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Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 03 2012 20:26 GMT
#941
On February 04 2012 05:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 05:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Ok daft punk doesnt "suck" but when all doublelift plays is alive 2007 it gets really annoying. Jiji's music going downhill. Everyone else plays pandora. Streams getting harder and harder to watch.


Watch stream. Listen to your own music.

I am a fucking genius.


im trying to learn by hearing what streamers have to say but dont wanna pay the price of having to endure bad music.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 03 2012 20:30 GMT
#942
On February 04 2012 05:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 05:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
On February 04 2012 05:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Ok daft punk doesnt "suck" but when all doublelift plays is alive 2007 it gets really annoying. Jiji's music going downhill. Everyone else plays pandora. Streams getting harder and harder to watch.


Watch stream. Listen to your own music.

I am a fucking genius.


im trying to learn by hearing what streamers have to say but dont wanna pay the price of having to endure bad music.

Then don't watch the stream. Or suck it up. People have been complaining about music on streams as long as I can remember from BW to SC2 to whatever, and it's always absolutely vapid and inane.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
February 03 2012 20:31 GMT
#943
On February 04 2012 05:26 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 05:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
On February 04 2012 05:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Ok daft punk doesnt "suck" but when all doublelift plays is alive 2007 it gets really annoying. Jiji's music going downhill. Everyone else plays pandora. Streams getting harder and harder to watch.


Watch stream. Listen to your own music.

I am a fucking genius.


im trying to learn by hearing what streamers have to say but dont wanna pay the price of having to endure bad music.


Yeah - a good fraction of the entertainment or educational (if you're that kind of stream-watcher) value is conversation/comments during the games. Fortunately SV/s music - my fave stream atm is ok to my taste and he doesn't just play pandora.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 20:34:06
February 03 2012 20:32 GMT
#944
On February 04 2012 05:24 BlackMagister wrote:
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On February 04 2012 05:21 Treadmill wrote:
On February 04 2012 05:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Have any of the TSM scrims today been close? I caught I think the first game vs AL where AL got aced in top lane then ff'd.

Snowball meta. I don't know whether Chaox was just entirely right about that or whether TSM is just playing to it hard core.

Well no, games can snowball but I don't think these games prove anything especially since the "real" pro games haven't been all snowball meta. Chaox was just overreacting.

Also listening to your own music is not always a solution if you want to hear what they say. Although I don't really care about the music they play so it's not a problem. Numa numa all the way.

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei~!

On February 04 2012 03:43 Nos- wrote:
Has anyone tried out the new Locket properly? The only game where I played support and grabbed it my Zigg had 947 AP. Everything just died in 3 seconds couldn't really tell if the shield did anything :/. Would be nice to know if the item's worth getting for some support heros.

In theory team-wide shield is pretty neat, even if the numbers are a little bit on the low side since that can always be changed. One thing that concerns me though is that it's pretty expensive for a Support to buy, especially since it's competing with Shurelya for that 2k gold slot. Shurelya is also a more obvious build path because most supports want to open Fairie+Wards+Pot, which transitions into Philo into Shurelya much more easily than trying to build a HoG+Emblem out of nowhere. Also, if you need health on a support, sometime you even elect for the Kindlegem over the HoG just because the HoG takes time to pay back while Kindlegem gives you valuable CDR.

When it comes to others buying them so you can stack them, it only really would make sense for only top lane (I can't see AP/AD carries buying this) or maybe junglers? But again, a lot of them might not want to itemise in this direction either depending on the matchup.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 03 2012 20:33 GMT
#945
people complain about music, people complain about no music. hard to appease the masses as a streamer.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
February 03 2012 20:34 GMT
#946
Well I for one am happy that I don't have to listen to k-pop all the time when I watch LoL streams.

.... sorry, is that TL heresy?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
February 03 2012 20:35 GMT
#947
On February 04 2012 05:33 Mogwai wrote:
people complain about music, people complain about no music. hard to appease the masses as a streamer.

Provide stream without music and a sperate music stream. Isn't that obvious?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
February 03 2012 20:36 GMT
#948
My teacher just walked by and asked if I was on teamliquid. Apparently he reads but doesnt post. If you teach MAR1 and see this you should post =p
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 03 2012 20:36 GMT
#949
Snowball meta was Chaox trying to explain away TSM getting outplayed without actually taking responsibility for playing and picking like crap.

Like the Kings of Europe tourney was anything BUT snowball.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 03 2012 20:37 GMT
#950
On February 04 2012 05:35 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 05:33 Mogwai wrote:
people complain about music, people complain about no music. hard to appease the masses as a streamer.

Provide stream without music and a sperate music stream. Isn't that obvious?

so much work...
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
February 03 2012 20:38 GMT
#951
On February 04 2012 05:36 Two_DoWn wrote:
Snowball meta was Chaox trying to explain away TSM getting outplayed without actually taking responsibility for playing and picking like crap.

Like the Kings of Europe tourney was anything BUT snowball.

