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On February 27 2012 05:28 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
@slayer91 can you post some of your udyr games please? I'm trying to get good at him but I'm just really bad at optimizing my own farm, as well as playing out teamfights correctly. it would really helpful to see a good player in action.
Also, can we just have a replays thread? People like smash and teut can post some of their good replays of their mains and stuff. Could be a really good resource in addition to all the champion threads.
We do have a replays thread... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=246642
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Been jungling kayle to great success! Surprised I don't' see her jungle more. Pretty good ganks, and has strong lane pushing abilities to deny xp after a kill. Also is highly mobile, can get away from most shit. Though I would say I'm pretty afraid of counter jungling with her, she's just sort of frail.
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On February 27 2012 05:31 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 05:28 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
@slayer91 can you post some of your udyr games please? I'm trying to get good at him but I'm just really bad at optimizing my own farm, as well as playing out teamfights correctly. it would really helpful to see a good player in action.
Also, can we just have a replays thread? People like smash and teut can post some of their good replays of their mains and stuff. Could be a really good resource in addition to all the champion threads. We do have a replays thread... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=246642
Ah thanks.
Don't know how I didn't see that before, since I keep lurking in the subforum all day . . . .
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lol that game between SK and CLG.eu CLG.eu decides to ban eve fid and twitch, gets a 4:40 dragon, wins game fast.
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On February 27 2012 05:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Been jungling kayle to great success! Surprised I don't' see her jungle more. Pretty good ganks, and has strong lane pushing abilities to deny xp after a kill. Also is highly mobile, can get away from most shit. Though I would say I'm pretty afraid of counter jungling with her, she's just sort of frail.
Ya just gotta watch when the enemy jungle is ganking to take their blue. Just had a game as jungle kayle. I'm not sure if she's stronger than sion's ganks but I was getting bored of sion. Ended up 1-0-11 in a curbstomp game but only cuz I built tanky wriggles warmogs wits end 
Kayle's clear speed is fast if you max E. Her range means that she puts herself in less danger than other bruisers. Sometimes your team won't have an AD carry because bot lane decided to do something unmeta whereas mid and top did. Maxing E over Q however means that you need like at least 5 attacks per gank for it to be worth the damage. She also has nice damage and a good ult.
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On February 27 2012 05:13 ManyCookies wrote:Vision on the Laser is a nice touch, though more or less cosmetic.
You know that you'll manage to kill the fleeing guy one second before he actually dies, that cuts all of the element of surprise! :'(
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On February 27 2012 05:50 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 05:13 ManyCookies wrote:Vision on the Laser is a nice touch, though more or less cosmetic. You know that you'll manage to kill the fleeing guy one second before he actually dies, that cuts all of the element of surprise! :'(
I agree this is sad. Killing sbd in the fog of war with a Xerath W/Q is da best feeling evar :D
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On February 27 2012 05:37 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 05:31 Kaniol wrote:On February 27 2012 05:28 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
@slayer91 can you post some of your udyr games please? I'm trying to get good at him but I'm just really bad at optimizing my own farm, as well as playing out teamfights correctly. it would really helpful to see a good player in action.
Also, can we just have a replays thread? People like smash and teut can post some of their good replays of their mains and stuff. Could be a really good resource in addition to all the champion threads. We do have a replays thread... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=246642 Ah thanks. Don't know how I didn't see that before, since I keep lurking in the subforum all day . . . .
Maybe because noone used it since november?  Have to search it
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On February 27 2012 05:37 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 05:31 Kaniol wrote:On February 27 2012 05:28 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
@slayer91 can you post some of your udyr games please? I'm trying to get good at him but I'm just really bad at optimizing my own farm, as well as playing out teamfights correctly. it would really helpful to see a good player in action.
Also, can we just have a replays thread? People like smash and teut can post some of their good replays of their mains and stuff. Could be a really good resource in addition to all the champion threads. We do have a replays thread... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=246642 Ah thanks. Don't know how I didn't see that before, since I keep lurking in the subforum all day . . . .
I have a hard time finding threads, no index :<
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Search function not that hard to use...
Edit: search our subforum only, make sure to select that in the drop down menu. Searching all of TL would be like finding a needle in a haystack.
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On February 27 2012 05:31 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 05:28 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
@slayer91 can you post some of your udyr games please? I'm trying to get good at him but I'm just really bad at optimizing my own farm, as well as playing out teamfights correctly. it would really helpful to see a good player in action.
Also, can we just have a replays thread? People like smash and teut can post some of their good replays of their mains and stuff. Could be a really good resource in addition to all the champion threads. We do have a replays thread... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=246642
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184841¤tpage=22#422
I can upload some more.
update: got another couple replays out and wall of texted the shit out of the udyr thread. I have a few more but they'd have to be reviewed. If I don't name them after they get saved I forget what happened.
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Random thought: given that the two champions with blinds (Teemo and Heimerdinger) are weak/underplayed, why don't they give Blinds a buff? Right now they're the weakest form of CC by far, but they could be made much more interesting.
Blinds should at the very least stop all on-hit modifiers like Renekton stun, Udyr's stances, etc. They could also make all targeted spells miss for the duration. It would obviously be strong but I don't think it would be overpowered.
