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Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
March 31 2012 01:04 GMT
#2561
Holy fucking balls. Just learned jax can press E and go invincible for entire fiora ult then smack her to death as soon as she pops out with a full counter strike.


That's so much bs.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
March 31 2012 01:07 GMT
#2562
Fiora actually loses to a lot of people in lane if the other person plays right. The thing is, Fiora can punish mistakes hard.
Ravomat
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany422 Posts
March 31 2012 01:08 GMT
#2563
On March 31 2012 09:52 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 09:35 ManyCookies wrote:
Alright I'm bored. If there was one (reasonably narrow) lesson that every LoL player would have and utilize, what would you have it be? Like last hitting, map awareness, positioning, etc.


How to last hit...

People don't seem to understand how to last hit at tower half the time. When I support AD carrys that are just awful, I want to go afk. Its really not hard:

2 tower hits+AA for melee minion
1 tower+AA for caster

^Usually how it goes down anyway. Might need to groom them a bit, but thank god I play Janna. Pop shield on them and they should have little to no excuse for not getting every minion.


When you just have 0 or 1 dorans, 1 tower hit + 1 attack isn't enough for a caster minion to die. Usually you need to hit them once then wait for the tower to hit and finish it off. The first step is something you can do as a support. Just a little help to get into the game, you know.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 01:09:58
March 31 2012 01:09 GMT
#2564
People seem to love flat ad runes for the specific purpose of last hitting under turrets. Thats why generally people say it takes 1 hit + turret hit to last hit a caster minion.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 31 2012 01:10 GMT
#2565
On March 31 2012 10:09 dignity wrote:
People seem to love flat ad runes for the specific purpose of last hitting under turrets. Thats why generally people say it takes 1 hit + turret hit to last hit a caster minion.

It doesn't even with AD runes, though.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 31 2012 01:11 GMT
#2566
On March 31 2012 09:48 epoc wrote:
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On March 31 2012 09:11 Shikyo wrote:
On March 31 2012 08:15 epoc wrote:
Nasus beats olaf

Played Nasus vs Olaf once and basically... You can't outheal his E harrass and he can just kill you after 6 as soon as he hits an axe and you are around midway through the lane. You get denied starting from about lvl 5.


Actually with defense masteries health regen quints and the innate lifesteal you're back from 20% in one wave of minions at tower. Meanwhile olaf has damaged himself by using e. This has happened to me many times. I've lost vs nasus in many games where I first blooded him


dont push him to tower, you have no need to last hit as nasus needs farm more than you, for every cs you deny you can miss a cs yourself. just zone nasus out all game.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
March 31 2012 01:11 GMT
#2567
Well it depends on what champion you are playing. Mages can't last hit castor minions in 1 hit. Bruisers generally can because they have a higher base.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 31 2012 01:14 GMT
#2568
On March 31 2012 10:11 dignity wrote:
Well it depends on what champion you are playing. Mages can't last hit castor minions in 1 hit. Bruisers generally can because they have a higher base.


You sure about this? I've played lots of pantheon + doran's blade starts and I can't do it for most of the early game, that's while running all flat ad reds and quints.
Remember Violet.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
March 31 2012 01:17 GMT
#2569
You don't do it early, but you do it pretty quick once you get items. The whole crack about people saying it's tower hit + 1 hit has NOTHING to do with AD runes and everything to do with the fact that AD champs will naturally get enough AD through items and levels to do it after a short amount of game time.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 01:23:56
March 31 2012 01:22 GMT
#2570
On March 31 2012 10:11 dignity wrote:
Well it depends on what champion you are playing. Mages can't last hit castor minions in 1 hit. Bruisers generally can because they have a higher base.

I really wonder what can, then. Even poppy cannot with max stacks on W with 8.5 AD from runes. Maybe Tryndamere can and Gangplank with E active but it's an exception, not a rule.


BTW How does Mundo do vs Olaf solo toplane?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 01:45:48
March 31 2012 01:45 GMT
#2571
On March 31 2012 10:22 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:11 dignity wrote:
Well it depends on what champion you are playing. Mages can't last hit castor minions in 1 hit. Bruisers generally can because they have a higher base.

I really wonder what can, then. Even poppy cannot with max stacks on W with 8.5 AD from runes. Maybe Tryndamere can and Gangplank with E active but it's an exception, not a rule.


BTW How does Mundo do vs Olaf solo toplane?


Really skillshot dependent, it's a coinflip in my opinion.

As in you both throw knives and whoever does it better wins.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
March 31 2012 04:01 GMT
#2572
On March 31 2012 03:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On March 31 2012 03:45 Gaslo wrote:
One thing i really hate in lol is the time it takes for teams to set up scrims/games. Like i have played semi competitive team games, and games usually went like Find the people you play against/set up a time to play. Give server information, join server, play. 5minutes. When i watch lol, it seems it takes over an hour to get one game going on. It's not a big deal, but i think many teams could fit a LOT more practice in, if there were less waiting.


Everyone fucking hates this with a passion. The time between tournament games (say at IEM or IPL, for example) is pretty annoying sometimes.

Scrims? f'ing A, how hard is it to get 10 people seated at the same time so picks/bans can begin?

/slit wrists


This is pure terror mode
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 31 2012 04:14 GMT
#2573
On March 31 2012 10:14 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:11 dignity wrote:
Well it depends on what champion you are playing. Mages can't last hit castor minions in 1 hit. Bruisers generally can because they have a higher base.


You sure about this? I've played lots of pantheon + doran's blade starts and I can't do it for most of the early game, that's while running all flat ad reds and quints.


... you are surely exaggerating because i run AD reds + 2 AD quints on all my tops and from level 2 onward i can 1-shot creeps under my own tower after 1 tower-hit. unless pantheon has a much lower base AD than i remember (just checked - he does. his base AD is like 2-7 points lower than most of the other tops i play)

never mind carry on
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
March 31 2012 05:11 GMT
#2574
i dont know whats wrong with ym farming,i always get under level.What do i do when i am under leveled?
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 31 2012 05:24 GMT
#2575
On March 31 2012 14:11 justiceknight wrote:
i dont know whats wrong with ym farming,i always get under level.What do i do when i am under leveled?

always stand in range of minion XP. also try not to miss Cannon creep xp and deny and zone their xp if possible
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
March 31 2012 05:28 GMT
#2576
On March 31 2012 14:24 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 14:11 justiceknight wrote:
i dont know whats wrong with ym farming,i always get under level.What do i do when i am under leveled?

always stand in range of minion XP. also try not to miss Cannon creep xp and deny and zone their xp if possible


wats cannons creep?
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 31 2012 05:33 GMT
#2577
On March 31 2012 14:28 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 14:24 Kenpachi wrote:
On March 31 2012 14:11 justiceknight wrote:
i dont know whats wrong with ym farming,i always get under level.What do i do when i am under leveled?

always stand in range of minion XP. also try not to miss Cannon creep xp and deny and zone their xp if possible


wats cannons creep?


the really big guy
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 05:40:10
March 31 2012 05:39 GMT
#2578
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 31 2012 06:11 GMT
#2579
On March 31 2012 14:28 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 14:24 Kenpachi wrote:
On March 31 2012 14:11 justiceknight wrote:
i dont know whats wrong with ym farming,i always get under level.What do i do when i am under leveled?

always stand in range of minion XP. also try not to miss Cannon creep xp and deny and zone their xp if possible


wats cannons creep?

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Remember Violet.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
March 31 2012 06:59 GMT
#2580
I hate the cannon minion with a burning passion. I always miss to kill him.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
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