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[Patch 1.0.0.138: Hecarim] General Discussion - Page 70

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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 20:18:14
April 23 2012 20:17 GMT
#1381
On April 24 2012 05:09 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:02 Redox wrote:
On April 24 2012 04:57 Numy wrote:
On April 24 2012 04:42 Lylat wrote:
CLG.eu 1-0 TeamLess, really close game


Stream?

http://de.twitch.tv/kaostv

It is the Corsair vengeance cup.


Thanks man, is there any site that has like a TL calender for LoL?


Tournament Calendar
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
April 23 2012 20:19 GMT
#1382
On April 24 2012 05:07 Roffles wrote:
Fuck Shaco. Everytime he's on my team, he blows. Every time he's on enemy team, hr goes legendary.


Story of my life.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 20:23:34
April 23 2012 20:23 GMT
#1383
On April 24 2012 05:19 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:07 Roffles wrote:
Fuck Shaco. Everytime he's on my team, he blows. Every time he's on enemy team, hr goes legendary.


Story of my life.

Just counterpick with malphite and counterjungle the shaco. Tons of armour, shaco dont do no damage.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 23 2012 20:24 GMT
#1384
On April 24 2012 05:23 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:19 Cloud9157 wrote:
On April 24 2012 05:07 Roffles wrote:
Fuck Shaco. Everytime he's on my team, he blows. Every time he's on enemy team, hr goes legendary.


Story of my life.

Just counterpick with malphite and counterjungle the shaco. Tons of armour, shaco dont do no damage.


And then you realize while you're farming his jungle, he's farming your teammates.....
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 20:29:12
April 23 2012 20:27 GMT
#1385
Mid: I must farm the creeps!

Shaco: No Mid, you are the farm.

And then Mid was worth 25 gold.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 23 2012 20:30 GMT
#1386
On April 24 2012 05:24 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 05:23 JackDino wrote:
On April 24 2012 05:19 Cloud9157 wrote:
On April 24 2012 05:07 Roffles wrote:
Fuck Shaco. Everytime he's on my team, he blows. Every time he's on enemy team, hr goes legendary.


Story of my life.

Just counterpick with malphite and counterjungle the shaco. Tons of armour, shaco dont do no damage.


And then you realize while you're farming his jungle, he's farming your teammates.....

I'm more annoyed by the fact that I can't walk in my own jungle properly than my mid feeding. I usually get lucky and it's only 1 lane feeding and not all 3 though.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 20:41:43
April 23 2012 20:31 GMT
#1387
Not letting Shaco get his red is the best possible strategy you can employ against him as a jungler. Without red, it'll be very hard for him to kill any lane that has flash up, and if he does successfully make a lane blow flash, you'll need to be ready to countergank ASAP.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 23 2012 20:33 GMT
#1388
On April 24 2012 04:49 Juicyfruit wrote:
I hate every single one of those champions, wow.


Yeah it's possible for all of them to be blitz hooked. :3
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 23 2012 20:37 GMT
#1389
On April 24 2012 05:33 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 04:49 Juicyfruit wrote:
I hate every single one of those champions, wow.


Yeah it's possible for all of them to be blitz hooked. :3

I liked the game more when you could hook wards. So many things to be done with wards.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
April 23 2012 20:54 GMT
#1390
Someone who knows the detail better than me should update this, maybe. Our boy could use some love.

Actually, the whole thing could use some attention - unfortunately, I don't really know any of the details from older tournaments (ie >1 year ago), since I wasn't into LoL then, and thats mostly what's missing.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 23 2012 20:57 GMT
#1391
On April 24 2012 03:01 ManyCookies wrote:
My normal games, even blind pick, are so much better than my 1200 ranked games. Some effort put into teamcomp, solid leashes, fairly consistent warding, contention for objectives, non-complete shit CS (110-120 by 20 min is average) etc. Sore thumbs here and there, but those are inevitable.

