Hello there, this is DontMashMe or MashMe and I play AD carry for Choppa In Da Car and was the sub for Epik Gamer at IPL4. As many of you may know, I am possibly going to Korea to play for a team. This has been leaked by I Will Dominate on SOTL and most of the EPIK streams. That is one of the reasons why I cannot play for EPIK permanently, I told them I am willing to sub for EG for IPL4 because they are no available AD carrys out there.
Before I give out the story I need to give out some background information for everything to make a bit more sense.
mkz = mid king
Back when I left Curse, I was ready to join complexity with nubbypoohbear, RicePanda, and I Will Dominate. The only thing we needed now was a support player. At this time it was the beginning of Season Two. I went through my friends list because I am the AD carry and I am the one that should be choosing the support that pars with me the best and there I saw Patoy at the 1900 ELO mark already, gained within 2 weeks. I had Patoy added from a troll game I played with him previously where I was bravery Tristana AD bot lane with him playing Alistar (we ended up winning and I went close to 20-5). He just sat around in my friends list for quite a while until I saw his status change to “Support looking for team”. I simply asked him to join me and he agreed. As the rough times and good times passed, me and Patoy have stuck with each other for almost half a year now. With all of our hard work, we have never mentioned ditching each other. Even when I get team offers and he got team offers, it was either pick both of us up, or GTFO. I am a ride or die person. There have only been 5 people in my life that are ride or die with me and one of those people are Patoy.
Playing with Patoy made me realize how important a good support is. When I was on Curse, I did not have the exact same experience when playing on that team. My standards were so low that I could deal playing with any support in the game and did not care. After playing Patoy for so long, I have understood the true meaning of having a good support and how beastly and unappreciated a support is. I may sound really ****ing biased, but I hands down think Patoy is a Top 5 Support WORLD and I do have valid back up and reasoning, but this is not the point I am trying to make.
The whole Korea story with me and Patoy all started at by Patoy telling me that he is possibly going to play in Korea. I was surprised and happy for him because Patoy definitely deserves the best. I asked him who you are going to play for and he responded “Mid King”. Mid King was true platinum on the NA server and is currently a top 5 AP Carry. I have played with Mid King around the 1800 Elo bracket when I was first climbing up. Him and I actually duo queued 5 games before and we won all of them (This was when Malphite was god mode). I did not know Mid King that much compared to Patoy, but me and Mid King still know each other pretty well.
I asked Patoy in a joking manner if I could join him on his quest to Korea and Patoy said he would ask. The next few days I get a reply saying it is actually possible and there was a high chance of this happening. I have talked to Mid King quite a lot and we discussed how successful this can be for all of us as a whole. Ever since Patoy has brought this up around the February date, I have never stopped thinking about it. Playing video games as a career and making a living. Going to Korea is probably the best choice I can ever have after high school. Recently a few days ago, Patoy told me that Mid King has to go to the army as it is mandatory for all Korean Males to do their part. Mid King simply settled with pub teams while waiting for me and Patoy to come over which is in approximately 2 months so that we can graduate. There were no results and his parents got mad and told him you have 1 week to do something or else it is the army.
Me and Patoy have talked for almost 3 hours last night deciding what our plans are. Although university is important, this is a once in a life time opportunity for me that I know I will regret for the rest of my life if I were to let my dream slip by without fighting for it. That was the same feeling for him too when this opportunity popped up. I did not even sleep last night because when something you have always wanted or dreamed of is about to break apart, it ****ing hurts.
This is something Patoy said during on Skype conversation.
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All of this is not for the money or fame, even though we do need a gaming house to stay in. This is just us playing together as a team and reuniting together to try our best to reach our dreams. Ride or die. Patoy and Midking deserve the best and Mid King is forced to do something he does not want to do. After the day Patoy told me that he is probably not going to play with us and probably going to the army, I asked myself, why am I doing nothing to help? We were talking about the whole situation on how we still have school for 2 more months of school left before we could pursue esports. The only thing I can honestly do to show how much this means to me and make a post to help bring light to this situation.
What I am asking for from the league of legends and esports community is to help me, Patoy, and mostly Mid King achieve our goals of competing and training in Korea. All I ask is to simply view this thread, upvote, bump it, and keep it alive. My plan is to simply to get as many views and up votes as possible so that we can show MKZ's parents how much esports means to us. I would hope that either MKZ or fellow Koreans can help describe our situation to Mid King's parents so they would allow us this opportunity to pursue esports.
UPDATE: I have recently spoke with Mid King. As I mentioned before he is on a team because he was pressured by his parents with a team or the army choice. But now his parents said if he is not in a gaming house, then its the army. He has viewed this thread and he was amazed by how much the league of legends community supported us, but did not fully understand everything since English is his second language. If a fellow korean translator could help us explain everything we would greatly appreciate it.
These are the options that we probably going to go for.
1. Mid King will get me and Patoy on the same team as him. If a player does not preform well or meet the needs, it is generally a kick. Not sure what team he is on. 2. Me and Patoy with our connections will try to find a sponsor in Korea to help out with our situation. 3. Mid King will keep trying to find a good sponsor.
TL;DR: - There is possibly no more Korea for me and Patoy, we need the communities help! - We both hate school and Korea is an opportunity - I don't want to lose it. - Patoy is the main reason why Mid King is not in the army - Me and Patoy are almost done high school in 2 monthsish. - What we would like is to have someone in korean esports or a korean translator be able to express to MK's parents how important this is for us and that its not just a hobby or past time.
I think your thread was already linked to in the Lulu patch thread, but it's nice to see it again to raise more awareness. Hope everything turns out well for you guys.
