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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 07:13:22
March 05 2012 07:13 GMT
#1221
On March 05 2012 16:05 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 16:00 gtrsrs wrote:
On March 05 2012 15:59 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
On March 05 2012 15:50 Terranasaur wrote:
Based on that you can see how having a character that can absorb damage and lower enemy damage output is extremely useful.

But that only works if the enemy team focuses the tank or he's disruptive. Guess it'd work if the enemy were afraid of moving forward to focus a squishier target.


that's why all the good tanks in lol are disruptive... there's no tank that just tanks damage and doesn't CC or anything lol



Exactly. At the very least a tank calls damage onto himself (Rammus, Shen) or stuns/roots/slows/fears/silences you or something so you cant put out at much damage.


Warmog Teemo
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 05 2012 07:14 GMT
#1222
On March 05 2012 16:13 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 16:05 Terranasaur wrote:
On March 05 2012 16:00 gtrsrs wrote:
On March 05 2012 15:59 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
On March 05 2012 15:50 Terranasaur wrote:
Based on that you can see how having a character that can absorb damage and lower enemy damage output is extremely useful.

But that only works if the enemy team focuses the tank or he's disruptive. Guess it'd work if the enemy were afraid of moving forward to focus a squishier target.


that's why all the good tanks in lol are disruptive... there's no tank that just tanks damage and doesn't CC or anything lol



Exactly. At the very least a tank calls damage onto himself (Rammus, Shen) or stuns/roots/slows/fears/silences you or something so you cant put out at much damage.


Warmog Teemo

OMFG I DON'T CARE IF HE IS THE TANK. FOCUS TEEMO! I FUCKING HATE HIS MUSHROOMS!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 05 2012 07:17 GMT
#1223
I think what we really need is a long discussion about what is and is not a tank.

Could go on for four, five pages.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
March 05 2012 07:20 GMT
#1224
On March 05 2012 15:19 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Edit: Oh. You mean self-SMARTcast. Yeah that one sucks. And I suck at reading comprehension. :/

Right. Self-cast and smart-cast are both incredibly useful independently.
twitch.tv/cratonz
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 05 2012 07:28 GMT
#1225
Yo my tanky AP teemo went i think 7-0-8. Shit's legit. They'll chase you all day and you'll never die. Strongest taunt in the game.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 07:56:10
March 05 2012 07:55 GMT
#1226
On March 05 2012 16:28 BlackPaladin wrote:
Yo my tanky AP teemo went i think 7-0-8. Shit's legit. They'll chase you all day and you'll never die. Strongest taunt in the game.


Something about teemo makes people want to dive him so hard...

I don't really know what it is, but you certainly don't dive a champ like Nautilus near as much.

Speaking of which, certain champs just are disgustingly more intimidating than others. For example, it just feels much more natural to shoot at THE BIG FRIGGEN BEAR(!!) than the Vayne in pink cosplay even though it the chick with the love letter that gonna kill your whole team.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
March 05 2012 07:57 GMT
#1227
On March 05 2012 16:20 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 15:19 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Edit: Oh. You mean self-SMARTcast. Yeah that one sucks. And I suck at reading comprehension. :/

Right. Self-cast and smart-cast are both incredibly useful independently.


Lol self-smartcast is by nature just designed to fuck you up in 'oh-shit' situations since that's where you mess up targeting with your mouse pointer XD
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 08:24:14
March 05 2012 08:23 GMT
#1228
On March 05 2012 16:55 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 16:28 BlackPaladin wrote:
Yo my tanky AP teemo went i think 7-0-8. Shit's legit. They'll chase you all day and you'll never die. Strongest taunt in the game.


Something about teemo makes people want to dive him so hard...

I don't really know what it is, but you certainly don't dive a champ like Nautilus near as much.

Speaking of which, certain champs just are disgustingly more intimidating than others. For example, it just feels much more natural to shoot at THE BIG FRIGGEN BEAR(!!) than the Vayne in pink cosplay even though it the chick with the love letter that gonna kill your whole team.


One time I saw this Volibear get one shot at level 1 by a Soraka. She leveled R first but had 180 AD anyways.

Edit: But that may have not been what happened, I was level 2 ganking on Blitz and didn't actually see it happen.

Edit#2: But it was just for my amusement so it may be a total lie.

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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 08:24:00
March 05 2012 08:23 GMT
#1229
anyone notice the mogs in atmogs is becoming less popular? a month ago i've seen soo many warmogs, but now it's pretty rare, except with on volibear/shen/mundo.

do you think this had to do with mogs nerf?
liftlift > tsm
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 05 2012 08:26 GMT
#1230
On March 05 2012 17:23 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 16:55 iCanada wrote:
On March 05 2012 16:28 BlackPaladin wrote:
Yo my tanky AP teemo went i think 7-0-8. Shit's legit. They'll chase you all day and you'll never die. Strongest taunt in the game.


Something about teemo makes people want to dive him so hard...

I don't really know what it is, but you certainly don't dive a champ like Nautilus near as much.