Another possible solution (I like this better than making spells miss) is making blinds actually blind (i.e. work like Graves smoke / Nocturne ult). This one is so obvious I'm not sure why it doesn't work this way already.
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On February 27 2012 07:54 Alzadar wrote:
Random thought: given that the two champions with blinds (Teemo and Heimerdinger) are weak/underplayed, why don't they give Blinds a buff? Right now they're the weakest form of CC by far, but they could be made much more interesting.
Blinds should at the very least stop all on-hit modifiers like Renekton stun, Udyr's stances, etc. They could also make all targeted spells miss for the duration. It would obviously be strong but I don't think it would be overpowered.
Another possible solution (I like this better than making spells miss) is making blinds actually blind (i.e. work like Graves smoke / Nocturne ult). This one is so obvious I'm not sure why it doesn't work this way already.
hahaha I support this. Teemo is invisible. blind darts and darts away ( )
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Teemo is annoying enough as it is. I say just make heimer blind easier to hit.
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Silence = Anti-Spell
Blind = Anti-autoattack
On-hit modifiers such as Nasus Q and Renek W are technically spells with a melee component so it''d feel bad for an anti-auto spell to mess up your spell as well, although it is understandable why this may not be intuitive.
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On February 27 2012 07:54 Alzadar wrote:
This one is so obvious I'm not sure why it doesn't work this way already.
Maybe because it's incredibly stupid.
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On February 27 2012 08:02 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Silence = Anti-Spell
Blind = Anti-autoattack
On-hit modifiers such as Nasus Q and Renek W are technically spells with a melee component so it''d feel bad for an anti-auto spell to mess up your spell as well, although it is understandable why this may not be intuitive.
I don't really get this logic. If Miss Fortune uses Impure Shots while blinded should her attacks hit? That's silly and makes what is already a very weak form of CC even weaker. Blinds should make you miss auto-attacks, if you have a spell that modifies auto-attacks it should miss as well.
On February 27 2012 08:06 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 07:54 Alzadar wrote:
This one is so obvious I'm not sure why it doesn't work this way already. Maybe because it's incredibly stupid.
Care to elaborate? It's a neat little buff to two very underplayed champions that would give them an interesting mechanic to play around with. It already exists in the game and isn't overly powerful.
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On February 27 2012 08:07 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 08:02 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Silence = Anti-Spell
Blind = Anti-autoattack
On-hit modifiers such as Nasus Q and Renek W are technically spells with a melee component so it''d feel bad for an anti-auto spell to mess up your spell as well, although it is understandable why this may not be intuitive. I don't really get this logic. If Miss Fortune uses Impure Shots while blinded should her attacks hit? That's silly and makes what is already a very weak form of CC even weaker. Blinds should make you miss auto-attacks, if you have a spell that modifies auto-attacks it should miss as well. Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 08:06 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 27 2012 07:54 Alzadar wrote:
This one is so obvious I'm not sure why it doesn't work this way already. Maybe because it's incredibly stupid. Care to elaborate? It's a neat little buff to two very underplayed champions that would give them an interesting mechanic to play around with. It already exists in the game and isn't overly powerful.
Teemo and Heimer are not underplayed because they're too weak. They're underplayed because they are niche champions that only work in certain weird compositions. But they don't need buffs.
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On February 27 2012 08:07 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 08:02 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Silence = Anti-Spell
Blind = Anti-autoattack
On-hit modifiers such as Nasus Q and Renek W are technically spells with a melee component so it''d feel bad for an anti-auto spell to mess up your spell as well, although it is understandable why this may not be intuitive. I don't really get this logic. If Miss Fortune uses Impure Shots while blinded should her attacks hit? That's silly and makes what is already a very weak form of CC even weaker. Blinds should make you miss auto-attacks, if you have a spell that modifies auto-attacks it should miss as well. Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 08:06 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 27 2012 07:54 Alzadar wrote:
This one is so obvious I'm not sure why it doesn't work this way already. Maybe because it's incredibly stupid. Care to elaborate? It's a neat little buff to two very underplayed champions that would give them an interesting mechanic to play around with. It already exists in the game and isn't overly powerful.
A complete screen blind makes it so that you can't do anything in the game. Even if it's only 1s, a single movement spell used on you and you're legitimately lost, because when you're out of blind you have to re-assess the situation immediatly.
It's not fun, it doesn't add anything, and it's nearly as much CC as a suppress. You really want to have that on lvl1 ?
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On February 27 2012 08:07 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 08:06 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 27 2012 07:54 Alzadar wrote:
This one is so obvious I'm not sure why it doesn't work this way already. Maybe because it's incredibly stupid. Care to elaborate? It's a neat little buff to two very underplayed champions that would give them an interesting mechanic to play around with. It already exists in the game and isn't overly powerful.
It's not a 'little' buff, It's an gargantuan buff to heroes that don't really need it. Why? Because it will turn a blind into effectively a fear. What do you do when you get into graves' smoke? You run the fuck away. What will you do when teemo blinds you and you can't see anything? You run the fuck away. Especially since both teemo and heimer are ranged and this effectively turns it into 2+ seconds of free dps for them and their entire team.
That is, of course, if the fight isn't completely determined by then, in which case blind probably would either do nothing and you die anyway or let the hero escape unscathed by setting up a massive juke (e.g. blind/flash and unless you get told where he flashed, you won't find him).
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