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While this thread is labeled "DotA2", this is in fact a community thread first. Many of the users in the TL LoL subforum have been playing as friends for over a year now, so it makes logical sense that they would want to play other games together.

Do not compare DotA2 to LoL, you will get banned.

TL LoL veterans know what is expected. Newcomers be warned.

gl hf
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
August 09 2013 01:15 GMT
#761
I pin that game on putting daedelus on the bear instead of on sylla
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 09 2013 01:16 GMT
#762
fighting in enemy base in dota 2 with highground mechanics and other things is a completely different scenario then in league of legends
also saying that dk was significantly ahead isnt too accurate either, it was actually on a knifes edge and both teams knew it as seen by the over-the-top safe play by either side
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 09 2013 01:18 GMT
#763
I understand how highground works, which is exactly why Sylla is one of the best for breaking high ground, you only put the bear in danger and get as much damage on the tower as you can, then you turtle when you don't have a re summon available.

Instead DK chose to wait only for aegis.
Carrilord has arrived.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 09 2013 01:26 GMT
#764
well also dont forget the first 40 minutes of the game was weaver sitting top and threatening rax forcing dk to waste tons of time coming to chase him away and disrupted their 5 manning
around that time the carries on IG were also more ahead in terms of items, burning on the druid only caught up because the game went so long
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 09 2013 01:33 GMT
#765
The game was fairly even-ish before the fights that led to DK getting 2 lanes rax. DK had the direct teamfight advantage, but IG kept up on gold and had the lane pressure advantage. Saying DK could just end before then is just not true, because DK gets counter-raxed if they try to push through 1 lane, and being a rax down hurts DK's teamcomp more than IG's.

DK got a major advantage raxing 2 lanes, which was totally nullified by the rapier.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 09 2013 01:46 GMT
#766
I guess I misjudged the game because I wanted DK to win so bad.
Carrilord has arrived.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 09 2013 01:48 GMT
#767
i do too, by the looks of this 3rd game we wont be disappointed

knock on wood
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 09 2013 02:23 GMT
#768
Thank god LD
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 09 2013 03:10 GMT
#769
I love when the team I'm rooting for gets wisp
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 09 2013 05:28 GMT
#770
YES!
Carrilord has arrived.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 09 2013 05:29 GMT
#771
holy fuck TL #1

Bulba MVP 110%
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
August 09 2013 05:51 GMT
#772
I hope LD and Lumi get to cast some semifinal games and possibly the finals. Favorite casting pair by far, the other 2 pairs sound too much like generic casters.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 09 2013 05:53 GMT
#773
I agree

LD+Lumi are the best.
Carrilord has arrived.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
August 09 2013 06:33 GMT
#774
this morphling (Zhou I think) is playing so well. that waveform to kill rax and replicate out was sick.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 09 2013 23:42 GMT
#775
It's somewhat depressing to me that the DotA 2 for LoL Players guide gets more action than this thread.
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 00:06:09
August 10 2013 00:03 GMT
#776
On August 10 2013 08:42 TheYango wrote:
It's somewhat depressing to me that the DotA 2 for LoL Players guide gets more action than this thread.


I used the search on that found this

+ Show Spoiler +
IV. Dota is exciting.

I played League for a long time. I played long enough ago to have played AD carry mid when it was standard (gogo LoL hipster status!), but also played AP carry mid, ADC bot, Jungle while Olaf was king of the jungle, and support because I knew what a good support looked like. I got to a point, though, that a lot of League players get to. Half my games were exactly twenty minutes long, some of those depressing onesided stomps where my 0/8 mid heimerdinger is constructing a population sign in our fountain, or others pentakill cockblocks where I'm 50cs and 3 kills ahead, but deprived the rest of my game because my opponents are allowed to opt out of their punishment for poor play. Sometimes, we'd flirt with 25 minute games, where it wasn't -really- solidified until we lost that last teamfight and a tower in the process. About one in ten games was actually a nailbitingly close game where I could try predict the outcome after 15 minutes of play, but do so with no confidence whatsoever. Those games were awesome.

Dota has its shit games too. The difference here is... well, we just finished talking about the differences. There is no surrender (we didn't talk about that), and the potentially extreme power of Dota heroes means that there is quite possibly a single hero on your team that you originally didn't expect to win you the game, but now four members of your team are nailbitinly huddled at your tier 3 towers to defend against their incoming push while your hero Furion with a shadowblade safely pushes their top lane. Or when your top barracks are down, but your position 5 is stacking the ancient camp while the other three heroes act as mobile wards for your position 1 ultracarry medusa farms bottom lane and jungle in an effort to collect a Divine Rapier to add to her Linkin's sphere, Satanic, and Manta style so you can win one final teamfight and go base 'em.

It's exciting, and what makes it exciting is that as long as your allies can communicate and are willing to cooperate, NO game is lost. You don't get the feeling you will in League where you're playing support and you discover that your ADC actually has the lasthitting skills of a sack of dead rodents... you know, that sinking feeling where you hang your head in shame and type “Surrender at 20” in all chat, because you -know- that there's no accounting for incompetence on the part of your carry?

In Dota, if that happens, you just start fucking taking farm, announce to your team that your Antimage is actually the worst at farming, tell him to play cautiously, farm the jungle and do not build farming items because the game will NOT last the 2 hours it would take him to get 6 slotted. Basically, you promote yourself from a position 5 to a position 3, demote him from a position 1 to a position 3, and carry on with life. OBVIOUSLY be VERY VERY SURE you know what the fuck you're talking about, because demoting an antimage to position 3 is kinda like telling your ADC to build warmogs in League... except slightly more viable. That said, I've literally had a game where I, as the position 5 Crystal Maiden only pulling and stacking at appropriate times and otherwise babysitting an AntiMage, accidentally outfarmed the AntiMage 61 CS to 58 in a 32 minute game. That's -brutal-.

So there's always something you can be doing in Dota, and if you lose, it is because there were things you could have been doing, but did not do, EVEN in cases where your mid feeds 3 kills inside 12 minutes. Dota is fascinating, and a game isn't lost until your buildings are dead.


This made me think about the author: "No, you do NOT know what you're talking about at the LoL part"

I wish that I found this article before this weekend. I don't know if it's worth it because I stopped reading after this paragraph.

*Pudge looks like Madlife playing pre-nerfs Blitzcrank on speed.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 10 2013 00:11 GMT
#777
On August 10 2013 08:42 TheYango wrote:
It's somewhat depressing to me that the DotA 2 for LoL Players guide gets more action than this thread.

You may be happy (or sad) to see that the last page of that guide has DotA 2 puns.

It's also seems to be populated by DotA 2 players who just want to correct the guide and don't actually play LoL.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 10 2013 00:21 GMT
#778
Looks like Madlife plays Dota2 too.
God Bless
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 00:28:11
August 10 2013 00:24 GMT
#779
God is omnipresent
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I don't understand anything that is happening at DotA but this play-by-play caster is awesome. I wish we had someone like this at Worlds and not Rivington. This guy is even better than Deman and Joe "Joe Miller" Miller combined.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 10 2013 00:33 GMT
#780
On August 10 2013 08:42 TheYango wrote:
It's somewhat depressing to me that the DotA 2 for LoL Players guide gets more action than this thread.


I was hoping that this thread would go full LR because it was nixed in GD, but you get bored after your 2nd triple post.
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