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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
March 30 2012 22:38 GMT
#2541
Cassio is a nice skillshot/conditional based champ. Very intersting dueling & teamfighting mechanics and has a lot of potential for carrying games.
Ahri is strong and a lot of people seem to enjoy her, I don't like playing her but her ult allows for nice plays.
Ziggs is incredibly fun to play, and is entirely skillshot based. His ult is a blast.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 30 2012 22:43 GMT
#2542
does olaf lose to anyone?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 30 2012 22:45 GMT
#2543
Kennen beats Olaf .-.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 30 2012 22:45 GMT
#2544
On March 31 2012 07:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
does olaf lose to anyone?


Swain stomps on Olaf and laughs at his slowly struggling past CC while losing health.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 30 2012 23:04 GMT
#2545
On March 31 2012 07:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
does olaf lose to anyone?


Shen, Swain, Kennen, Lee Sin and maybe Yorick? He's a really strong laner with inbuilt sustain and high damage vs anyone who goes melee.
Remember Violet.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 30 2012 23:07 GMT
#2546
On March 31 2012 08:04 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 07:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
does olaf lose to anyone?


Shen, Swain, Kennen, Lee Sin and maybe Yorick? He's a really strong laner with inbuilt sustain and high damage vs anyone who goes melee.


I would differ on Lee Sin, but Olaf is just exceptionally weak to any form of ranged harass and any player who is smart enough to dodge his axe throw and juke when necessary;
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 30 2012 23:09 GMT
#2547
Lee Sin has an infinite resource ranged poke and free shield to shrug off Olaf's Es that also gives him sustain (Olaf Es you when you go to last hit so it's literally the perfect time for it). He also has a slow if Olaf goes chase mode and he's really maneuverable, all things Olaf struggles against unless he wants to pop ghost.

Oh, Teemo probably stomps on Olaf, too, but then you have Teemo on your team.
Remember Violet.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 30 2012 23:12 GMT
#2548
Can't Udyr shield his E then outdps him, too? Or would it be too mana-intensive?

Also, I often have this when I report people, where the pop-up will tell me a report has been sent, but the button to report the person won't turn to gray. Does someone know if the report still goes, or if I'm screwed? That'd be annoying, as it makes up more than half the occurences when I report somebody (had my first troll, didn't like one guy that was on his team the previous day, picked surge/promote Jax and went 0-18).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
March 30 2012 23:13 GMT
#2549
AD Janna rapes olaf
Xerath, Ahri, Brand, Cait, etc.. don't need to send a bruiser vs Olaf -.-
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epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
March 30 2012 23:15 GMT
#2550
Nasus beats olaf
Glaceau
Profile Joined February 2012
Wales333 Posts
March 30 2012 23:18 GMT
#2551
taric beats olaf
Cmon, swing it
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 30 2012 23:19 GMT
#2552
On March 31 2012 08:15 epoc wrote:
Nasus beats olaf


If Olaf goes afk sure.
Hey! How you doin'?
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 30 2012 23:31 GMT
#2553
On March 31 2012 08:15 epoc wrote:
Nasus beats olaf


if he trades his e's with you you basically have to q him to stop him just crapping on you. then you get no q farm just to survive, and as soon as you fall behind on nasus its even harder than a normal champ to fight back in. so no, nasus doesnt beat olaf
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
March 31 2012 00:04 GMT
#2554
did anyone else just DC'ed from their game? I was DCed and now i can suddenly queue again lol. right in the middle of a game
Best Teemo World
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 31 2012 00:11 GMT
#2555
On March 31 2012 08:15 epoc wrote:
Nasus beats olaf

Played Nasus vs Olaf once and basically... You can't outheal his E harrass and he can just kill you after 6 as soon as he hits an axe and you are around midway through the lane. You get denied starting from about lvl 5.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 00:35:42
March 31 2012 00:35 GMT
#2556
Alright I'm bored. If there was one (reasonably narrow) lesson that every LoL player would have and utilize, what would you have it be? Like last hitting, map awareness, positioning, etc.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 00:39:05
March 31 2012 00:38 GMT
#2557
On March 31 2012 09:35 ManyCookies wrote:
Alright I'm bored. If there was one (reasonably narrow) lesson that every LoL player would have and utilize, what would you have it be? Like last hitting, map awareness, positioning, etc.


