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On February 07 2012 15:19 Two_DoWn wrote:
Ult range is bigger than a fear buff. I dont care about fear cuz it is meaningless if you cant get into range. How do you get into range? Use your ult.
The range on Noc's ult hasn't been changed since last April. Even after that change, he was still one of the most popular junglers until they shit on his fear so hard that you can't CC anyone in gank attempts anymore.
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ok so the last ~150 ranked games i've played i've just played whatever position i end up having to, without complaining. I learned a bunch of shit! the last week I've played 30 matches or so and i have been fucking dominating lanes, and more recently, reliably turning that into a secured win. I'm like +28 w/l in this span
what's the next bad player plateau number? 1600?
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Valhalla18444 Posts
ey, Roku is playin Soraka on sv's team right now
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On February 07 2012 16:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
ok so the last ~150 ranked games i've played i've just played whatever position i end up having to, without complaining. I learned a bunch of shit! the last week I've played 30 matches or so and i have been fucking dominating lanes, and more recently, reliably turning that into a secured win. I'm like +28 w/l in this span
what's the next bad player plateau number? 1600?
Iono if there is such a thing. 1250 is top 25%, but still pretty bad in general. Maybe 2k+? :D
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On February 07 2012 16:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
ok so the last ~150 ranked games i've played i've just played whatever position i end up having to, without complaining. I learned a bunch of shit! the last week I've played 30 matches or so and i have been fucking dominating lanes, and more recently, reliably turning that into a secured win. I'm like +28 w/l in this span
what's the next bad player plateau number? 1600?
I've been utterly stomped almost every game a play lately...I feel like everyone else around me has improved while I've stayed the same, and I'm losing to the players I would have once been able to beat handily.
I have no idea what to do and am at a loss....the new bad must be somewhere around 1400-1600 because that's what I've been playing against....and they've been killing me.
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1600's is still bad, and that's where I struggle though. It's like C+ on Iccup in terms of BW. You're SO close to breaking B- but you still lack some critical key points to your macro/micro/build order/scouting to get that edge to reach it. I know it's a terribly analogy because LoL is a team game, but you need to have a great synergy of calling MIA's, knowing jungle routes, knowing timings of respawns, knowing when to engage, when to not engage, when to take a kill and retreat, when to press an advantage, when to let a teammate die, when to play defensive. ALL THE WHILE PLAYING AS A TEAM. You get too varied of types of players in Solo Q that all are making decisions, it's tough.
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Couple of newbie questions , if anyone can help it will be greatly appreciated.
1) tournament schedule - no place i could find with reliable up and coming tournaments , and when / where to tune in into them
(like the wonderful big events / right panel for SC on TL.) only reason i got to watch iem is because of the in-game direction
2) I am around level 20 summoner , still working on last hitting , knowing when to attack / backup warding and mostly
following a build for each of my characters i found on mobafire . (i play zilean / ashe / chogath depends on what team lacks)
in no place i could find a reference on - when i should deviate from the recommended build , what do i do if i start bad ,
how to adjust myself against my opponent .
3) is LoL community really that bad ? there must be some good people - hell TL have a section ! though a bit small . where they hang?
i really hope thats not too bad of a place to post those , i didn't want to start a new thread just for that - so general discussion sounded like a solution .
really thanks for any help anyone can provide .
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See alot of Ziggsbans in higher ELO, this becus of imba or people just fed up with him already / dont wanna play agaisnt?
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So I've been a fan of Miss Fortune since her release but always chose "better" AD carries in ranked because I thought she was sub par. Now I'm seeing lots of teams picking her (Chaox mostly and some euro ADs) if Sivir isn't available. Is this just because graves and vayne were nerfed? Have the pros just figured out that she is better than we thought? She's squishy and tricky to use, but I always thought her ultimate was good if you aim it correctly, but annoying cuz its a channel so you can't auto attack during it, not to mention it does magic dmg, along with her other skills besides Double Up. A lot of magic dmg kind of like Kog/Ez/Corki I guess. And her passive is nice but its so easy for it to reset from any stray creep dmg.
What do you guys think about getting the 10% mpen mastery and go like 27/4/0? Or just forget about her magic dmg and go pure AD+rejuv 21/0/9 like most other ADs? She goes oom pretty fast.
What about a hubrid build?
Wriggles+PD better than IE rush on her?
Didn't see a thread about MF and I don't really want to start one, but I'm seeing her more and more and it intrigues me and I want to see what people think about her. :O
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I feel Ziggs is neither op neither up, he's just balanced. I've beaten all Ziggs I've faced so far but this is in 800 Elo. :D
Maybe when someone else figures how to play him better we'll have a better verdict on him but unlike champions like Ahri who was thought as OP at release and Sejuani who people think just sucks and is UP he's pretty balanced IMO.
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On February 07 2012 18:02 haflo wrote:
Couple of newbie questions , if anyone can help it will be greatly appreciated.
1) tournament schedule - no place i could find with reliable up and coming tournaments , and when / where to tune in into them
(like the wonderful big events / right panel for SC on TL.) only reason i got to watch iem is because of the in-game direction
2) I am around level 20 summoner , still working on last hitting , knowing when to attack / backup warding and mostly
following a build for each of my characters i found on mobafire . (i play zilean / ashe / chogath depends on what team lacks)
in no place i could find a reference on - when i should deviate from the recommended build , what do i do if i start bad ,
how to adjust myself against my opponent .
3) is LoL community really that bad ? there must be some good people - hell TL have a section ! though a bit small . where they hang?
i really hope thats not too bad of a place to post those , i didn't want to start a new thread just for that - so general discussion sounded like a solution .
really thanks for any help anyone can provide .
Welcome!
