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On February 17 2012 14:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Old boring recycled skills, and her passive looks to be about as overpowered as all fuck, no matter what the numbers are. All she has to do is autoattack to sustain??? I guess we'll have to wait and see what the final product is, but right off the bat she looks like a no-go for me.
Man and I was so happy with the direction Riot has been taking with their champs lately. Ziggs was so well designed and Nautilus....dunno haven't tried him yet or seen enough people play him but at least the concept/skills are cool as fuck.
That's melee carry for ya. Need a decent heal or they become garbage.
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Wtf was riot thinking with Shen?
No team with a Shen on it has lost in the 30+ games that I've had with him.
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On February 17 2012 14:03 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Melee carries just don't work though unless your name is tryndamere. They get blown apart in 2 seconds by any decent team.
from the sounds of it her ult will work like Yi's q and she has irelias healing so some decent damage avoidance
looks like another wits end ionic spark fratma's tanky dps autohit bot to me, you list it out it sounds so specific but then again its like standard build for like 10 champs : l
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On February 17 2012 13:46 RageOverdose wrote:
So I just hit level 30, and I was wondering:
Should I do Normal Draft Picks to get used to the idea of counter picking and getting counter picked, or just go balls deep and start with ranked games (solo Q)?
Also, I'm proficient with < 10 champions: Vayne, Sivir, Skarner, Udyr, Ahri, Morgana, and Sona. By proficient I mean that I can play well in these games and pull wins at least in normals. Should I expand out more and how so? I want to get into ranked and I just wanna get in the right way.
I would probably work on being able to play a few more mids as morgana and ahri are banned quite often, and also some tops - you don't really have any except udyr. It also helps to at least have runes that work with each lane in general, not sure how you are on those. There isn't a whole lot of counter picking in lower elos, its mostly just taking what you want (or what's left, if you're a lower pick), so I wouldn't worry about normal drafts. I think you'd be best off getting comfortable playing and having good setups for a few more champs in those roles, though.
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On February 17 2012 14:18 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 14:03 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Melee carries just don't work though unless your name is tryndamere. They get blown apart in 2 seconds by any decent team. from the sounds of it her ult will work like Yi's q and she has irelias healing so some decent damage avoidance looks like another wits end ionic spark fratma's tanky dps autohit bot to me, you list it out it sounds so specific but then again its like standard build for like 10 champs : l
Tbh the problem isn't lack of diversity in champions. Its the small/bad pool of items we have in the game. We need to have way more items, stuff like item passives and actives need to be played around with and all the items need to be viable. More than half the items atm are just bad in terms of cost efficiency or some other factors.
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On February 17 2012 12:46 LaNague wrote:Show nested quote +welcome to the champion spotlight featuring fiora, the only girl without her chest falling out they can still rework the model, they have done it before :D
Hey, Leona, poppy, kayle, tristana, annie, anivia, vayne...
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On February 17 2012 14:15 TheTurk wrote:
Wtf was riot thinking with Shen?
No team with a Shen on it has lost in the 30+ games that I've had with him.
I've lost pretty hard with Shen vs Poppy and Olaf top, he does still have good counterpicks. It only takes a bit of jungle pressure to tip these matchups and make it a nightmare for him.
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i dont think its fair to say that theres not enough items but imo atleast too many items get ruled out because they lack a late game upgrade, just look at how good dorans have to be compared to long swords to be worth buying. then consider that long swords dont even build in to anything 'good'.
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why is there no fix for accidentally ignoring people on friends lists in games yet? so stupid when you realize that your friend has not been on your list for like a week and wonder why they stopped playing lol.
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On February 17 2012 14:19 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 13:46 RageOverdose wrote:
So I just hit level 30, and I was wondering:
Should I do Normal Draft Picks to get used to the idea of counter picking and getting counter picked, or just go balls deep and start with ranked games (solo Q)?
Also, I'm proficient with < 10 champions: Vayne, Sivir, Skarner, Udyr, Ahri, Morgana, and Sona. By proficient I mean that I can play well in these games and pull wins at least in normals. Should I expand out more and how so? I want to get into ranked and I just wanna get in the right way. I would probably work on being able to play a few more mids as morgana and ahri are banned quite often, and also some tops - you don't really have any except udyr. It also helps to at least have runes that work with each lane in general, not sure how you are on those. There isn't a whole lot of counter picking in lower elos, its mostly just taking what you want (or what's left, if you're a lower pick), so I wouldn't worry about normal drafts. I think you'd be best off getting comfortable playing and having good setups for a few more champs in those roles, though.
Does Wukong get banned alot? If so, what's another good solo top?
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On February 17 2012 14:28 turdburgler wrote:
i dont think its fair to say that theres not enough items but imo atleast too many items get ruled out because they lack a late game upgrade, just look at how good dorans have to be compared to long swords to be worth buying. then consider that long swords dont even build in to anything 'good'.
Well, I do think there is definitely room for way more item exploration in the same way that there is constant champ exploration and discovery.
Take Exe calling. I think this is a HIGHLY underrated item in a lot of situations- for example Tabi+Exe Calling makes quite a bit of sense on champions like Jax and GP if they get slightly head in top lane. Plus it SHOULD be a must buy on melee attackers in games with mundo/swain/rumble/vlad/anyone who builds and uses a wota well.
