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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
April 10 2012 17:03 GMT
#4881
On April 11 2012 01:52 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 00:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:53 Numy wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
You cant reomve a champ for being weak though. Gets to be WAY too bad a precident. If you remove Eve, do you remove Kat? Do you remove Karma? How bout someone no one plays like Teemo?


I think what he means is remove her from ranked and then buff her so he can still have fun? I don't know sounds dodgy

It just cant work. All those champs are considered weak in ranked. Hell, Soniv STILL gets yelled at for picking viktor. How do you say "X champion is to weak for ranked and picking him is pretty much ensuring that the other team will win."

People would move from demanding eve be removed from ranked to other champs too. When in reality, although Eve IS the only unviable champion in the game, every other champ is perfectly viable. So people would use the one unviable champ to push for the removal of perfectly viable ones.

Only there is no way to PROVE that one champ is unviable while the rest are viable.


Riot has already said that if your team reports you for your champion pick (given that you went for something unusual) it's your fault for not picking something they liked or convincing them otherwise. So yeah, picking anything that isn't FOTM is technically a bannable offense as long as your team is mad about it. No proof needed. Just goes to show how stupid the code can be.


Can't believe this is 100% true as you stated here. Can you provide a source?
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 10 2012 17:11 GMT
#4882
Morg is on your no play list? I mean shes a good champ and all, but you arent going to get shit on by a morg in a lane unless you just suck, her only potential for kills is a hugely slow skillshot. I enjoy laning against morgs.

I wont play certain champs in normals, mostly LB and Kassadin, its just not fair to put them out there without the other team having an opportunity to counter them, and with shitty normal communication people just can handle them. It just a douche move to go into normals and play LB if you dont suck with her, it ruins games.

The only other character I wont play is Vlad. Its obnoxious to lane against him with him healing all the time, no fun skillshots or abilities to watch for. And he's not fun to play at all either, you just QEQEQEQEQE in every situation. He is just not fun or interesting in the slightest.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 10 2012 17:12 GMT
#4883
On April 11 2012 00:47 Requizen wrote:
I assume this might go in the QQ thread, but there are just some champs that I refuse to play because they're gay as fuck to play against and I have too much respect for myself and my fellow players to do that to them. I will never play Trynd, Sion, Zilean, Morg, Rumble, or Shaco in any real amount because every time I see them on the screen it just makes me think, "Well fuck you too guy."

Edit: Oh, and fuck Yorick in top lane too. He's balanced, sure, but too annoying for me to care about balance when talking about.

I remember my friend use to go legendary with Trynd in 80% of the games I played with him. I was like "wow, this champion is fucking stupid."

So after like 2 months, I finally decide to get trynd. 1st game, went 12-0-4. Never touched the champion again.
liftlift > tsm
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
April 10 2012 17:12 GMT
#4884
On April 11 2012 01:52 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 00:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:53 Numy wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
You cant reomve a champ for being weak though. Gets to be WAY too bad a precident. If you remove Eve, do you remove Kat? Do you remove Karma? How bout someone no one plays like Teemo?


I think what he means is remove her from ranked and then buff her so he can still have fun? I don't know sounds dodgy

It just cant work. All those champs are considered weak in ranked. Hell, Soniv STILL gets yelled at for picking viktor. How do you say "X champion is to weak for ranked and picking him is pretty much ensuring that the other team will win."

People would move from demanding eve be removed from ranked to other champs too. When in reality, although Eve IS the only unviable champion in the game, every other champ is perfectly viable. So people would use the one unviable champ to push for the removal of perfectly viable ones.

Only there is no way to PROVE that one champ is unviable while the rest are viable.


Riot has already said ...


Anytime you make this kind of statement, you need to provide the source.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 10 2012 17:12 GMT
#4885
On April 11 2012 02:03 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 01:52 phyvo wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:53 Numy wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
You cant reomve a champ for being weak though. Gets to be WAY too bad a precident. If you remove Eve, do you remove Kat? Do you remove Karma? How bout someone no one plays like Teemo?


I think what he means is remove her from ranked and then buff her so he can still have fun? I don't know sounds dodgy

It just cant work. All those champs are considered weak in ranked. Hell, Soniv STILL gets yelled at for picking viktor. How do you say "X champion is to weak for ranked and picking him is pretty much ensuring that the other team will win."

People would move from demanding eve be removed from ranked to other champs too. When in reality, although Eve IS the only unviable champion in the game, every other champ is perfectly viable. So people would use the one unviable champ to push for the removal of perfectly viable ones.

