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Morg can be countered too, anyway. Don't let your wave sitting in her pool and a bad last-hitting player will stay low on cs.
Learnt the hard way that Karthus is another counter when I got invited by LP.  Granted, my Morg's quite rusty now, and it was 1250 scrub vs 1600 semi-scrub, but I checked the numbers since and with level 3 Defile (or 2 with some AP) you flat out beat her level 3 Tormented Soil (even 4 if yours is 3), and Lay Waste allows him to zone you while he's camping in your minion wave. So it's him sending you to your tower.
Also, eat dps for the 3 seconds your ult takes to kick in.
Not a QQ, but yesterday we queued for a draft and headed into an obvious 5-man premade that decided to put up a counterjungling comp, picking Shyvana top, Mordekaiser mid, some aggressive lane with Ezreal bot (more zoning than pushing I guess here) and... Amumu jungle. So I felt kinda safe with Jax, supposed to be a good duelist (if in need of farm) and all that.
+ Show Spoiler [Much too detailed summary] +Fast forward, I got my timings messed up (our Shen is still quite new so he didn't now how to deal with a pushing Shyvana, much less how to defend the jungle, and Amumu did wolves->blue->my red with Shyv's help, while I couldn't hijack his) so my wraiths respawned just has I walked near them, and I figured I'd do them before heading towards the soon-to-respawn blue. Blue respawned almost immediatly, thought I'd finish the camp anyway, noticing my team when I see Amumu heading to it (ward in river). My wraiths were half-done when he enters, I finish them, he comes out (same ward), surrounded by a blue aura. Ori mid and Cait/Taric bot were pushed to tower so they couldn't move.
I'll admit to never have played jungle Amumu more than once or twice, a few months ago, but is it really possible for him to kill a buff camp (with only a philostone and no AP) in about 10-12 seconds?
Their Shyvana had teleport so maybe somebody put a ward there and she used it, then recalled in the bush or something (nobody at my blue, she didn't pass by the ward), but I couldn't swear it.
We were outpicked and outplayed anyway, so no QQing, just wondering.
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If you kill a highlander yi with morde ult on him you'll have like an incredibly fast ghost lol.
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Destiny is getting a lot of advice from some girl but most of advice she's giving is terrible - I assume Destiny is becoming worse because of this. =P Funny.
But either way, has there not been even a sneak peek of the new champion yet? At least Ezreal is free this week, have wanted to try him out for quite a while now.
But seriously, that "you really need merc treads with graves vs that team" vs gragas, janna and nautilus (none of their main CCs are affected by tenacity...)
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On March 13 2012 19:15 Shikyo wrote:
Destiny is getting a lot of advice from some girl but most of advice she's giving is terrible - I assume Destiny is becoming worse because of this. =P Funny.
But either way, has there not been even a sneak peek of the new champion yet? At least Ezreal is free this week, have wanted to try him out for quite a while now.
YOU BELONG IN A MUSEUM! all week long.
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In blindpick, pick up Olaf this week for free wins toplane
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On March 13 2012 19:15 Shikyo wrote:
But either way, has there not been even a sneak peek of the new champion yet? At least Ezreal is free this week, have wanted to try him out for quite a while now.
Nope, in lieu of pushing it back a week they have frustratingly been silent on the matter. =[
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On March 13 2012 16:38 TheBJ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 16:25 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Then again, Fizz is a fishdude, so he allways win.
Dont say Kass is bad tho, Oce will own your soul forever if you do I ate oce's soul for 4 seasons as rmp in WoW, and in LoL Im afraid he is too low to even match up with my smurf :D
SO YOU'RE IMPLYING RMP IS PRETTY GOOD AGAINST ANY W COMP?
Not the point, the point is: you're talking shit. I'm not even adressing the obvious ''huehue I'm so much better than everyone and played every game at a 0.1% top level'', but saying Fizz (who, by the way, has 8 seconds CD on Playful Trickster when maxed out) has better mobility than Kass when both have a blue buff is just hilarious.
