Overall you should just ignore people that want to ride your balls for no reason. If you're 0/5/0 you probably deserve it though.
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
Overall you should just ignore people that want to ride your balls for no reason. If you're 0/5/0 you probably deserve it though. | ||
ManyCookies
1164 Posts
Didn't Galio at that point just suffer from Soraka Syndrome? Even as a support player, Soraka's the fuckin' worst. Soraka Syndrome is Galio Syndrome, isn't it? Powerful champion that's boring to play. Not to be confused with Anivia Arthritis, where the champion is powerful but difficult to play, Morde Malady (also known as Lux's Lobotomy), where the champion is powerful but has the stigma of having bad players, and Ryze Rheumatitis, where the champion is powerful but received an inconsequential nerf which made everyone stop playing it for some reason. | ||
Juddas
768 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 26 2012 03:06 Ryuu314 wrote: Mundo>Shyvana; Both of them have more or less equally fast clear speeds and are both really good at counterjungling. What makes Mundo>Shyvana is the fact that Mundo isn't red buff reliant when it comes to ganks and he actually has a good ranged poke. In SV's words, Mundo does everything Shyvana does and more. Rammus is definitely top tier jungler cause powerball ganks are ridiculous. Not so sure about Nocturne. He's good, but the other junglers are just better. I haven't seen much Rammus play lately. Is he still considered a top pick? Seems like other tanky guys (Shen) and bruisers (Udyr, Shyvana, Irelia) are getting a lot more play. Lee Sin is also getting picked up a lot. On March 26 2012 06:42 ManyCookies wrote: Soraka Syndrome is Galio Syndrome, isn't it? Powerful champion that's boring to play. Soraka is nothing like Galio. Galio at least feels like you are helping if your team is bad. Soraka is quite useless if the carries are retards (1 heal every 20 seconds and a silence every ten can't save a lvl 4 towerdiving Ashe with half health attacking Urgot, for instance). | ||
ManyCookies
1164 Posts
On March 26 2012 06:50 cLutZ wrote: Soraka is nothing like Galio. Galio at least feels like you are helping if your team is bad. Soraka is quite useless if the carries are retards (1 heal every 20 seconds and a silence every ten can't save a lvl 4 towerdiving Ashe with half health attacking Urgot, for instance). Oh, so Soraka Syndrome is a powerful champion that is only powerful with a good team? I think that nominative honor should go to Trundle or support Nunu. At least with Soraka you can keep your diver alive for a round or two of attacks. Nunu is just "If you ever want to disengage, I can slow him so he can't chase. Or you could tower dive, that's cool.". | ||
Niton
United States2395 Posts
On March 26 2012 06:56 ManyCookies wrote: Oh, so Soraka Syndrome is a powerful champion that is only powerful with a good team? I think that nominative honor should go to Trundle or support Nunu. At least with Soraka you can keep your diver alive for a round or two of attacks. Nunu is just "If you ever want to disengage, I can slow him so he can't chase. Or you could tower dive, that's cool.". No, it was just an inference that Soraka came before Galio as far as 'powerful to play, boring as shit' goes. | ||
zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On March 26 2012 06:42 ManyCookies wrote: Soraka Syndrome is Galio Syndrome, isn't it? Powerful champion that's boring to play. That. | ||
jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 26 2012 06:42 ManyCookies wrote: Soraka Syndrome is Galio Syndrome, isn't it? Powerful champion that's boring to play. Not to be confused with Anivia Arthritis, where the champion is powerful but difficult to play, Morde Malady (also known as Lux's Lobotomy), where the champion is powerful but has the stigma of having bad players, and Ryze Rheumatitis, where the champion is powerful but received an inconsequential nerf which made everyone stop playing it for some reason. I think I love you. | ||
barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On March 26 2012 07:10 Niton wrote: No, it was just an inference that Soraka came before Galio as far as 'powerful to play, boring as shit' goes. It's somewhat of a valid analogy, but AFAIK the community perception of soraka, for the longest time, was that she was boring AND a garbage champ. The difference with galio is that most ppl acknowledged galio was a strong champ, but still no1 played him, with i think one exception of a 2-3 week period where he was perma-banned/picked. Then he faded into obscurity despite few changes. Soraka, on the other hand, was viewed as a UP pick up until the AD + support phenomenon. Before that, i think she was popular during the heal-comp era, but her amount of play and her 'boringness' never really came up. The only other champs that i've really seen like this (that i can think of off the top of my head) are xerath and poppy, both of whom are certainly acknowledged as strong (tho OP status and the level of strength is certainly debatable), yet still aren't played. So i guess poppy came be4 galio, but TL made a fuss about galio before they did about poppy. note: this is purely opinion and based on recollection, and so should not be treated as fact. Also this is just my definition of the term, and may not be the same for everyone or even necessarily correct. | ||