Only there is no way to PROVE that one champ is unviable while the rest are viable.


Riot has already said that if your team reports you for your champion pick (given that you went for something unusual) it's your fault for not picking something they liked or convincing them otherwise. So yeah, picking anything that isn't FOTM is technically a bannable offense as long as your team is mad about it. No proof needed. Just goes to show how stupid the code can be.


Can't believe this is 100% true as you stated here. Can you provide a source?


I'm afraid I can't quote any reds but I've seen a few threads in the mess that is GD that have been answered this way by general posters pulling information from reds. The amount of agreement between the posters makes the information seem credible to me.

I did put it somewhat bluntly but basically if your whole team is mad at you for going for kill lane rather than AD + support lane and you can't convince them otherwise, they're fully justified in reporting you.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
April 10 2012 17:12 GMT
#4886
On April 11 2012 02:03 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 01:52 phyvo wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:53 Numy wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
You cant reomve a champ for being weak though. Gets to be WAY too bad a precident. If you remove Eve, do you remove Kat? Do you remove Karma? How bout someone no one plays like Teemo?


I think what he means is remove her from ranked and then buff her so he can still have fun? I don't know sounds dodgy

It just cant work. All those champs are considered weak in ranked. Hell, Soniv STILL gets yelled at for picking viktor. How do you say "X champion is to weak for ranked and picking him is pretty much ensuring that the other team will win."

People would move from demanding eve be removed from ranked to other champs too. When in reality, although Eve IS the only unviable champion in the game, every other champ is perfectly viable. So people would use the one unviable champ to push for the removal of perfectly viable ones.

Only there is no way to PROVE that one champ is unviable while the rest are viable.


Riot has already said that if your team reports you for your champion pick (given that you went for something unusual) it's your fault for not picking something they liked or convincing them otherwise. So yeah, picking anything that isn't FOTM is technically a bannable offense as long as your team is mad about it. No proof needed. Just goes to show how stupid the code can be.


Can't believe this is 100% true as you stated here. Can you provide a source?


there have been situations (afaik the SV ban drama was sorta about this) where it's obvious when you are deliberately picking something that is not helpful and there is a reasonable burden on lower picks to cooperate with what the rest of the team is doing. I don't think they said anything about banning something that was unconventional tho, just if like, someone has morg, and states up front that she's going mid then 5th pick picks kat and says 'mid or i feed' kinda shit.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12887 Posts
April 10 2012 17:13 GMT
#4887
Hi guys, I just started lol after getting heavily beaten up from dota2 and saw the cosplay photos of ahri.
currently at level 7, winning 80% of the games, going for recommended items every game and using the free champions.
I almost got my 6000 to buy ahri but now I am wondering if she is worth getting? I can play any kind of champion except for heavy nuker and not so good at hard carry.

Also, is there any substitute when one of the team mate disconnected? Today I played 2 games, one with 2 leavers and one with afk right at the start (he disconnected) and it seems the game just continues without any compensation?
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 10 2012 17:14 GMT
#4888
Wasn't that more along the lines where someone tells you to pick something and you pick something entrely different. Like you need a support so they pick wukong or you need an AD carry so they go okay and pick AD annie simply to untentionally troll you? A lot of the summoners code is intent.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 10 2012 17:16 GMT
#4889
On April 11 2012 02:13 ETisME wrote:
Hi guys, I just started lol after getting heavily beaten up from dota2 and saw the cosplay photos of ahri.
currently at level 7, winning 80% of the games, going for recommended items every game and using the free champions.
I almost got my 6000 to buy ahri but now I am wondering if she is worth getting? I can play any kind of champion except for heavy nuker and not so good at hard carry.

Also, is there any substitute when one of the team mate disconnected? Today I played 2 games, one with 2 leavers and one with afk right at the start (he disconnected) and it seems the game just continues without any compensation?

Hiya, if you're not into nukers and hard carries, then well Ahri's probably not your best bet as she's a pretty good AP Carry.

As for subs, nope. If they leave and don't come back, you're down a man unfortunately. But no worries, the amount of leavers declines as you level up.
God Bless
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 17:51:06
April 10 2012 17:17 GMT
#4890
On April 11 2012 02:13 ETisME wrote:
Hi guys, I just started lol after getting heavily beaten up from dota2 and saw the cosplay photos of ahri.
currently at level 7, winning 80% of the games, going for recommended items every game and using the free champions.
I almost got my 6000 to buy ahri but now I am wondering if she is worth getting? I can play any kind of champion except for heavy nuker and not so good at hard carry.