Speaking of which, certain champs just are disgustingly more intimidating than others. For example, it just feels much more natural to shoot at THE BIG FRIGGEN BEAR(!!) than the Vayne in pink cosplay even though it the chick with the love letter that gonna kill your whole team.


One time I saw this Volibear get one shot at level 1 by a Soraka. She leveled R first but had 180 AD anyways.

Edit: But that may have not been what happened, I was level 2 ganking on Blitz and didn't actually see it happen.

Edit#2: But it was just for my amusement so it may be a total lie.


So much exaggeration it hurts to read...
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
March 05 2012 08:39 GMT
#1231
On March 05 2012 17:23 wei2coolman wrote:
anyone notice the mogs in atmogs is becoming less popular? a month ago i've seen soo many warmogs, but now it's pretty rare, except with on volibear/shen/mundo.

do you think this had to do with mogs nerf?

Been declining for longer than that, but I don't think the nerf impacted much. It's just really hard to be relevant in the midgame when all you have is a wriggles and warmogs. A lot of games never reach the point where you can actually reach the built-up lategame potential you're going for with warmogs, so it ends up wasted. You're often better off going a more balanced approach or shooting for early/midgame strength to snowball into a lategame lead.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 08:48:08
March 05 2012 08:43 GMT
#1232
It's very easy for warmogs to end up being cost-ineffective simply due to having more HP than you need, so people are finding it more logical to move onto survival items that provide more team-utility which is practically like every other tank item.

If you build items like aegis, shurelyas, or phage-items, you get something out of your money even if the enemy team ignores you. With warmogs, it's 3000 wasted gold if your HP doesn't drop below what warmogs gives while the outcome of the teamfight is still being contested.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
March 05 2012 08:44 GMT
#1233
I noticed this while updating my PBE client... quick search on google revealed a video. I think its pretty cool...

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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 08:47:37
March 05 2012 08:47 GMT
#1234
On March 05 2012 17:23 wei2coolman wrote:
anyone notice the mogs in atmogs is becoming less popular? a month ago i've seen soo many warmogs, but now it's pretty rare, except with on volibear/shen/mundo.

do you think this had to do with mogs nerf?


Partly, but I think it's more to do with the power lull that comes with it. Walking around with a warmogs, wriggles and boots makes you a damage sponge, but unless you've got serious level advantage, you won't be doing much in the way of damage. Personally on most champs who need some HP I'd much rather go HoG+phage for a much smoother power curve.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 05 2012 09:10 GMT
#1235
On March 05 2012 14:27 iCanada wrote:
Next wave that comes stop the enemy creep wave before it hits your creep wave like normally so that they get in a concave and they will just auto push the lane because all your creeps will die one by one to the pre-lined up enemy wave. From there you can just zone and control the wave from right in from of your tower... or exactly where you want to be anyway.

Glabezugege... that's exactly what I've wondered how to do since I started playing Pantheon (and that has plagued me because I find it's kinda common sense but I can't seem to think about it myself T_T). Thank you so much!

Also:
On March 05 2012 13:02 Roflhaxx wrote:
Found a picture of the tweet now, was kind of justified tbh.

[image loading]

It was irony from the LoLAccount, seeing as how LoL was called a DotA rip-out in the beginning (less so that HoN but still), that Maelk guy answered way too seriously.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
March 05 2012 09:19 GMT
#1236
That's what happens when you respond seriously to a sarcastic/tongue-in-cheek comment.
twitch.tv/cratonz
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 05 2012 09:42 GMT
#1237
Twitter needs a sarcasm smily...

Dota2 devs are waaaay too serious. You know, for devs that are remaking an old game exactly like it was...


That twitchskin looks nice tho, too bad twitch is still troll #1 in most ppls eyes :/
KCCO!
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
March 05 2012 09:56 GMT
#1238
On March 05 2012 18:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Twitter needs a sarcasm smily...

Dota2 devs are waaaay too serious. You know, for devs that are remaking an old game exactly like it was...


That twitchskin looks nice tho, too bad twitch is still troll #1 in most ppls eyes :/


Troll #2. Troll #1 is eve.

That said I got an eve today who called mid. She ended 15/1/6. Fun times :D
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
March 05 2012 10:11 GMT
#1239
On March 05 2012 18:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Twitter needs a sarcasm smily...

Dota2 devs are waaaay too serious. You know, for devs that are remaking an old game exactly like it was...


That twitchskin looks nice tho, too bad twitch is still troll #1 in most ppls eyes :/


It was a pro player not a dota2 dev Obviously a moron though.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 05 2012 10:19 GMT
#1240
On March 05 2012 19:11 rob.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 18:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Twitter needs a sarcasm smily...

Dota2 devs are waaaay too serious. You know, for devs that are remaking an old game exactly like it was...


That twitchskin looks nice tho, too bad twitch is still troll #1 in most ppls eyes :/


It was a pro player not a dota2 dev Obviously a moron though.

Dota 2 pros are all morons though... they kill their own guys all the time :p
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