Also, I'm surprised nobody mentioned Gragas. He pokes superbly, his mobility es #1, he doesn't have a silence but with his ult on such a ridiculously low cooldown, he's going to do work all day every day.
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I don't see how that's so hilarious? Lower cooldown on Q than Kassadin has on R and his E even if slightly longer cooldown has a longer range, also 2 mobility skills > 1 and Kassadin can't keep ulting repeatedly even with blue buff
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On March 13 2012 19:46 Shikyo wrote:
I don't see how that's so hilarious? Lower cooldown on Q than Kassadin has on R and his E even if slightly longer cooldown has a longer range, also 2 mobility skills > 1 and Kassadin can't keep ulting repeatedly even with blue buff
So how does Q help you getting from mid to top or bot lane?
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On March 13 2012 19:46 Shikyo wrote:
I don't see how that's so hilarious? Lower cooldown on Q than Kassadin has on R and his E even if slightly longer cooldown has a longer range, also 2 mobility skills > 1 and Kassadin can't keep ulting repeatedly even with blue buff
So you're saying that being restricted to nearby enemies when wanting to move around is better mobility than being able to port wherever the fuck you want.
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How did Vayne fall out of grace in the last few months, and why did Corki/Tristana make such a reappearance?
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On March 13 2012 19:55 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
How did Vayne fall out of grace in the last few months, and why did Corki/Tristana make such a reappearance?
People follow whatever high elo/streamers do, champs become fotm. Corki trist always been really strong.
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On March 13 2012 19:55 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
How did Vayne fall out of grace in the last few months, and why did Corki/Tristana make such a reappearance?
maybe it has to do with Vayne's week laning phase and the prevalence of counterjungling right now.
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On March 13 2012 19:54 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 19:46 Shikyo wrote:
I don't see how that's so hilarious? Lower cooldown on Q than Kassadin has on R and his E even if slightly longer cooldown has a longer range, also 2 mobility skills > 1 and Kassadin can't keep ulting repeatedly even with blue buff So you're saying that being restricted to nearby enemies when wanting to move around is better mobility than being able to port wherever the fuck you want.
I'm saying that being able to port wherever the fuck you want AND being able to move to nearby enemies consistently is better than being able to move wherever the fuck you want to 4-5 times in a row before running out of mana and needing to wait 12 seconds for the next blink?
No wait, I'm not even saying that. I'm just saying it's not hilarious to think that that's true.
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On March 13 2012 19:55 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
How did Vayne fall out of grace in the last few months, and why did Corki/Tristana make such a reappearance?
Since M5 everything that is worth bot is strong lane champion - see Urgot during last IEM, ad Kennen and miss fortuna in the previous one.
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On March 13 2012 20:03 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 19:54 JackDino wrote:On March 13 2012 19:46 Shikyo wrote:
I don't see how that's so hilarious? Lower cooldown on Q than Kassadin has on R and his E even if slightly longer cooldown has a longer range, also 2 mobility skills > 1 and Kassadin can't keep ulting repeatedly even with blue buff So you're saying that being restricted to nearby enemies when wanting to move around is better mobility than being able to port wherever the fuck you want. I'm saying that being able to port wherever the fuck you want AND being able to move to nearby enemies consistently is better than being able to move wherever the fuck you want to 4-5 times in a row before running out of mana and needing to wait 12 seconds for the next blink? No wait, I'm not even saying that. I'm just saying it's not hilarious to think that that's true.
Fizz' E is way too easy to botch to use it as a consistent escape tool, and besides, mana is not an issue if you have blue buff. So you have to wait 3 seconds after your 3rd R, wat now? You're almost bot/top already anyway. If you feel like you can blink 4 or 5 times as Kass and then have to wait 12 seconds, you're clearly doing it wrong.
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Oh mobility is solely about crossing the River? Then how about Sion, TF? I took it for general mobility in which case Fizz is superb, and you indeed can't keep spamming ulti continuously with Kass even with bluebuff.
