[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 66
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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JokerSan
United States306 Posts
On March 24 2012 15:51 sob3k wrote: What is the best itemization if all you want to do is backdoor....lets say I wanted to build AD Kassadin and just push down towers, what I buy? | ||
anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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MCMilo
United States365 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On March 24 2012 05:45 Navi wrote: well in terms of gold efficiency the quints themselves are n ot very impressive however, in terms of a stat, spellvamp and lifesteal are more useful if you are allowed to consistently hit creeps with the relevant attack / spells and can consistently make use of the healing. in other words, in lanes where you would be dominating either way it would be pretty inefficient as you would not be able to make full use of the healing nor would you desire it over additional damage. likewise, in lanes where you lose hard, you would not want it either imo because you would not be able to hit creeps or the enemy champion in any meaningful way without being punished such that the relative inefficiency of the quints would be greater than the additional damage or mitigation that flat MR / armor or AP / AD would give you i think kennen probably has the nicest time with them as he is able to apply the spellvamp as he desires on a relatively low CD to creeps or the enemy champion (as it has great range and low CD for his Q at least) and he is generally able to dictate the pace of a lane because his counterharass and stun prevents an enemy from going on him early levels without eating a devestating amount of creep aggro. the nature of the quints themselves would make it such that you prefer a drawn out laning phase with small harass that builds up (and allows you to utilize your quints so that you slowly but surely outsustain your opponent). i think that they are niche enough that they are certainly not a must-buy on any champion at the moment, but for connoisseurs of the champions that may use them, they might be a curious option Mordekaiser utilises them well for the same way - mainly because it offsets the low-level health costs, rather than shrugging off harass (his shield does that moreso than the quints) and he's probably going to be push push pushing to make consistent use of the vamp as well. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
Good stuff. Still don't know how they manage to play as a team half the time. Bloody mystery of the universe. | ||
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 24 2012 17:40 gtrsrs wrote: pre-remake alistar could do the same thing, it was hilarious. tower can't kill you because of ult. passive munches tower. AS munches tower. teammates rage i actually really really liked AP alistar before the remake. Prior to remake he had 1.0 ratios on both his Q and W and if you get a lichbane you chunk towers for like 30% of its hp per lichbane hit with your 60% increased damage to towers passive. I find it incredibly ironic that AP alistar became fotm after they nerfed his ratios. | ||
Niton
United States2395 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:00 Parnage wrote: Ah CLG scrims, Mommy and Daddy fighting again... Good stuff. Still don't know how they manage to play as a team half the time. Bloody mystery of the universe. This argument is particularly dumb, because it's Hotshot arguing about why saint is in the wrong for being pissed at him.. when Hotshot gave up a free kill from overextending top, then couldn't keep track of whether or not the enemy top had flash. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:00 Parnage wrote: Ah CLG scrims, Mommy and Daddy fighting again... Good stuff. Still don't know how they manage to play as a team half the time. Bloody mystery of the universe. And all is right in the world!~ | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:35 wei2coolman wrote: Wtf? seriously, galio support? :O He is listed as support in the client :p | ||
Niton
United States2395 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:35 wei2coolman wrote: Wtf? seriously, galio support? :O Same concept as Janna - 2 good nukes that double as support abilities, a powerful shield, and a fight-changing ultimate. It's kinda weird, but it makes a lot of sense. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:39 Niton wrote: Same concept as Janna - 2 good nukes that double as support abilities, a powerful shield, and a fight-changing ultimate. It's kinda weird, but it makes a lot of sense. He doesn't offer any form of strong cc, like janna's knockup which is amazing in lane fights. His shield offers more to him, than it does to lane mate. Though slow/speed boost from his q and e are nice, they aren't that amazing in lane. I just feel that there are plenty of stronger supports. | ||
JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:48 wei2coolman wrote: He doesn't offer any form of strong cc, like janna's knockup which is amazing in lane fights. His shield offers more to him, than it does to lane mate. Though slow/speed boost from his q and e are nice, they aren't that amazing in lane. I just feel that there are plenty of stronger supports. Not in teamfights, and when running cait you can get away with slightly worse supports. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:51 JackDino wrote: Not in teamfights, and when running cait you can get away with slightly worse supports. good point. Janna's ult mitigates galio's ult pretty hard, though. Gosh, SV's riven is so ridic. | ||
Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:52 wei2coolman wrote: good point. Janna's ult mitigates galio's ult pretty hard, though. Gosh, SV's riven is so ridic. People also tend to forget how good Galio E is. 90 armor+mr on your squishies plus the heals is pretty fucking huge. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:55 Doctorbeat wrote: People also tend to forget how good Galio E is. 90 armor+mr on your squishies plus the heals is pretty fucking huge. It's good in teamfights, I just feel his laning phase as a support doesn't offer that much. | ||
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