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On March 24 2012 18:55 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 18:52 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 18:51 JackDino wrote:On March 24 2012 18:48 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 18:39 Niton wrote:On March 24 2012 18:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Wtf? seriously, galio support? :O Same concept as Janna - 2 good nukes that double as support abilities, a powerful shield, and a fight-changing ultimate. It's kinda weird, but it makes a lot of sense. He doesn't offer any form of strong cc, like janna's knockup which is amazing in lane fights. His shield offers more to him, than it does to lane mate. Though slow/speed boost from his q and e are nice, they aren't that amazing in lane. I just feel that there are plenty of stronger supports. Not in teamfights, and when running cait you can get away with slightly worse supports. good point. Janna's ult mitigates galio's ult pretty hard, though. Gosh, SV's riven is so ridic. People also tend to forget how good Galio E is. 90 armor+mr on your squishies plus the heals is pretty fucking huge.
only galio gets the heal. the target you shield only gets the 90 armor/mr; they don't get the heal. it's kinda counter-intuitive that way. you shield a squishy and they get 90 armor/mr, and every time they get hit galio gets healed.
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On March 24 2012 18:57 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 18:55 Doctorbeat wrote:On March 24 2012 18:52 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 18:51 JackDino wrote:On March 24 2012 18:48 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 18:39 Niton wrote:On March 24 2012 18:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Wtf? seriously, galio support? :O Same concept as Janna - 2 good nukes that double as support abilities, a powerful shield, and a fight-changing ultimate. It's kinda weird, but it makes a lot of sense. He doesn't offer any form of strong cc, like janna's knockup which is amazing in lane fights. His shield offers more to him, than it does to lane mate. Though slow/speed boost from his q and e are nice, they aren't that amazing in lane. I just feel that there are plenty of stronger supports. Not in teamfights, and when running cait you can get away with slightly worse supports. good point. Janna's ult mitigates galio's ult pretty hard, though. Gosh, SV's riven is so ridic. People also tend to forget how good Galio E is. 90 armor+mr on your squishies plus the heals is pretty fucking huge. only galio gets the heal. the target you shield only gets the 90 armor/mr; they don't get the heal. it's kinda counter-intuitive that way. you shield a squishy and they get 90 armor/mr, and every time they get hit galio gets healed.
Hmm didn't know about that.
Still, being able to buff your carry with that means that your team can't be bursted down in any way.
I mean, people buy aegis for the aura and that's 24 mr and 12 armor. 90/90, even if it's just for 4 seconds is pretty damn big.
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On March 24 2012 19:03 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 18:57 Ryuu314 wrote:On March 24 2012 18:55 Doctorbeat wrote:On March 24 2012 18:52 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 18:51 JackDino wrote:On March 24 2012 18:48 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 18:39 Niton wrote:On March 24 2012 18:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Wtf? seriously, galio support? :O Same concept as Janna - 2 good nukes that double as support abilities, a powerful shield, and a fight-changing ultimate. It's kinda weird, but it makes a lot of sense. He doesn't offer any form of strong cc, like janna's knockup which is amazing in lane fights. His shield offers more to him, than it does to lane mate. Though slow/speed boost from his q and e are nice, they aren't that amazing in lane. I just feel that there are plenty of stronger supports. Not in teamfights, and when running cait you can get away with slightly worse supports. good point. Janna's ult mitigates galio's ult pretty hard, though. Gosh, SV's riven is so ridic. People also tend to forget how good Galio E is. 90 armor+mr on your squishies plus the heals is pretty fucking huge. only galio gets the heal. the target you shield only gets the 90 armor/mr; they don't get the heal. it's kinda counter-intuitive that way. you shield a squishy and they get 90 armor/mr, and every time they get hit galio gets healed. Hmm didn't know about that. Still, being able to buff your carry with that means that your team can't be bursted down in any way. I mean, people buy aegis for the aura and that's 24 mr and 12 armor. 90/90, even if it's just for 4 seconds is pretty damn big.