Also, is there any substitute when one of the team mate disconnected? Today I played 2 games, one with 2 leavers and one with afk right at the start (he disconnected) and it seems the game just continues without any compensation?


Ahri is fun and a highly competitive pick right now. Not really your 1-hit KO nuker and somewhat reliant on skillshots so you'll most likely enjoy playing her. That said she's definitely a nuker carry, but I feel like that shouldn't be a problem really. A carry in dota and a carry in LoL play out differently.

No if there is a leaver you're just going to have to deal with it, and report them after the game.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 10 2012 17:19 GMT
#4891
On April 11 2012 02:13 ETisME wrote:
Hi guys, I just started lol after getting heavily beaten up from dota2 and saw the cosplay photos of ahri.
currently at level 7, winning 80% of the games, going for recommended items every game and using the free champions.
I almost got my 6000 to buy ahri but now I am wondering if she is worth getting? I can play any kind of champion except for heavy nuker and not so good at hard carry.

Also, is there any substitute when one of the team mate disconnected? Today I played 2 games, one with 2 leavers and one with afk right at the start (he disconnected) and it seems the game just continues without any compensation?


Well Ahri is a burst caster, so know that. Have you played her? Don't spend 6300 on a champ you havent tried at least a few games.

That said she is considered a top tier pick and is all around very very strong, so she is a good choice if you enjoy her.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
April 10 2012 17:25 GMT
#4892
On April 11 2012 02:11 sob3k wrote:
Morg is on your no play list? I mean shes a good champ and all, but you arent going to get shit on by a morg in a lane unless you just suck, her only potential for kills is a hugely slow skillshot. I enjoy laning against morgs.

I wont play certain champs in normals, mostly LB and Kassadin, its just not fair to put them out there without the other team having an opportunity to counter them, and with shitty normal communication people just can handle them. It just a douche move to go into normals and play LB if you dont suck with her, it ruins games.

The only other character I wont play is Vlad. Its obnoxious to lane against him with him healing all the time, no fun skillshots or abilities to watch for. And he's not fun to play at all either, you just QEQEQEQEQE in every situation. He is just not fun or interesting in the slightest.

how does winning ruin the game, i dont understand?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 10 2012 17:25 GMT
#4893
On April 11 2012 02:12 BlasiuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 01:52 phyvo wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:53 Numy wrote:
On April 11 2012 00:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
You cant reomve a champ for being weak though. Gets to be WAY too bad a precident. If you remove Eve, do you remove Kat? Do you remove Karma? How bout someone no one plays like Teemo?


I think what he means is remove her from ranked and then buff her so he can still have fun? I don't know sounds dodgy

It just cant work. All those champs are considered weak in ranked. Hell, Soniv STILL gets yelled at for picking viktor. How do you say "X champion is to weak for ranked and picking him is pretty much ensuring that the other team will win."

People would move from demanding eve be removed from ranked to other champs too. When in reality, although Eve IS the only unviable champion in the game, every other champ is perfectly viable. So people would use the one unviable champ to push for the removal of perfectly viable ones.

Only there is no way to PROVE that one champ is unviable while the rest are viable.


Riot has already said ...


Anytime you make this kind of statement, you need to provide the source.


summoner's code
1. Support Your Team
...Being a good team player begins at champion select. Be open minded when considering the needs of your team. If you’re the last one to pick, try to fill a niche in your team that hasn’t already been filled. If everyone’s picked and something stands out as a deficiency in your team composition, try asking for another player to fill the gap, or change roles to embrace that responsibility yourself. Remember, that by taking on a role you don’t normally play, you’ll learn more about unfamiliar champions and increase your own skill level....
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 10 2012 17:26 GMT
#4894
I have read red posts that have stated that you can get reported and banned for playing shit your team doesnt want you to play.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 10 2012 17:28 GMT
#4895
On April 11 2012 02:25 storkfan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 02:11 sob3k wrote:
Morg is on your no play list? I mean shes a good champ and all, but you arent going to get shit on by a morg in a lane unless you just suck, her only potential for kills is a hugely slow skillshot. I enjoy laning against morgs.

I wont play certain champs in normals, mostly LB and Kassadin, its just not fair to put them out there without the other team having an opportunity to counter them, and with shitty normal communication people just can handle them. It just a douche move to go into normals and play LB if you dont suck with her, it ruins games.

