EPT[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 146
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:08 Senx wrote: So Reginald kicking the person who dared to argue against him yet it was Regi who consistantly underperformed during the last tourney. His team, his rules I guess. TRM has stated he left on his own because he didn't enjoy the competitive aspect of league. Whether that reason was because of Regi or not is unknown but he wasn't kicked. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:08 Senx wrote: So Reginald kicking the person who dared to argue against him yet it was Regi who consistantly underperformed during the last tourney. His team, his rules I guess. After most scrims where TSM lost recently on stream (from what I've watched) he'd always blame oddone or TRM. Even if he was the one going 0-3 with oddone ganking for his lane consistently. ;o It's just how he is, albeit, not a good quality to have. Anyway, I hope that Dyrus will be able to help the team more than TRM. At least Dyrus does have a phenomenal late game so he should be a good addition. After all it's nearly all of CDE together.  | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:18 Sabin010 wrote: TRM looked frustrated during his interview after the game against M5. I wouldn't be supprised if it was his idea to do this. Look how well CDE did. I can see Dyrus being a good addition to the team. CDE did well because they had Saint. You could have thrown just about anyone top and the result would have been the same. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:26 Two_DoWn wrote: CDE did well because they had Saint. You could have thrown just about anyone top and the result would have been the same. Okay we'll put you top next tourney and see how they do, trollolol. <3 Kidding, but yeah, you're right. But I find Dyrus to be a really strong solo top. His gp honestly scares the shit out of me when it's played. o.e | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
1) Replays. Hello Riot. This should be obvious. Replays are infinitely more useful than any other tool for improving, and learning about the game, and allowing the general skill level of the game to rise. Imagine what the Chinese meta would look like if they had access to recent-day replays of US and EU games. Why this isn't a top priority at Riot is beyond me. 2) Coaches. Some teams, like CLG.eu, get along great and analyze their own games. This is hard for most teams, and will always be biased, especially without replays. Coaches are the impartial 3rd party that comes in and say "I watched the game, you need to do this." They also coordinate so many other things; coaches exist in every other sport (including esports) for a reason. 3) Multi-team collaboration. In other esports you can have bench and practice partners. I don't think this is doable in LoL, since a practice team that can hang with the best will probably want to be their own team, and you'll end up playingeach other in tournaments, so it's hard to hide your strategy. Easiest way around this is to have a partnership with other teams, or sponsoring multiple teams. Multiple CLG teams under the same banner is a start, but I really mean Dignitas A, Dignitas B (or red/blue, w/e), etc that practice with each other on a daily basis. 4) Practice standards. You guys touched on this a lot; we need more discipline in practice. Drilling lane matchups for warmups, practicing draft/ban (let the coach pretend to be the other team), skrims against set teams, and some time for solo/duo queues to generate money and practice on your own. It's all about efficiency. It won't be as fun, and players won't have as much control. But one of these days, teams will do this and the existing teams today will not be able to compete until they adopt stricter practice regimens. They don't have to copy that process - for example, some teams may be better off without a dedicated coach - but I think most of us agree they need to change what they do today. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:27 BlackPaladin wrote: Okay we'll put you top next tourney and see how they do, trollolol. <3 Id lose tower at 15 minutes and get carried anyway obviously. Or just play Yorick. Cant lose lane as Yorick. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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lurked
Canada918 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:08 Senx wrote: So Reginald kicking the person who dared to argue against him yet it was Regi who consistantly underperformed during the last tourney. His team, his rules I guess. So many clones of that comment... What about you read the damn PR announcement before to let that kind of misinformation go? TRM wanted to leave. TSM had a perfect fit to replace him, living with them in the team house. Dyrus fills the hole created by TRM's departure. Where's the kicking here? The switch isn't an attempt to magically fix TSM's poor performance while putting all the blame on TRM, it's to fill a hole after the departure of a teammate. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:32 Sabin010 wrote: I dunno T_D. Riven beats the crap out of Yorik, and scales harder. You will lose lane as Yorik vs Riven. Manaless champions are just too good in sustain attrition wars. Typically, yes. But Yorick is broken. Just ask Smash. Who will be magically called to this thread by his Yorick hatred senses since someone mentioned Yorick. Yorick. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
but w/e, there are a number of guys who can outlane him. Udyr, Riven, XIN FUCKING ZHAO. He's still probably the best example of toxic champion design in the game, but he's not unbeatable. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
Also, the f2p issue, combined with the huge stream income relative to other esports - because of the sheer number of players, the average League player is downright terrible, and maybe even a bit slow. It's much more entertaining for the average League player to watch an "individual" than some mindless robot. Despite how much higher skill cap the current level of sc2 is compared to this game, league still generates way more viewers, just due to the higher player base. EDIT: The TRM issue. We don't know what really happened, so it's all speculation. We only know the "official" version of the story. IIRC Elementz initially left CLG for "personal reasons" and not being interested in the game or something. I'm not saying TRM was kicked, and I only hope they left on good terms, even if I don't personally like the guy. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:40 Mogwai wrote: boo yorick! but w/e, there are a number of guys who can outlane him. Udyr, Riven, XIN FUCKING ZHAO. He's still probably the best example of toxic champion design in the game, but he's not unbeatable. Does Riv actually beat him? I just have a hard time thinking that she has enough power to cut through the obscene bullshit that is his e. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:40 Mogwai wrote: boo yorick! but w/e, there are a number of guys who can outlane him. Udyr, Riven, XIN FUCKING ZHAO. He's still probably the best example of toxic champion design in the game, but he's not unbeatable. how does morde do vs him? i played a game and i just huehuehue all over the gouls, just giving me even more shield. but obviously i cant tell if he was just terrible On March 15 2012 00:46 Two_DoWn wrote: Does Riv actually beat him? I just have a hard time thinking that she has enough power to cut through the obscene bullshit that is his e. i think your supposed to lvl shield first, shield stun q in circles like an idiot win trade. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:41 Sandster wrote: The thing is, coaches clash with egos. When a single player owns the team or has too big an influence, it takes a coup to get change done (hi Phantomlord). So obviously the egos will have to go. Right now we're still at the generation of pubstar players. The only way people get known is by playing solo queue, and teams are basically just a collection of solo queue players, which doesn't necessarily translate into being good team players. People have big egos and suck at working with each other. Once the first generation of pubstar teams shifts out of their prime, you'll start seeing coaching/managing that will eventually scout players not necessarily based on their individual solo queue performance, but also their potential as team players. Naturally, this has to come from coaches/managers that were themselves good at the game (which we don't have yet). | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
A real teamfighting training mode would just be so awesome. | ||
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On a completely unrelated related note: Why do so many junglers waste so much time trying to gank a fully warded bot lane while toplane is incredibly prone to overextending and underwarding? | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:55 Schwopzi wrote: Good thing yorick is a incredibly easy target to gank early. If he uses ghouls early he pushes; if he doesn't use ghouls early he basically throws away his most dominant phase. On a completely unrelated related note: Why do so many junglers waste so much time trying to gank a fully warded bot lane while toplane is incredibly prone to overextending and underwarding? Because most people dont bother listening to me. | ||
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