And again I was merely saying that it's not hilarious to think that Fizz has better mobility than Kassadin.
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Regi playing a terrible morg, "My team mates are so bad dude"
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On March 13 2012 19:57 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 19:55 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
How did Vayne fall out of grace in the last few months, and why did Corki/Tristana make such a reappearance? People follow whatever high elo/streamers do, champs become fotm. Corki trist always been really strong.
The vayne nerfs were pretty large IMO, in that they heavily nerfed a lot of what felt op about her (free repositioning with stealth + ms) while keeping her weak laning phase. (And her laning phase is even weaker because your harass is slightly weaker now.)
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On March 13 2012 18:32 Alaric wrote:Morg can be countered too, anyway. Don't let your wave sitting in her pool and a bad last-hitting player will stay low on cs. Learnt the hard way that Karthus is another counter when I got invited by LP. Granted, my Morg's quite rusty now, and it was 1250 scrub vs 1600 semi-scrub, but I checked the numbers since and with level 3 Defile (or 2 with some AP) you flat out beat her level 3 Tormented Soil (even 4 if yours is 3), and Lay Waste allows him to zone you while he's camping in your minion wave. So it's him sending you to your tower. Also, eat dps for the 3 seconds your ult takes to kick in. Not a QQ, but yesterday we queued for a draft and headed into an obvious 5-man premade that decided to put up a counterjungling comp, picking Shyvana top, Mordekaiser mid, some aggressive lane with Ezreal bot (more zoning than pushing I guess here) and... Amumu jungle. So I felt kinda safe with Jax, supposed to be a good duelist (if in need of farm) and all that. + Show Spoiler [Much too detailed summary] +Fast forward, I got my timings messed up (our Shen is still quite new so he didn't now how to deal with a pushing Shyvana, much less how to defend the jungle, and Amumu did wolves->blue->my red with Shyv's help, while I couldn't hijack his) so my wraiths respawned just has I walked near them, and I figured I'd do them before heading towards the soon-to-respawn blue. Blue respawned almost immediatly, thought I'd finish the camp anyway, noticing my team when I see Amumu heading to it (ward in river). My wraiths were half-done when he enters, I finish them, he comes out (same ward), surrounded by a blue aura. Ori mid and Cait/Taric bot were pushed to tower so they couldn't move. I'll admit to never have played jungle Amumu more than once or twice, a few months ago, but is it really possible for him to kill a buff camp (with only a philostone and no AP) in about 10-12 seconds? Their Shyvana had teleport so maybe somebody put a ward there and she used it, then recalled in the bush or something (nobody at my blue, she didn't pass by the ward), but I couldn't swear it. We were outpicked and outplayed anyway, so no QQing, just wondering.
I did the math on mumu. Assuming that he was lvl6 and he has either 1/2/2/1 or 1/3/1/1 he will need around 14 seconds to finish blue. I assumed that he would get off one q and one e during the fight. Depending on the exact timing I think it is not unfeasible that he stole your blue.
On March 13 2012 21:23 Nehsb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 19:57 JackDino wrote:On March 13 2012 19:55 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
How did Vayne fall out of grace in the last few months, and why did Corki/Tristana make such a reappearance? People follow whatever high elo/streamers do, champs become fotm. Corki trist always been really strong. The vayne nerfs were pretty large IMO, in that they heavily nerfed a lot of what felt op about her (free repositioning with stealth + ms) while keeping her weak laning phase. (And her laning phase is even weaker because your harass is slightly weaker now.)
I don't think her late game capabilities were hit that hard. She is still a monster when she gets through laning phase. The problem is that she was struggling with that before the nerf and now you need to be really careful when to pick her.
Since we are talking about ad carries... I started using Ashe again and I'm in love  I don't actually know why but the small buffs and especially the reduced mana costs on her skills have made her so much more enjoyable for me. Do other people feel the same? I just get through laning much better with her now. Before I would just always get outharrased because I couldn't really use w to harass without running oom.
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