But there is the whole issue where you can just math out a lot of items and realize that they are just inferior in a way you cannot do with champions.
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The sustain on Fiora's passive looks disgusting.
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On February 17 2012 14:40 RageOverdose wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 14:19 Thermia wrote:On February 17 2012 13:46 RageOverdose wrote:
So I just hit level 30, and I was wondering:
Should I do Normal Draft Picks to get used to the idea of counter picking and getting counter picked, or just go balls deep and start with ranked games (solo Q)?
Also, I'm proficient with < 10 champions: Vayne, Sivir, Skarner, Udyr, Ahri, Morgana, and Sona. By proficient I mean that I can play well in these games and pull wins at least in normals. Should I expand out more and how so? I want to get into ranked and I just wanna get in the right way. I would probably work on being able to play a few more mids as morgana and ahri are banned quite often, and also some tops - you don't really have any except udyr. It also helps to at least have runes that work with each lane in general, not sure how you are on those. There isn't a whole lot of counter picking in lower elos, its mostly just taking what you want (or what's left, if you're a lower pick), so I wouldn't worry about normal drafts. I think you'd be best off getting comfortable playing and having good setups for a few more champs in those roles, though. Does Wukong get banned alot? If so, what's another good solo top?
i've never seen wukong banned. he's really strong and underplayed.
On February 17 2012 14:47 broz0rs wrote:
The sustain on Fiora's passive looks disgusting.
...you don't even know the numbers yet how would you know wtf -.-; and it only stacks if you hit champs with it so my guess is that the sustain from it at 1 stack won't be very much at all and for it to actually heal a decent amount you'll have to draw creep aggro. but again, no numbers so you have no idea how "disgusting" it'll be.
On February 17 2012 14:28 turdburgler wrote:
i dont think its fair to say that theres not enough items but imo atleast too many items get ruled out because they lack a late game upgrade, just look at how good dorans have to be compared to long swords to be worth buying. then consider that long swords dont even build in to anything 'good'.
I kinda agree with T_D about item exploration, but the fact is that items in LoL are generally pretty boring imo. While I understand that's it's unfair and stupid to compare items in LoL to items in DotA since the two games are vastly different, I can't help but feel that LoL's items are very wimpy and low-key in comparison.
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her kit looks like it would be conducive to jungling except for the passive not stacking against creeps. i just don't see melee champs without a strong defensive move or defensive stats being really super viable as carries. maybe her W active will be enough, but doesn't really help against mages 
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On February 17 2012 14:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
I kinda agree with T_D about item exploration, but the fact is that items in LoL are generally pretty boring imo. While I understand that's it's unfair and stupid to compare items in LoL to items in DotA since the two games are vastly different, I can't help but feel that LoL's items are very wimpy and low-key in comparison.
I think Locket was a great step in the right direction. I think in general, there's a lot Riot could do with item actives that could be really cool.
I think an active like the Gunblade/Cutlass active is wasted on such a niche item. I would like to see a similar CC active available on an item for a support or AP (obviously stun or even root might be too strong, but Blind, Silence, or Slow are all probably reasonable item actives if balanced properly).
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LOL. Apparently my friends are playing against LoCicero in normals right now.
Turn on your stream you loser. =\
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...you don't even know the numbers yet how would you know wtf -.-; and it only stacks if you hit champs with it so my guess is that the sustain from it at 1 stack won't be very much at all and for it to actually heal a decent amount you'll have to draw creep aggro. but again, no numbers so you have no idea how "disgusting" it'll be.
Passive - Duelist: Fiora regenerates health over 6 seconds each time she deals damage. Striking champions will cause this effect to stack up to 4 times.
From looking at this passive, it appears as though she regens every time she DEALS DAMAGE. Not just to champions. Hence just from regular last hitting she will regen; and if she needs more she can attack/harass for even MORE regen.
Obviously this can still be adjusted, but this appears to be extremely broken as it stands currently.
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I don't think it will be THAT bad since it's a heal over time as opposed to just straight healing. It'll probably be a worse healing version of Irelia's W that activates on any kind of attack.
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is shen a good sub for GP top lane because they nerfed him so i am OOM all the time and he is not as poopy OP anymore and i want to play an easy OP champion because then i would have beat westrice and won the game
basically what has a greater OP + ez to play: shen or yorick or anyone else pls help me chingoos
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On February 17 2012 15:36 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +
...you don't even know the numbers yet how would you know wtf -.-; and it only stacks if you hit champs with it so my guess is that the sustain from it at 1 stack won't be very much at all and for it to actually heal a decent amount you'll have to draw creep aggro. but again, no numbers so you have no idea how "disgusting" it'll be.
Passive - Duelist: Fiora regenerates health over 6 seconds each time she deals damage. Striking champions will cause this effect to stack up to 4 times. From looking at this passive, it appears as though she regens every time she DEALS DAMAGE. Not just to champions. Hence just from regular last hitting she will regen; and if she needs more she can attack/harass for even MORE regen. Obviously this can still be adjusted, but this appears to be extremely broken as it stands currently.
you mean like lifesteal or ww passive. obviously broken. completely broken where it stands currently? i doesn't even stand anywhere currently.
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