24/12 AURA, so its 24/12 x 5 = gud
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On March 24 2012 19:11 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 19:03 Doctorbeat wrote:On March 24 2012 18:57 Ryuu314 wrote:On March 24 2012 18:55 Doctorbeat wrote:On March 24 2012 18:52 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 18:51 JackDino wrote:On March 24 2012 18:48 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 18:39 Niton wrote:On March 24 2012 18:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Wtf? seriously, galio support? :O Same concept as Janna - 2 good nukes that double as support abilities, a powerful shield, and a fight-changing ultimate. It's kinda weird, but it makes a lot of sense. He doesn't offer any form of strong cc, like janna's knockup which is amazing in lane fights. His shield offers more to him, than it does to lane mate. Though slow/speed boost from his q and e are nice, they aren't that amazing in lane. I just feel that there are plenty of stronger supports. Not in teamfights, and when running cait you can get away with slightly worse supports. good point. Janna's ult mitigates galio's ult pretty hard, though. Gosh, SV's riven is so ridic. People also tend to forget how good Galio E is. 90 armor+mr on your squishies plus the heals is pretty fucking huge. only galio gets the heal. the target you shield only gets the 90 armor/mr; they don't get the heal. it's kinda counter-intuitive that way. you shield a squishy and they get 90 armor/mr, and every time they get hit galio gets healed. Hmm didn't know about that. Still, being able to buff your carry with that means that your team can't be bursted down in any way. I mean, people buy aegis for the aura and that's 24 mr and 12 armor. 90/90, even if it's just for 4 seconds is pretty damn big. 24/12 AURA, so its 24/12 x 5 = gud
Yeah, aegis is good 
Also, anyone know why Saint maxes W over Q on Riven? Does he do it purely for the CDR, because it doesn't do more damage. I graphed the AD scaling with AD as X:
W dps maxed: (170+X)/7 . W scales with 1.0 AD and the cooldown is 7 seconds at lvl 5 W.
Q dps maxed: 3(130+0.7X)/13 . Q has three strikes, all dealing same amount of damage. Scaling is with 0.7 AD and cooldown is 13s at lvl 5 Q.
Plotted out Q has higher damage at all AD amounts. I did not take into account personal CDR or anything since the multiplier for both graphs would be the same. So at lvl 9 it is better to have maxed Q over maxed W, if you're talking damage.
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CLG so mean to Doublelift.
"Doublelift, you need to use your arrow to engage! Not during middle of the fight! It doesn't matter if you misss, it just needs to be a hard engage!"
 oubelift tries to engage with arrow and misses barely*
"Dude Doublelift, wtf was that..."
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On March 24 2012 19:32 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 19:11 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 19:03 Doctorbeat wrote:On March 24 2012 18:57 Ryuu314 wrote:On March 24 2012 18:55 Doctorbeat wrote:On March 24 2012 18:52 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 18:51 JackDino wrote:On March 24 2012 18:48 wei2coolman wrote:On March 24 2012 18:39 Niton wrote:On March 24 2012 18:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Wtf? seriously, galio support? :O Same concept as Janna - 2 good nukes that double as support abilities, a powerful shield, and a fight-changing ultimate. It's kinda weird, but it makes a lot of sense. He doesn't offer any form of strong cc, like janna's knockup which is amazing in lane fights. His shield offers more to him, than it does to lane mate. Though slow/speed boost from his q and e are nice, they aren't that amazing in lane. I just feel that there are plenty of stronger supports. Not in teamfights, and when running cait you can get away with slightly worse supports. good point. Janna's ult mitigates galio's ult pretty hard, though. Gosh, SV's riven is so ridic. People also tend to forget how good Galio E is. 90 armor+mr on your squishies plus the heals is pretty fucking huge. only galio gets the heal. the target you shield only gets the 90 armor/mr; they don't get the heal. it's kinda counter-intuitive that way. you shield a squishy and they get 90 armor/mr, and every time they get hit galio gets healed. Hmm didn't know about that. Still, being able to buff your carry with that means that your team can't be bursted down in any way. I mean, people buy aegis for the aura and that's 24 mr and 12 armor. 90/90, even if it's just for 4 seconds is pretty damn big. 24/12 AURA, so its 24/12 x 5 = gud Yeah, aegis is good Also, anyone know why Saint maxes W over Q on Riven? Does he do it purely for the CDR, because it doesn't do more damage. I graphed the AD scaling with AD as X: W dps maxed: (170+X)/7 . W scales with 1.0 AD and the cooldown is 7 seconds at lvl 5 W. Q dps maxed: 3(130+0.7X)/13 . Q has three strikes, all dealing same amount of damage. Scaling is with 0.7 AD and cooldown is 13s at lvl 5 Q. Plotted out Q has higher damage at all AD amounts. I did not take into account personal CDR or anything since the multiplier for both graphs would be the same. So at lvl 9 it is better to have maxed Q over maxed W, if you're talking damage.
simply because of cdr, yes. it is quite reasonable to be able to use it twice in a short fight on 7sec cooldown, while you only need q for mobility and to charge up passive
Personally, I've taking to maxing e over q just for the cdr too. Like, the damage on q is kinda nice but realistically, you're not likely to hit anyone with 3 straight q hits unless they're afk or something.
