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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
April 21 2012 10:27 GMT
#1041
On April 21 2012 14:09 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 13:58 zodde wrote:
Drunk people streaming is awesome indeed :D


Just ask Saint.

The amount of alcohol in saints blood is directly proportional to the number of viewers on his stream.
Cackle™
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
April 21 2012 10:28 GMT
#1042
The number of viewers Saint has is directly proportional to how many people asks him if he is drunk or not.
washed
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 10:41:53
April 21 2012 10:38 GMT
#1043
Funny how all the streamer girls and top lol gamers pair up so quickly.

Becca-->Hotshot
Pooksie-->Voyboy
Rhazelle-->Westrice
Yoonie-->Xpecial

And it's generally the better looking more mature guys as well. (well hotshot maybe not on stream but he's a lot less childish when you hear him talk to people off stream out of game)

I guess it's not suprising at all just interesting.

Another point i'd like to bring up is technically shields should be much superior to non shields because they scale with resists, which it why dignitas team comps should be more popular. I guess the answer to shields is AoE damage but shields in a teamfight are a lot more efficient than damage whcih I why I'm suprised people like karma haven't been played more, although I guess in karmas case it's the lack of CC but what about Ori?

I also think Lulu is OP as fuck probably one of the best ultimates in the game. Any bruiser becomes invincible and inescapable. AD carries you can use it on in a pinch but not as well used on them. Also resists scale really well with AD carries with heal. I also think Sona should be used in place of taric simply beacause I feel like taric isn't that useful but I'm not totally sure on that.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
April 21 2012 11:30 GMT
#1044
High profile people that are already connected socially and invariably spend a lot of time talking due to the connections of being featured streamers / high profile LoL faces.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 21 2012 12:10 GMT
#1045
Well for an aggressive lane Taric brings cc, which Sona don't, and he isn't as squishy as her. She got hit pretty hard tbh.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
April 21 2012 12:15 GMT
#1046
Sona has both soft and hard CC.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
April 21 2012 12:18 GMT
#1047
On April 21 2012 21:15 Craton wrote:
Sona has both soft and hard CC.


Somehow people tend to forget about her E passive procs which provide a pretty good slow.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 21 2012 12:25 GMT
#1048
Yes, but she doesn't have hard cc until 6, which is what I mean. Alistar and Taric both make better set-ups for ganks/aggressive while retaining sustain lanes I believe.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 12:43:38
April 21 2012 12:43 GMT
#1049
On April 21 2012 21:25 Alaric wrote:
Yes, but she doesn't have hard cc until 6, which is what I mean. Alistar and Taric both make better set-ups for ganks/aggressive while retaining sustain lanes I believe.


Sona is insanely strong in lane and super agressive just because she doesn't stun you doesn't mean she's worse in lane.

You look at cs lanes in high level play and the difference is usually quite small and taric lanes don't particularly have high win rates.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
April 21 2012 13:10 GMT
#1050
On April 21 2012 19:38 Slayer91 wrote:
Another point i'd like to bring up is technically shields should be much superior to non shields because they scale with resists, which it why dignitas team comps should be more popular. I guess the answer to shields is AoE damage but shields in a teamfight are a lot more efficient than damage whcih I why I'm suprised people like karma haven't been played more, although I guess in karmas case it's the lack of CC but what about Ori?


Mmmmmn - I was really hoping Scarra was going to wheel out Karma mid when Soraka was banned, but I guess there's no equivalent to Voy's Lulu top if that's banned as well - Karma works quite well with jungle Mundo anyway, and IMO all she needs is a strong tournament performance as an AP mid to stop people trying to shoehorn her into a support role :/
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 21 2012 13:11 GMT
#1051
No good players take karma support seriously, some have tried ap karma mid, i don't think anyone thinks she's a support, just people think she's bad therefore if someone wants mid they tell you that karma is support to "minimize damage" as it were
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
April 21 2012 13:15 GMT
#1052
Froggen plays a mean AP Karma, he detroyed the former mouz with it lol, but yeah I doubt CLGeu will ever run it vs a competitive team that they respect.
Go go Alliance.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 13:18:34
April 21 2012 13:17 GMT
#1053
The main issue with karma is that support comps generally require good poke to force the other team to engage or else a strong engage (ori has both) karma has neither. And bruisers trying to initiate tend to get kited out of it without very specific team comps.