The only other character I wont play is Vlad. Its obnoxious to lane against him with him healing all the time, no fun skillshots or abilities to watch for. And he's not fun to play at all either, you just QEQEQEQEQE in every situation. He is just not fun or interesting in the slightest.

how does winning ruin the game, i dont understand?

it's boring
playing vlad ruins the game for your lane opponent
games aren't about winning
it's about having fun

playing vlad => guaranteed no fun for at least 2 people, possibly more
unless you're one of those kids who only cares about winning and if so i feel bad for you
:)
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 17:30:08
April 10 2012 17:29 GMT
#4896
Soraka, Nunu or Janna EVERY GAME. IT'S SO FUN!

/s
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 10 2012 17:30 GMT
#4897
On April 11 2012 02:28 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 02:25 storkfan wrote:
On April 11 2012 02:11 sob3k wrote:
Morg is on your no play list? I mean shes a good champ and all, but you arent going to get shit on by a morg in a lane unless you just suck, her only potential for kills is a hugely slow skillshot. I enjoy laning against morgs.

I wont play certain champs in normals, mostly LB and Kassadin, its just not fair to put them out there without the other team having an opportunity to counter them, and with shitty normal communication people just can handle them. It just a douche move to go into normals and play LB if you dont suck with her, it ruins games.

The only other character I wont play is Vlad. Its obnoxious to lane against him with him healing all the time, no fun skillshots or abilities to watch for. And he's not fun to play at all either, you just QEQEQEQEQE in every situation. He is just not fun or interesting in the slightest.

how does winning ruin the game, i dont understand?

it's boring
playing vlad ruins the game for your lane opponent
games aren't about winning
it's about having fun

playing vlad => guaranteed no fun for at least 2 people, possibly more
unless you're one of those kids who only cares about winning and if so i feel bad for you

Yar. The whole point of playing lol is to put yourself in horrible situations and try to win anyway.

Its why I play with Tapiocaball.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
April 10 2012 17:33 GMT
#4898
On April 11 2012 02:28 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 02:25 storkfan wrote:
On April 11 2012 02:11 sob3k wrote:
Morg is on your no play list? I mean shes a good champ and all, but you arent going to get shit on by a morg in a lane unless you just suck, her only potential for kills is a hugely slow skillshot. I enjoy laning against morgs.

I wont play certain champs in normals, mostly LB and Kassadin, its just not fair to put them out there without the other team having an opportunity to counter them, and with shitty normal communication people just can handle them. It just a douche move to go into normals and play LB if you dont suck with her, it ruins games.

The only other character I wont play is Vlad. Its obnoxious to lane against him with him healing all the time, no fun skillshots or abilities to watch for. And he's not fun to play at all either, you just QEQEQEQEQE in every situation. He is just not fun or interesting in the slightest.

how does winning ruin the game, i dont understand?

it's boring
playing vlad ruins the game for your lane opponent
games aren't about winning
it's about having fun

playing vlad => guaranteed no fun for at least 2 people, possibly more
unless you're one of those kids who only cares about winning and if so i feel bad for you


I like laning against Vlad...
=O
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 10 2012 17:33 GMT
#4899
On April 11 2012 02:33 Shifft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 02:28 unichan wrote:
On April 11 2012 02:25 storkfan wrote:
On April 11 2012 02:11 sob3k wrote:
Morg is on your no play list? I mean shes a good champ and all, but you arent going to get shit on by a morg in a lane unless you just suck, her only potential for kills is a hugely slow skillshot. I enjoy laning against morgs.

I wont play certain champs in normals, mostly LB and Kassadin, its just not fair to put them out there without the other team having an opportunity to counter them, and with shitty normal communication people just can handle them. It just a douche move to go into normals and play LB if you dont suck with her, it ruins games.

The only other character I wont play is Vlad. Its obnoxious to lane against him with him healing all the time, no fun skillshots or abilities to watch for. And he's not fun to play at all either, you just QEQEQEQEQE in every situation. He is just not fun or interesting in the slightest.

how does winning ruin the game, i dont understand?

it's boring
playing vlad ruins the game for your lane opponent
games aren't about winning
it's about having fun

playing vlad => guaranteed no fun for at least 2 people, possibly more
unless you're one of those kids who only cares about winning and if so i feel bad for you


I like laning against Vlad...

well you're weird
go away you fkn weirdo
:)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 17:36:27
April 10 2012 17:34 GMT
#4900
It's why I voluntarily made an entire team revolving around putting Tap in charge of all ingame calls. Real challenge.

And now gandhi is plat, and rhav, soniv, and T_D are all 1700-1800. See, it works!
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
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