[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 81

On March 07 2012 14:30 Ryrk wrote:


That's not exactly what I mean when I say "get past tanks". Champions like Ezreal or Corki can quickly hop over a wall to try and peel the tank while still being able to do some amount of damage using their skills, which are all on a relatively low CD. Kennen's dash is not a blink, and therefore more riskier as well as takes a longer time to reposition himself accordingly. It's better in open fights, but jungle fights around Baron and Dragon happen much more often than fights directly in the middle of the map.

And as stated previously, Lightning Rush's biggest drawback is that it's just a movespeed increase, but does provide a decent boost to armor/mr. Nevertheless, it makes him more vulnerable to being permaslowed, and being stunned while inside lightning rush is a lot worse than being stunned after a blink/dash. I'd rather have a blink/dash that's present on pretty much every other AD carry rather than a simple movespeed increase, which is a lot more risky in terms of what you can do with it. Getting caught in lane/open areas is a lot more preventable than getting caught in smaller area, such as the jungle.

Also his stun is 1 second...and has diminishing returns. When pretty much every tank is running 21 defense and mercs, do you REALLY think that's going to be a big role in stopping them?

On March 07 2012 14:54 Synystyr wrote:
Random, did you guys know that you can see enemy wards inside the vision of an enemy who has the Cait trap debuff? Can be kind of useful bot lane to pick off lane bush wards, just place a trap where an enemy ward is and kill it when someone steps on the trap if given the chance.

On March 07 2012 14:39 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:

edit: how much of a difference do AS marks make compared to AD marks on single target junglers like jax and xin?

On March 07 2012 18:54 Shiv. wrote:

Due to Jax' new passive, I'd argue he's one of the junglers who need AS marks the least. On a lot of other popular junglers (Udyr, Shyv, Mao, Noc, Xin instantly come to mind), they're pretty much mandatory, though. You can easily clear your jungle without them, but you'll be faster and hence safer if you do use them.

If you're stuck with AD marks for the time being, I'd suggest giving Lee Sin a shot. You can run him +15 AD on runes or a mixture of AD and ArP and it works like a charm. Reasons being his passive that gives him AS for the next 2 attacks everytime he uses a spell and his still very decent AD scaling.