Niton
United States2395 Posts
On March 26 2012 07:50 barbsq wrote: It's somewhat of a valid analogy, but AFAIK the community perception of soraka, for the longest time, was that she was boring AND a garbage champ. The difference with galio is that most ppl acknowledged galio was a strong champ, but still no1 played him, with i think one exception of a 2-3 week period where he was perma-banned/picked. Then he faded into obscurity despite few changes. Soraka, on the other hand, was viewed as a UP pick up until the AD + support phenomenon. Before that, i think she was popular during the heal-comp era, but her amount of play and her 'boringness' never really came up. The only other champs that i've really seen like this (that i can think of off the top of my head) are xerath and poppy, both of whom are certainly acknowledged as strong (tho OP status and the level of strength is certainly debatable), yet still aren't played. So i guess poppy came be4 galio, but TL made a fuss about galio before they did about poppy. That's definitely a true point in the way you're talking about it. Soraka only became OP+Underplayed once people figured out the 'right' way to do things. note: this is purely opinion and based on recollection, and so should not be treated as fact. Also this is just my definition of the term, and may not be the same for everyone or even necessarily correct. how do you feel about tanks | ||
NpG)Explosive
France994 Posts
Fiora: I didn't tried her during free weak. I feel she belongs more to the top lane. If she really is Yi 2.0 then I'm not so interested. Volibear: I din't tried him during free weeks. Also feel he belongs to top lane more than the jungle. I could be tempted if he is really a viable pick. I have seen so few Volibears in my games since release that I can't judge how good he is. Sejuani: I played her 3 or 4 times this week and won all games. Besides getting my wraiths and red stolent at level 1 in one of my games, I didn't get counterjungled so I was lucky since everyone is complaining about how easy it is to counterjungle her. First clear is faster than I expected and it gets faster which is good. I jungle Malphite from time to time and unless the other team relies on AS a lot, I see no reason to pick Malphite over her. Nautilus: I didn't try him during free week. Many people like him and have been telling he is similar to Sejuani but better. Maokai: I've never tried him as a jungler. He was a popular pick at my level around Christmas so I can tell his ganks are really annoying. I heard his jungle clear gets slower and slower, is it really that bad? | ||
XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
Looks like I'm blaming more and more my allies, which is not a good habit (even though I feel like I am not the one to blame for the defeats) Any tips on how to not rage? I'm still enjoying this game alot, but I really can't stand people who either : Throw game away Do not communicate Play poorly I usually pick last, always greet everyone in champion select. Ask everyone what they want to play, and try to help my teammates make compromise (say two persons want the same spot). I'm usually stuck playing jungle or support. Needless to say that these two roles are not my favorite, but I'm willing to do my part to help my team. I usually time everything (buff, dragon, baron). I usually try to make calls for the team... | ||
HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 26 2012 06:42 ManyCookies wrote: Soraka Syndrome is Galio Syndrome, isn't it? Powerful champion that's boring to play. Not to be confused with Anivia Arthritis, where the champion is powerful but difficult to play, Morde Malady (also known as Lux's Lobotomy), where the champion is powerful but has the stigma of having bad players, and Ryze Rheumatitis, where the champion is powerful but received an inconsequential nerf which made everyone stop playing it for some reason. Will this be on the test? + Show Spoiler + Professor cookies ಠ_ಠ: This is the test + Show Spoiler + Me ಥ_ಥ: There's a test?! | ||
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 26 2012 06:50 cLutZ wrote: I haven't seen much Rammus play lately. Is he still considered a top pick? Seems like other tanky guys (Shen) and bruisers (Udyr, Shyvana, Irelia) are getting a lot more play. Lee Sin is also getting picked up a lot. Lack of rammus is mostly because he's perma-banned at pretty much all levels of play. This leads to lack of practice with the champ so when he does slip by the bans he doesn't always perform all that well due to the players being out of practice with him. Lee Sin's just incredibly versatile all around in jungle and in lane. On March 26 2012 05:25 fishinguy wrote: Noc is really strong jungler, people underestimate him a lot. His clears are very fast, good sustain, and a decent duelist thx to his shield. But what makes Noc incredible is his level 6 gank that can completely ignore wards. His clears are okay; they're not the level of udyr/shyvana/mundo fast. Sustain isn't a problem for any of the top tier junglers anymore. His 1v1 is strong, but it's still inferior to Lee Sin, Mundo, Udyr, etc... Noc's lvl 6 gank can only ignore wards if you go through the lane and even then the range on it is still pretty low. If you want ganks that ignore wards you're better off playing Rammus or Pantheon; Rammus has ward-ignoring ganks much earlier and Panth's lvl 6 ganks are much stronger. Nocturne's a good champion, it's just that he's good in all the areas, but doesn't shine in any of them compared to other top junglers. | ||
barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On March 26 2012 06:42 ManyCookies wrote: Soraka Syndrome is Galio Syndrome, isn't it? Powerful champion that's boring to play. Not to be confused with Anivia Arthritis, where the champion is powerful but difficult to play, Morde Malady (also known as Lux's Lobotomy), where the champion is powerful but has the stigma of having bad players, and Ryze Rheumatitis, where the champion is powerful but received an inconsequential nerf which made everyone stop playing it for some reason. this is the most intelligent thing I've read all day | ||
SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On March 26 2012 08:07 XenOmega wrote: On an insane losing streak now... Looks like I'm blaming more and more my allies, which is not a good habit (even though I feel like I am not the one to blame for the defeats) Any tips on how to not rage? I'm still enjoying this game alot, but I really can't stand people who either : Throw game away Do not communicate Play poorly I usually pick last, always greet everyone in champion select. Ask everyone what they want to play, and try to help my teammates make compromise (say two persons want the same spot). I'm usually stuck playing jungle or support. Needless to say that these two roles are not my favorite, but I'm willing to do my part to help my team. I usually time everything (buff, dragon, baron). I usually try to make calls for the team... Depends on what role you're playing. Support and jungle very rarely are at fault for things. Solo's are usually the ones that lose games (with some help from jungle ganks). The best way to not rage is to know when something is your fault, and when something isn't. Losing 1v1 in lane? Entirely your fault. Enemy jungler 8/0/0 to your 0/0/0 jungler? Your junglers fault. Haven't gotten any dragons? Bottom lanes fault for losing control. Having your jungle invaded? Weak lanes/losing lanes which could be any reason of the above. No wards on the map? During laning you should buy atleast one ward for your own lane (jungle will probably need to help out mid with wards), after laning, it depends on things like how many gp5 your support has and how many assists (which both could be brought back to losing their lane). I wish I was last pick. You can't be counter picked, you can't be blamed for being the highest elo and losing. You don't have to decide which role you're going to play that game. You also can't be expected to carry the game. It's the stress free pick. | ||
sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On March 26 2012 07:59 NpG)Explosive wrote: I should reack 6.3k IP soon and I'd like some feedback on what champion to buy. I'd like someone who can jungle so it limits the list to Fiora, Volibear, Sejuani, Nautilus and Maokai. Here are my thoughts on them so far: Fiora: I didn't tried her during free weak. I feel she belongs more to the top lane. If she really is Yi 2.0 then I'm not so interested. Volibear: I din't tried him during free weeks. Also feel he belongs to top lane more than the jungle. I could be tempted if he is really a viable pick. I have seen so few Volibears in my games since release that I can't judge how good he is. Sejuani: I played her 3 or 4 times this week and won all games. Besides getting my wraiths and red stolent at level 1 in one of my games, I didn't get counterjungled so I was lucky since everyone is complaining about how easy it is to counterjungle her. First clear is faster than I expected and it gets faster which is good. I jungle Malphite from time to time and unless the other team relies on AS a lot, I see no reason to pick Malphite over her. Nautilus: I didn't try him during free week. Many people like him and have been telling he is similar to Sejuani but better. Maokai: I've never tried him as a jungler. He was a popular pick at my level around Christmas so I can tell his ganks are really annoying. I heard his jungle clear gets slower and slower, is it really that bad? Fiora and Voli are not worth jungling Sej is pretty good but not very interesting to play, her whole gameplay is just WQEWQEWQER, wouldn't recommend. Nautilus is who I recommend, way more interesting play with pull and stuff, more CC than Sej in most situations. Apart from a rough first clear his jungle time is pretty fast when you use dredge line to pull yourself around. And cool tricks like using your dredge to go over walls in some spots (check out the naut thread). IMO the best disruptive tanky jungler in the game, which is a good role to have a champ for. Maokai: I fucking hate maokai, lategame you are so goddamn useless you are basically just an ult-bot and a snare, not fun. | ||
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