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On March 24 2012 19:42 iCanada wrote:CLG so mean to Doublelift. "Doublelift, you need to use your arrow to engage! Not during middle of the fight! It doesn't matter if you misss, it just needs to be a hard engage!" oubelift tries to engage with arrow and misses barely* "Dude Doublelift, wtf was that..."
Well it wasn't really a barely miss. It was an awful arrow. They're not really being mean, he just sucks at arrowing. Hotshot facechek was so funny though.
#1 noobie mistake is warding a brush that you don't want to facecheck thus facechecking.
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On March 24 2012 19:45 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 19:42 iCanada wrote:CLG so mean to Doublelift. "Doublelift, you need to use your arrow to engage! Not during middle of the fight! It doesn't matter if you misss, it just needs to be a hard engage!" oubelift tries to engage with arrow and misses barely* "Dude Doublelift, wtf was that..." Well it wasn't really a barely miss. It was an awful arrow. They're not really being mean, he just sucks at arrowing. Hotshot facechek was so funny though. #1 noobie mistake is warding a brush that you don't want to facecheck thus facechecking.
It was a barely miss. Went right between two groups of champs that got split by the arrow...
As far as I am concerned it was a pretty good arrow, and I normally hate on Doublelift. Granted, the team wasn't in a great spot to take advantage of the split, but he just did what he was told.
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On March 24 2012 19:42 iCanada wrote:CLG so mean to Doublelift. "Doublelift, you need to use your arrow to engage! Not during middle of the fight! It doesn't matter if you misss, it just needs to be a hard engage!" oubelift tries to engage with arrow and misses barely* "Dude Doublelift, wtf was that..."
*misses badly
There wasn't anyone here.
They're making me laugh, they have better communication than TSM but they just keep doing retarded things, esp Doublelift and HSGG.
Doublelift kinda act like a child "They said me to do that, I don't really want... oh well maybe I'll do it" and HSGG's is just useless, facechecking da baron.
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Man Froggen does the most weird builds on anivia and still goes legendary, I thought Bloodthirster Manamune was weird but apparently Randuins Abyssal and Maw of Mal works too :/
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On March 24 2012 19:59 dooraven wrote:
Man Froggen does the most weird builds on anivia and still goes legendary, I thought Bloodthirster Manamune was weird but apparently Randuins Abyssal and Maw of Mal works too :/
and people say there are no hybrid champs
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"I want to eat, I'm so hungry.."
"Too bad doublelift, start to play better. When you win us scrims you can eat."
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On March 24 2012 20:31 iCanada wrote:
"I want to eat, I'm so hungry.."
"Too bad doublelift, start to play better. When you win us scrims you can eat."
sounds like a gaming house to me
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Everytime I watch SaintViciou's stream during scrims.
Shut up HotShot
You're wrong HotShot
Your opinion is invalid HotShot.
etc.
He has the other streams volumes low so I can't tell if HotShot is just being an idiot or SV just really does not respect HS's opinion/viewers on the game.
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On March 24 2012 20:31 iCanada wrote:
"I want to eat, I'm so hungry.."
"Too bad doublelift, start to play better. When you win us scrims you can eat."
that's the spirit ^_^
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SV is like that to more than just Hotshot. He's fast becoming the Reginald of CLG.
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On March 24 2012 21:33 Craton wrote:
SV is like that to more than just Hotshot. He's fast becoming the Reginald of CLG.
The very big difference is that he's carrying CLG more often than not and that his calls are accurate most of the time.
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On March 24 2012 21:37 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 21:33 Craton wrote:
SV is like that to more than just Hotshot. He's fast becoming the Reginald of CLG. The very big difference is that he's carrying CLG more often than not and that his calls are accurate most of the time.
and he isnt yelling at them and he stays very focused on the game.
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On March 24 2012 21:44 jadoth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 21:37 mr_tolkien wrote:On March 24 2012 21:33 Craton wrote:
SV is like that to more than just Hotshot. He's fast becoming the Reginald of CLG. The very big difference is that he's carrying CLG more often than not and that his calls are accurate most of the time. and he isnt yelling at them and he stays very focused on the game.
He is leading them with his calls. His tone is always neutral. I like it how he handles it
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On March 24 2012 21:33 Craton wrote:
SV is like that to more than just Hotshot. He's fast becoming the Reginald of CLG.
No no, he just take the leader spot there not as an asshole as Reginald. He maybe harsh to his teammate but he wants to keep them focus and the most important thing is he accept his own mistake not like Reginald always play bad and blame the shit out of other people.
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