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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
April 14 2012 21:21 GMT
#6061
Yeah, okay.. never count CLGeu out until you destroy their nexus, their teamfight co-ordination is just insane.
Go go Alliance.
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
April 14 2012 21:21 GMT
#6062
That MF derped hard when she was positioned perfectly at Baron to eat Charm into WW ult. Really impressive teamfights from CLG though.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 14 2012 21:21 GMT
#6063
Derpers is 4 2.5k solo queue players and 1 2.2k support I think. Their team comp last game was super early game with lee/mf/kennen tho.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 14 2012 21:22 GMT
#6064
On April 15 2012 06:20 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 06:19 JackDino wrote:
CLG eu actually can teamfight and calls out targets in teamfights instead of yelling random shit or "kill closest target" like other teams do.

I was watching froggen and someone said just go for closest target... MF so weak...

Was watching snoopeh, snoopeh was yelling I"M ON MF I"M ON MF like 5 times afterwards he told them to kill MF. Kill closest target is bad focus because it's not the same target for everyone. Just need someone announcign a target in teamfight.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
April 14 2012 21:23 GMT
#6065
CLG.eu is just like CLG.na. They lose early-game very often, but somehow, at some point, things just click and the game turns around completely.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 14 2012 21:26 GMT
#6066
On April 15 2012 06:21 Slayer91 wrote:
Derpers is 4 2.5k solo queue players and 1 2.2k support I think. Their team comp last game was super early game with lee/mf/kennen tho.

That and Kennen went in ahead of the team in the last fight without anyone being able to get much out of his CC. MF needed to be able to shoot someone during Kennen ult for them to be able to win the fight.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 14 2012 21:26 GMT
#6067
Anivia ban, Froggen is sad
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 21:31:12
April 14 2012 21:29 GMT
#6068
On April 15 2012 06:21 Slayer91 wrote:
Derpers is 4 2.5k solo queue players and 1 2.2k support I think. Their team comp last game was super early game with lee/mf/kennen tho.


I knew mf was late game, but I never knew that was the same with lee and kennen.

Why are those two early game champions? O_O I would imagine that they're still ridiculously strong come late game.

Oh snaps a Ziggs! xD
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 14 2012 21:31 GMT
#6069
How do you engage with lee sin kennen and udyr? Lee sin and kennen and udyr are all great with someone to engage, but initiating a fight is like super important in competitive play. You have to do awkward flashes just to start a fight.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 14 2012 21:33 GMT
#6070
On April 15 2012 06:23 Qualm wrote:
CLG.eu is just like CLG.na. They lose early-game very often, but somehow, at some point, things just click and the game turns around completely.


There is losing early game, then getting thrashed early game.

I'd describe that last game as more of the latter. All three lanes were 20-30 CS behind and they had a kill/dragon/tower advantage as well.

I think Derpers did a poor job forcing their advantage aside from doing baron, but that in itself is a poor idea because forcing baron impossible; too many debuffs. Shoulda been knocking down towers and baiting baron instead.

/shrug
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 14 2012 21:33 GMT
#6071
On April 15 2012 06:31 Slayer91 wrote:
How do you engage with lee sin kennen and udyr? Lee sin and kennen and udyr are all great with someone to engage, but initiating a fight is like super important in competitive play. You have to do awkward flashes just to start a fight.


Ahhh...I see what you mean. In that sense then, I'm assuming your ability to fight late game has a lot to do with range and your ability to jump into it quickly to initiate?
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 21:35:26
April 14 2012 21:35 GMT
#6072
Kennen engages pretty well with flash ult zhonyas.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 21:36:41
April 14 2012 21:35 GMT
#6073
On April 15 2012 06:33 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 06:31 Slayer91 wrote:
How do you engage with lee sin kennen and udyr? Lee sin and kennen and udyr are all great with someone to engage, but initiating a fight is like super important in competitive play. You have to do awkward flashes just to start a fight.


Ahhh...I see what you mean. In that sense then, I'm assuming your ability to fight late game has a lot to do with range and your ability to jump into it quickly to initiate?


You need either stronger poke or strong engage.

Kennens flash zonyas is only good if you can get a stun on their AD or AP, and if you don't it's kinda useless, since mundo and warwick are so tanky. They can always walk out of it as well if you don't have any marks.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 14 2012 21:36 GMT
#6074
Since I started playing Olaf more, and Maokai/Sona less, I feel that need for an initiator. I can't go balls deep and initiate by baiting all of their cc on my ultimate unless I'm super-duper fed, which sometimes happens, but less so recently.
When I see our jungler pick Udyr after I have taken Olaf top, I'm sad and hope our mid/carry can initiate (you can swap stuff around).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 14 2012 21:36 GMT
#6075
lol Snoopeh. xD
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
April 14 2012 21:39 GMT
#6076
Btw is Nyph subbing for Krepo? Am I seeing that right?
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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
April 14 2012 21:51 GMT
#6077
zzz drunk snoopeh is costingg clg the game
Go go Alliance.
Nafaltar
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany302 Posts
April 14 2012 21:51 GMT
#6078
Its fine for them to depend on kennen flash for engages, but Udyr attempting to chase down PD Vayne with Ult+Soraka is just a waste. Sit Udyr on the people trying to dive your carries instead, if anything let lee sin push Vayne out a bit. Udyr can dive great early, but later on its just not going to work anymore if theres any amount of peeling going on.
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
April 14 2012 21:51 GMT
#6079
On April 15 2012 06:39 Doctorbeat wrote:
Btw is Nyph subbing for Krepo? Am I seeing that right?


yes, krepo left after the game vs karnage i think.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#6080
I don't understand how they do this....they're too crazy.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
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