My Ranked games? I TRONDMERE OR FEED, NEED TO GUARD TOWER FOR 1 MINUTE TOWER RUSH. GANK KILL ME, JUNGLER NO GANK, I AFK HUEHUEHUE.

at a certain point in normal elos you get a combination of good players that don't care and bad players who try really really hard, especially when they have a name player on their team. Nobody is displaying any skill but everyone knows what to do and they don't rage very much. I think it's an elo heaven.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
April 23 2012 21:11 GMT
#1392
anyone else been playing hec lately?

ive been jungling him the last few days with fairly good results. i think hec needs some early game love, but late game holy shit he is so beast and such a blast to play. i go philo hog mercs triforce PD PD. games havent really gotten past that point, but i would get IE next and Ghostblade/shurelias if necessary. i might try a spirit visage or some life steal to synergize with the already pretty nice sustain from w.

westrice does the same build on hec top lane but he gets 3 gp/5 items first. maybe i should try that. 2 seems like enough tho.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 23 2012 21:16 GMT
#1393
Gunblade after Triforce is pretty good on Hec, starting with double gp5 of course. He's so tanky when he's in the middle of the team and spamming his Q constantly will keep his damage output very high with Triforce, Gunblade is for catching people out
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
April 23 2012 21:18 GMT
#1394
hm i'm looking for a new jungler to learn.
currently i'm playing udyr in like 99% of the games i get to jungle.

which would you guys say is the jungler with the highest late game presence. udyr is pretty good, but if your not fed you only got your tankiness and nothing more.
fed udyr is great, because you can afford tank items and damage items. but if the game is pretty passive and you only got normal farm and nothing more, i feel that he is not such a huge threat in the late game at the level i play.

at my level people just dont appreciate a great tank. people are so afraid to commit after the enemie team blows half their cooldowns on me that i often do not know how to force my team into a beneficial fight.
maybe someone with a high amout of poke damage would be good?
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 21:24:24
April 23 2012 21:23 GMT
#1395
A great jungler with great presence in all areas of the game would be Shyvana or Mundo, their late game especially after their core items make them extremely hard to deal with, they can jump on carries and slow them with Randiuns, Frozen Mallet, etc. zoning and doing tons of damage at the same time. Not to mention their early to mid game counterjungling is hands down the best amongst all junglers with their high mobility + clear time.

There's not many junglers with poke damage except for maybe Mundo's cleavers, Nocturne duskbringer, or Malphite seismic shard
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
April 23 2012 21:23 GMT
#1396
On April 24 2012 06:11 Vaporized wrote:
anyone else been playing hec lately?

ive been jungling him the last few days with fairly good results. i think hec needs some early game love, but late game holy shit he is so beast and such a blast to play. i go philo hog mercs triforce PD PD. games havent really gotten past that point, but i would get IE next and Ghostblade/shurelias if necessary. i might try a spirit visage or some life steal to synergize with the already pretty nice sustain from w.

westrice does the same build on hec top lane but he gets 3 gp/5 items first. maybe i should try that. 2 seems like enough tho.


I've been having success just playing as an initiating tank. Level W first and go like Philo/HoG (if you get fed get a Sheen early for some burst) then Spirit Visage and Reverie and Randuin's and you'll be at the CDR cap with 21 def. The point is to take advantage of W. Use ult to separate the enemy team then press W to heal back up after they blow their spells on you.

He's kinda like Skarner for me. Hecarim has a stronger initiation I think, but Skarner has the better follow up. After using ult Skarner can at least permaslow bruisers and help his carries kite them. After ulting Hecarim has pretty much nothing to make you focus him; you can pretty much just run past him because he has no peeling ability unless he saves his E to knock people away.

I tried building damage on Hecarim and doing something similar to what Westrice and Darien tried but I could never get it to work. I've been doing a lot better just building like Skarner but without the attack speed.
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 23 2012 21:24 GMT
#1397
junglers dont tend to bring poke. just play volibear and flip tables all day.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 23 2012 21:28 GMT
#1398
@udyr: it's possible you should just build him less tanky. You'll have to pick your fights more carefully but your team will commit. I forget who here said these words of immense wisdom but when you are playing a tanky guy in solo queue you need to deal enough damage that your teammates rush in to KS you.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 21:32:58
April 23 2012 21:30 GMT
#1399
i jungle 75% of my games and when i want to win i pick skarner. he farms very fast, has good ganks, and really punishes people that are out of position on the other team. i go 0/21/9, start regrowth, philo, mercs, sheen, wits, finish triforce or build a tank item. the trick is to really push your advantage in the mid game when skarner is strongest.

my other favorite jungles are shyvana and sejuani. shyv clears so fast, does insane damage throughout the game, and is good at counterrjungling (which skarner is too, but not as good). sejuani is more of a tank jungle like udyr and kind of relies on the team to get kills. you can carry with sejuani, its just rarer then skarner or shyv. that sejuani ult is insane for initiating a team fight.

lee sin, ww, noc, and mundo are also solid choices for jungles that are powerful late game. i just dont personally play them as much as the others i listed.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 23 2012 21:42 GMT
#1400
wtf V8 disbanded and aphromoo/unstoppable are on EG now?
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