1) We don't really have a centralized place that lists all of the tournaments like the sidebar does for SC, so your best bet is the Pro Scene Evolution thread, the Individual Tournament thread, or just pop into GD and see what is being discussed. Usually people post links to streams when they become available.
2) Leveling up is all about practice. Sounds like you are on the right track. Generally speaking, mobafire is a terrible place to get build guides from, you will get much more current information from Featured Guides on Solomid.net or the champion threads here on teamliquid. Just search for your champion. Most have pages of in depth discussion that will help you a lot. I'd recommend branching out from the 3 you listed, and trying whatever is free. Basically, by the time you hit 30 you want 1 champion for each role that you feel comfortable with and enjoy playing. Ashe is a good AD. Zil is primarily a support in todays meta. Cho can be put almost anywhere but is best top lane. Also learn an AP Mid, Annie is cheap and easy, and a Jungler, I suggest Warwick.
3) Ya. Pretty much. A lot of TLers afk in LiquidParty channel on the chat. You can pop in there and see who's on. Many are willing to play with you and help you learn the ropes. I made many friends there while leveling up. You get what you put into the community. Try to add people you see on the forums and in the summoner list thread. Another great way to make friends.
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On February 07 2012 18:16 Mios wrote:
So I've been a fan of Miss Fortune since her release but always chose "better" AD carries in ranked because I thought she was sub par. Now I'm seeing lots of teams picking her (Chaox mostly and some euro ADs) if Sivir isn't available. Is this just because graves and vayne were nerfed? Have the pros just figured out that she is better than we thought? She's squishy and tricky to use, but I always thought her ultimate was good if you aim it correctly, but annoying cuz its a channel so you can't auto attack during it, not to mention it does magic dmg, along with her other skills besides Double Up. A lot of magic dmg kind of like Kog/Ez/Corki I guess. And her passive is nice but its so easy for it to reset from any stray creep dmg.
What do you guys think about getting the 10% mpen mastery and go like 27/4/0? Or just forget about her magic dmg and go pure AD+rejuv 21/0/9 like most other ADs? She goes oom pretty fast.
What about a hubrid build?
Wriggles+PD better than IE rush on her?
Didn't see a thread about MF and I don't really want to start one, but I'm seeing her more and more and it intrigues me and I want to see what people think about her. :O
Chaox is doing alot of games with her indeed. Shes fun, has alot of pushingpower and can trade with other ADs when her W is on. Her ult is my favorite ult in the game, the laugh... the laugh.... its so evil 
Had a game with MF yesterday where we got jumped by their whole team, our Sona ulted 4 of them, our Jarvan did his ulti on all 4 and I channeled my ulti. The only player not in there was Fizz, but he was so nice to Q into the Jarvanult, giving me a penta I was fed, and they werent that good, but it was fun
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On February 07 2012 18:16 Mios wrote:
So I've been a fan of Miss Fortune since her release but always chose "better" AD carries in ranked because I thought she was sub par. Now I'm seeing lots of teams picking her (Chaox mostly and some euro ADs) if Sivir isn't available. Is this just because graves and vayne were nerfed? Have the pros just figured out that she is better than we thought? She's squishy and tricky to use, but I always thought her ultimate was good if you aim it correctly, but annoying cuz its a channel so you can't auto attack during it, not to mention it does magic dmg, along with her other skills besides Double Up. A lot of magic dmg kind of like Kog/Ez/Corki I guess. And her passive is nice but its so easy for it to reset from any stray creep dmg.
What do you guys think about getting the 10% mpen mastery and go like 27/4/0? Or just forget about her magic dmg and go pure AD+rejuv 21/0/9 like most other ADs? She goes oom pretty fast.
What about a hubrid build?
Wriggles+PD better than IE rush on her?
Didn't see a thread about MF and I don't really want to start one, but I'm seeing her more and more and it intrigues me and I want to see what people think about her. :O
i dont play mf much but i would assume going 23/0/7 skipping lifesteal/havoc for the mpen would be best. thats what choax recommends on corki and i dont see why it would be different on mf.
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I was playing a bit of jungle Trundle the other day, and I was thinking, why don't we ever see him solo top? His passive would give him a shitton of sustain in lane (more than in the jungle), his Q and R are really good against the usual tanky ADs that we see top and W+E makes him hard to gank.
I mean I'm pretty sure there's a reason but which one?
edit: err should I post this in the trundle thread instead?
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Trundle doesn't scale as hard as other popular solotops, lacks hard cc than others may provide, and while his kit is amazing for jungling/teamfighting, he really only has one damage ability outside of his ultimate, which despite the AD malus doesn't really allow him to make good trades.
Btw, how does the AD debuff work relative to bonus/total AD? I guess is it deduced from the total AD of the target, meaning spells scaling on bonus AD aren't affected by it?
Also, repost of a question from some pages back: does spellvamp work on the true damage from Olaf's E ? The wiki says so (and also that his ultimate reduce the recoil from E, I tought damage reduction didn't work on true damage?).
That would mean that with a WotA bearer near him and his level 5 W on, Olaf actually heals from his E (1% of it), even more so with his ult on.
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On February 07 2012 18:49 BobMcJohnson wrote:
I was playing a bit of jungle Trundle the other day, and I was thinking, why don't we ever see him solo top? His passive would give him a shitton of sustain in lane (more than in the jungle), his Q and R are really good against the usual tanky ADs that we see top and W+E makes him hard to gank.
I mean I'm pretty sure there's a reason but which one?
edit: err should I post this in the trundle thread instead?
he's a good laner but a godlike ganker from the jungle. much harder to be unpredictable and gank like crazy when you're tied to a lane :3
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY LOCO <3
Question: Why doesn't he stream more? :<
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just went agaisnt a jungle poppy that i fed and my god is poppy so strong. he had mercs and a triforce and was just beasting team fights.
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