I've seen what is being said; i'll relay this to some influential people in the esports community; hopefully they can relay some sort of message to mid king's parents! I saw him on ogn champs: spring; He plays really really well that would be a waste of talent for him to goto the army so soon =X
i would assume all the good Korean players are already on teams so then even if mid king can avoid army, you'd most likely have to import two other players? If so then the most rational thing to do would seem like to find the rest of your team first and if mid king has to leave, you'd be left with empty roster spot instead of two guys looking for a team in a foreign country.
On April 19 2012 18:31 Chrispy wrote: Dontmashme is da #1 trundle jungle in da world, can even win 4v5's.
Send this man to Korea!
What tourmament did he do this in. Usually i only see him play ad carries and do things like surge heal trist. Gl mashme in korea. The competition there will be very fierce.
On April 19 2012 18:31 Chrispy wrote: Dontmashme is da #1 trundle jungle in da world, can even win 4v5's.
Send this man to Korea!
What tourmament did he do this in. Usually i only see him play ad carries and do things like surge heal trist. Gl mashme in korea. The competition there will be very fierce.
it wasn't a tournament it was an epic old-skool 5v5
I remember reading this a while ago on some random other forum.
I don't think this guy really knows much about Korea or the lifestyle of a progamer. Unless he gets a very rich sponsor. Living in Korea is going to be hell for him.
Renting a apartment is expensive in Korea, at least one big enough to fit 5 people. even if lets say you decide to all rent goshiwons. You are looking at almost 1mil won a month, that doesn't include food or anything else.
Even in the prime house. We have over 10 people here and most sleep on the floor. And thats a team with sponsors and championships to its name. This guy is coming to Korea, not knowing the language, not having a sponsor, or any amount of income. and is coming on a whim. This doesn't look well planned nor do I think it would end well. It'll end with a lot of problems and a lot of pain will come from it. I fear for this guy. I got extremely lucky and I had worked on coming to Korea for over a year before I was able to come here. It looks a lot of work, you just don't find sponsors for a unformed team in Korea. Even teams like ZeNEX can't find sponsors and are on their last legs because of a lack of funds. I can tell you planty of stories of people who try to make a team and be sucessful and end up living on nothing, and not having enough money to pay their rent because of lack of sponsors.
If you can't find sponsors as a NA team, you won't as a KR team, simple as that. I got lucky. I know a few progamers in Korea who don't make money. actually almost no progamer does. Everyone here thinks I'm rich man because I am able to buy the team ice cream once a month with the only money I have left over after having to live.
So if you are fine with sleeping on the floor, having to live off of almost nothing, having to spend more time begging sponsors for money instead of playing the game. Having to worry about having enough money to buy food for tomorrow. Then feel free to come to Korea.
and to say that I don't know how it will go, I know this is what will happen. Sponsors just don't hand money over to a unknown team that lives in Korea, no sponsor is that stupid. Even really good teams like ZeNEX have to post threads on TL to try and find sponsors. Its not easy, its a hard you don't know how much work is involved in keeping a team together. Nevermind if you like privacy, just throw that out the window now, cause you'll have none. The only privacy you will get is in the bathroom while you are using it.
Also about the parents. Korean parents don't care what some random people say on the internet. Korean parents are very very different than western parents. Many Korean parents disown their children if the child does something that the parents don't like. If midking doesn't listen tohis parents, he could be disowned. and I don't think that is a risk he is willing to take to be honest.
Just saying, if you want to follow your dreams, don't let me stop you, but don't think it'll be as easy as you think it will be, its hard, harder than most jobs.
Have you tried talking to Nazgul? I'm not sure if he has plans to go for League of Legends, but one can always try. If you have any contacts with SK Gaming, try talking to Min Sik Ko - he is the go-to guy for Korea-World relations in the e-Sports industry, and have pretty good connections in Korea. You can recognize him as the translator for all the koreans in IEM.
I'll try to talk to some people I know if they have any contacts for you in Korea, or try to get some sponsorships up.
Also, good luck for you, Patoy and MidKing. e-Sports is very difficult to enter, as I'm trying to join the industry as well (as an e-Sports coordinator, though. I don't have mad skillz to play).
On April 20 2012 21:31 necrosed wrote: Have you tried talking to Nazgul? I'm not sure if he has plans to go for League of Legends, but one can always try. If you have any contacts with SK Gaming, try talking to Min Sik Ko - he is the go-to guy for Korea-World relations in the e-Sports industry, and have pretty good connections in Korea. You can recognize him as the translator for all the koreans in IEM.
I'll try to talk to some people I know if they have any contacts for you in Korea, or try to get some sponsorships up.
Also, good luck for you, Patoy and MidKing. e-Sports is very difficult to enter, as I'm trying to join the industry as well (as an e-Sports coordinator, though. I don't have mad skillz to play).
One of the problems you seem to be experiencing is that your communication does not have any professionalism. It reads like a teenager wrote it (which, of course, one did).
Sponsors like heart, yeah, that's good, but they're paying real dollars to have you play for them. You would have to show some level of professionalism to get into a gaming house, that you have the drive, willpower, determination, and resilience to show that you can do this as a job. Using the phrase "ride or die" doesn't help your case.
How many hours/day and days/week will you commit to? Are there penalties for not playing these hours? What sort of goals do you have? How will you achieve these goals?
Think of marketing yourself as a business, and not as a skilled gaming enthusiast. What can you offer me, as a sponsor? I'm not going to put up money so that some random kid can play games. Do you have a large stream audience? Have you won any tournaments? Think about all of your achievements, make a resume and a proposal. THEN try involving the big dogs like professional teams.
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