[Patch 1.0.0.134: Nautilus] General Discussion - Page 109

On February 23 2012 00:58 Juicyfruit wrote:


Maybe they are, but the problem is more that if you make exe a viable standalone item, for instance, then you'd be stuck trying to balance self-healers between "totally useless with healing debuff on" and "totally overpowered without healing debuff on".

I mean they're already kind of like that now with Ignite :x

On February 23 2012 01:27 Cavaman wrote:
I'm not sure showcasing the fact that you can infinite combo people in that game is a selling point.

On February 23 2012 01:31 Sabin010 wrote:


I rush for EC on GP against anybody with sustain in top lane, WW, Nidalee etc. EC is already a perfect situational item. Why does it to upgrade? Why not make Wriggles lantern upgrade into something comparable to bloodthirster, then instead of selling my Wriggle's in the super late game I can just turn it into a bloodthirster and keep the free ward? EC is one of those items that is designed for winning what should be an unwinnable lane. Once you reach end game you just sell it for more damage. I'm a big fan of selling items, a few days ago I was playing MF and got fed. The enemy team all bought thornmails, so I sold my GA after it proc'd and went with a final build of BT, PD, Boots, Lichbanes, Deathcap, Last Whisper.

On February 23 2012 01:37 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
executioner's calling is a good item if you're facing someone who relies heavily on a rapid burst of healing (irelia mundo tryn etc) but you have to already be winning the lane or else it just doesnt give the benefits of wriggles, dblade, hog, whatever for top lane champs (a measure of defensiveness)

on the other hand if you're already winning top lane vs like a mundo or something and you want to poop on him even harder, get an executioners calling (20 second cd on the active, lol.)

On February 23 2012 02:24 Tooplark wrote:
biggest problem with exe is it's late game stats on a 1350 gold item
if you can justify buying early crit and lifesteal instead of bf sword or wiggles then go ahead

On February 23 2012 01:33 Slayer91 wrote:
Kerp used to play with him until kerp actually got good and jumped 1k elo above him so now Shikyos just relegated to being #1 Kerp fanboy

On February 23 2012 02:15 Alaric wrote:
Get CDR on top of tanky. When you get behind your shield can be bursted quite quickly and once you did your Q->auto-attack->E combo you can feel helpless in those cases. Also, autoattacking with the shield on is actually a big part of your damage, so you want to be able to renew it as soon as possible anyway.
If you max W first (apparently people laning him max E first, how does it do?) the cooldown will be almost as long as the duration with a bit of CDR, so try to pop your shield ahead of fights, this way even if it gets bursted (it probably won't last 10s anyway, if only from the incidental AoE) you can have it back up faster.

On February 23 2012 01:31 Sabin010 wrote:


I rush for EC on GP against anybody with sustain in top lane, WW, Nidalee etc. EC is already a perfect situational item. Why does it to upgrade? Why not make Wriggles lantern upgrade into something comparable to bloodthirster, then instead of selling my Wriggle's in the super late game I can just turn it into a bloodthirster and keep the free ward? EC is one of those items that is designed for winning what should be an unwinnable lane. Once you reach end game you just sell it for more damage. I'm a big fan of selling items, a few days ago I was playing MF and got fed. The enemy team all bought thornmails, so I sold my GA after it proc'd and went with a final build of BT, PD, Boots, Lichbanes, Deathcap, Last Whisper.

On February 23 2012 02:49 turdburgler wrote:
karthus bot is only strong because firstly, he farms idiots, secondly because bots cant be denied gold

how to win pve. let the computer push, attack from from your turret, they will tank 2 shots, flash or run to them, ignite or exhaust = first blood

go back and buy some sustain, either health regen or life steal looking to build philostone or similar. farm your lane a bit more, now you have lvl advantage, just trade with them till they are ~40% hp, they will retreat to turret but they wont back

when they come out, combo them for the next easy kill.

the bots are 'better' now but to any player with a brain they still do the 1 thing bots will always do, make the same consistant mistakes which can be abused. now riot could program the bots to just perfectly last hit and use runes and never push their lane, but then no one would ever win so they dont.

if you go mid/late game due to idiot team mates, split push. you should always run teleport in pve anyway so that you can get more ahead (you cant rely on team mates) so split push and the entire enemy team will come back, use either wards or your teleport to go somewhere else, ezpz.

and if you want to be super tryhard, certain chars just carry better against bots. i would suggest gangplank and lee sin.

i play 'a lot' of pve to lvl smurf account, just do first win of the day for 150 bonus ip in 20 mins 90% of the time.

On February 23 2012 02:35 Shikyo wrote:

Yeahhhhh though honestly in like the last ~10 games I've played with him I haven't even fed :3

By the way here's a PvP video of that game as yeah combo video doesn't really show what it's really like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XFWBmPdZ5g

Balance's a bit questionable I guess.. Still an amazing extremely skill-based high skillcap game so if you became interested by hotshotgg playing it give it a try!~

On February 23 2012 02:51 mr_tolkien wrote:

lvl1 you don't have ignite and flash :p Real hard.