How to purchase and place a ward.

Alternatively, tower last-hitting and the rhythm you need to do it properly.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
March 31 2012 00:48 GMT
#2558
On March 31 2012 09:11 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 08:15 epoc wrote:
Nasus beats olaf

Played Nasus vs Olaf once and basically... You can't outheal his E harrass and he can just kill you after 6 as soon as he hits an axe and you are around midway through the lane. You get denied starting from about lvl 5.


Actually with defense masteries health regen quints and the innate lifesteal you're back from 20% in one wave of minions at tower. Meanwhile olaf has damaged himself by using e. This has happened to me many times. I've lost vs nasus in many games where I first blooded him
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 31 2012 00:52 GMT
#2559
On March 31 2012 09:35 ManyCookies wrote:
Alright I'm bored. If there was one (reasonably narrow) lesson that every LoL player would have and utilize, what would you have it be? Like last hitting, map awareness, positioning, etc.


How to last hit...

People don't seem to understand how to last hit at tower half the time. When I support AD carrys that are just awful, I want to go afk. Its really not hard:

2 tower hits+AA for melee minion
1 tower+AA for caster

^Usually how it goes down anyway. Might need to groom them a bit, but thank god I play Janna. Pop shield on them and they should have little to no excuse for not getting every minion.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 01:05:21
March 31 2012 01:00 GMT
#2560
Man, I know Katarina sucks and all but somehow scarra makes her seem OP time after time. At 2500 elo.

On March 31 2012 09:48 epoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 09:11 Shikyo wrote:
On March 31 2012 08:15 epoc wrote:
Nasus beats olaf

Played Nasus vs Olaf once and basically... You can't outheal his E harrass and he can just kill you after 6 as soon as he hits an axe and you are around midway through the lane. You get denied starting from about lvl 5.


Actually with defense masteries health regen quints and the innate lifesteal you're back from 20% in one wave of minions at tower. Meanwhile olaf has damaged himself by using e. This has happened to me many times. I've lost vs nasus in many games where I first blooded him

Yeah you can farm at tower but olaf sustains just fine with W. You're going to be like 20-30 minions behind by 10min during the time that he denies you away from the tower and again, he can allin you very easy if you aren't next to a tower and you can't do a thing about him.

On March 31 2012 09:52 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 09:35 ManyCookies wrote:
Alright I'm bored. If there was one (reasonably narrow) lesson that every LoL player would have and utilize, what would you have it be? Like last hitting, map awareness, positioning, etc.


How to last hit...

People don't seem to understand how to last hit at tower half the time. When I support AD carrys that are just awful, I want to go afk. Its really not hard:

2 tower hits+AA for melee minion
1 tower+AA for caster

^Usually how it goes down anyway. Might need to groom them a bit, but thank god I play Janna. Pop shield on them and they should have little to no excuse for not getting every minion.

2 autos needed for ranged. After about 10min if you don't have additional dmg you will need 2 autos for melee as well. After you get wriggles or double dorans and have full AD runes you are generally able to 1-hit ranged for pretty much the rest of the lane


When you have enemy ranged minions, look at your incoming creep wave and guess which minion they will attack. I see even top pros at 2400 elo do this incorrectly. They will hit the ranged minion once in preparation but then their own minion wave damages them and then they get killed by the turret. They would have gotten the lasthit if they just left that single ranged minion alone and only hit the others once.

These very simple things can let you earn even 500 gold during the course of a game. Adds up.
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