players with toxic players is actually really bad cause it causes a ton more toxicity, he went into depth on a few posts about how that's not their goal. So I don't see it happening I can see myself getting DCD or something happening, getting put in leaver que, then just dreading ever dcing ever again, to the point where I might not want to play, If the leaver buster system works(I am assuming it does, I don't know the numbers but I know that ranked games for me dont have many rage quits/leavers, I remember back when I first started LoL pre-ranked games and there were a TON of leavers etc, even in start of season 1, so its really improved in my eyes), I don't see why we need more precautions. You guys are noticing the games where it happens, or maybe for some reason variance is playing a mean trick on you. The vast majority of ranked games Ive played have not had leavers, and dcers usually come back fairly quickly(within a minute, and the time of DC makes a big difference if it had an impact or not, Ive had several games 4v5 where someone DC and we were ahead and they concede before they realize it, but Ive had several lvl 1s not connect and they are so far behind when they get back and totally ruined the game). | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On May 15 2012 06:37 turdburgler wrote: boss mode free week, gonna test out morde jungle. Being honest, it's bad. Try Garen jungle if wanting no mana jungler. | ||
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Shifft
Canada1085 Posts
On May 15 2012 07:08 Praetorial wrote: Being honest, it's bad. Try Garen jungle if wanting no mana jungler. You meant Riven right? | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
Morde is much better than Garen as a jungler. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On May 15 2012 07:08 Praetorial wrote: Being honest, it's bad. Try Garen jungle if wanting no mana jungler. .....that's horrible. If you want a non mana jungler, shyv is one of the best junglers atm and she is even free this week too. o.e | ||
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