She does has really strong aoe damage and an aoe heal though.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 13:53:06
April 21 2012 13:52 GMT
#1054
Oh yeah, I know no good players take Karma support seriously - I'm more worried about Riot's intentions (considering another "ugly duckling" champ, Kayle, got a perplexing rework). I know Ori has poke/engage over Karma, but in that sort of comp, by how much does Soraka outclass Karma, considering her similar lack of poke/engage? I'd assume Karma's shield would help compensate for the lack of armor buff; shame she doesn't have a silence, though.

Speaking of Froggen, just saw him murder everyone with AP Kog'maw on-stream - I wish I could hit that many Rs, jaysus. Ran Flash/Cleanse, never died.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 21 2012 13:58 GMT
#1055
On April 21 2012 22:52 Haasts wrote:
Oh yeah, I know no good players take Karma support seriously - I'm more worried about Riot's intentions (considering another "ugly duckling" champ, Kayle, got a perplexing rework). I know Ori has poke/engage over Karma, but in that sort of comp, by how much does Soraka outclass Karma, considering her similar lack of poke/engage? I'd assume Karma's shield would help compensate for the lack of armor buff; shame she doesn't have a silence, though.

Speaking of Froggen, just saw him murder everyone with AP Kog'maw on-stream - I wish I could hit that many Rs, jaysus. Ran Flash/Cleanse, never died.


Froggen is just on another level,.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 21 2012 14:09 GMT
#1056
The pathfinding looks very buggy too, has anyone had problems with that?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 21 2012 14:25 GMT
#1057
On April 21 2012 22:52 Haasts wrote:
Oh yeah, I know no good players take Karma support seriously - I'm more worried about Riot's intentions (considering another "ugly duckling" champ, Kayle, got a perplexing rework). I know Ori has poke/engage over Karma, but in that sort of comp, by how much does Soraka outclass Karma, considering her similar lack of poke/engage? I'd assume Karma's shield would help compensate for the lack of armor buff; shame she doesn't have a silence, though.

Speaking of Froggen, just saw him murder everyone with AP Kog'maw on-stream - I wish I could hit that many Rs, jaysus. Ran Flash/Cleanse, never died.


Soraka has insane healing and starcall spam is suprisingly strong if soraka is tanky enough to be in a fight. (Support soraka neverg gets to this).

Karmas heal lategame on high hp targets with high AP is really good but most of the time you never get people close enough to use it all properly. Earlier on it's not that good.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 21 2012 15:02 GMT
#1058
On April 21 2012 23:09 Alaric wrote:
The pathfinding looks very buggy too, has anyone had problems with that?


Yes. Sometimes the minions gather up in such a way that my champ just goes crazy buggering all behind the minion line rather than chasing in any effective manner. Secret ali/fizz/hecarim buff...
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
April 21 2012 15:04 GMT
#1059
Unrelated to this patch, I actually had a scenario occur the other day where the three small wraiths formed a perfect impassable wall protecting the big wraith.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 21 2012 15:12 GMT
#1060
I was near the narrow path between river and wraiths at mid, blue side, and I clicked on an enemy champ we caught in the river bush. My champion tried to go down the path between red buff and dragon instead of just running into the river...
And several other stuff like that. I also noticed that my cleavers sometimes flew at a weird angle (something like 20-30° from where I pressed Q) but I don't know if this is again a hitbox problem (I know I've had difficulty selecting a champ, clicking on him more than half the time showed me minions or nothing) or just me not yet used to my new mouse and slipping that often.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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