I don't understand why snowball is a meta. If you lose lanes, jungle camps, buffs and dragons you kinda deserved to lose. Snowball is snowball. It's like saying warding or dragon fighting is a meta.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 03 2012 20:42 GMT
#952
On February 04 2012 05:38 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 05:36 Two_DoWn wrote:
Snowball meta was Chaox trying to explain away TSM getting outplayed without actually taking responsibility for playing and picking like crap.

Like the Kings of Europe tourney was anything BUT snowball.

I don't understand why snowball is a meta. If you lose lanes, jungle camps, buffs and dragons you kinda deserved to lose. Snowball is snowball. It's like saying warding or dragon fighting is a meta.

Exactly, it makes no sense. If you play like shit, you are gonna get romped. Chaox just wanted some sort of excuse, so he picked "its impossible to come back now cuz people are so good, so all games are gonna be 30 minute snowballs from now on."
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
February 03 2012 21:04 GMT
#953
On February 04 2012 05:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 05:38 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On February 04 2012 05:36 Two_DoWn wrote:
Snowball meta was Chaox trying to explain away TSM getting outplayed without actually taking responsibility for playing and picking like crap.

Like the Kings of Europe tourney was anything BUT snowball.

I don't understand why snowball is a meta. If you lose lanes, jungle camps, buffs and dragons you kinda deserved to lose. Snowball is snowball. It's like saying warding or dragon fighting is a meta.

Exactly, it makes no sense. If you play like shit, you are gonna get romped. Chaox just wanted some sort of excuse, so he picked "its impossible to come back now cuz people are so good, so all games are gonna be 30 minute snowballs from now on."

I think that chaox thought that one team or one player have to take every fight, which is completly wrong. M5 for exemple took an early blue, and with that new hedge, continue on their invade, while TSM felt they had to react, each time too late, not enough, and each time giving their ass.
While CLG, as we saw in the King of Europe, waited for the right time to counter M5 invasion.

But the idea behind the snowball is not completly stupid in some situation. I feel like sometime, some hero just get out of control, even if the team is losing overall (like that shyvana in game 2 or M5 vs CLG).
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Thehummel
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark122 Posts
February 03 2012 21:04 GMT
#954
Has anyone else started getting random FPS drops from this patch? I can easily go from constant 30-40 FPS to 10-15FPS, making it nearly unplayable.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23463 Posts
February 03 2012 21:04 GMT
#955
Snowball is losing so bad everywhere that the game isn't even close. It happens in SC and all games really. Advantages pile upon advantages and let you do either advantageous plays. You just need to not get owned so bad that a good team doesn't let you recover.
aka Teutonica
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 03 2012 21:09 GMT
#956
On February 03 2012 22:13 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 20:02 RogerX wrote:
Those Maokai ganks are just amazing, I mean, i've even had Taric ganks before but nothing beats Maokai ganks.


You disgrace the art of war.

+ Show Spoiler +
In case you don't play Pantheon and just think I'm a jerk, jungle Pantheon ganks are without peer.


On February 03 2012 22:19 Slayer91 wrote:
Yeah that 0.0000000001 stun sure is scary.


On February 03 2012 22:22 Alaric wrote:
When his spears did apply red buff, it could have been, but now? :/

I know this conversation is from way back, but I just wanted to clear some things up since it seems some people don't understand jungle Pantheon.

1. Pantheon does not come to gank your lane. Pantheon comes to farm your lane, because champions are worth more gold than jungle mobs or minions.

2. If Pantheon shows up, he's not here to help you kill your opponent. He's here to show you how it's done, because you were taking too long. You should be taking notes.

3. Pantheon does not jungle because he's a good jungler. He jungles to teach the enemy a lesson about honor and how it feels to 1v2, because he's sick of being camped top.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23463 Posts
February 03 2012 21:10 GMT
#957
LOL, that's probably why smash plays jungle.
aka Teutonica
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 03 2012 21:21 GMT
#958
I stand humbled.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 21:27:03
February 03 2012 21:25 GMT
#959
On February 04 2012 00:11 Slayer91 wrote:
You don't even need to communicate that much. If you ask them something, or ping for something, and you SEE ON THE MINIMAP they aren't doing it. That's fine. Maybe they disagree with you. You see what happens on CLG vent when someone disagrees? Just accept it and make the next best possible play. Don't just assume that your opinion is god's own truth and if they don't seem to be coming follow through with it anyway. It's just stupidly stubborn.


I'm quoting this because this is probably the biggest leak people who played RTS games or something like poker before, without even realizing it. I'm pretty sure if you sum up most of Teuts statements when he's not spamming random crap together you get a pretty damn decent 1500 elo to 2000 elo guide out of it.


PS: I'm thinking about making a "How to improve at LoL and gain 300 elo in 30 days"-guide, but before I start working on that I'll go ahead and hit 1800+ myself with my own advice.

PPS: Am I the only one here who finds trying to gain elo, while entirely possible, absolutely tedious?

PPPS: brb proving the "while entirely possible" part to myself.


PPPPS: WE NEED A THREAD WITH FAMOUS QUOTES. The Pantheon thing from above is pure gold, so was the whole "You do not get into an argument with Smash about toplane" from Usanmimi a few days back.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 21:29:50
February 03 2012 21:27 GMT
#960
On February 04 2012 06:09 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 22:13 Alzadar wrote:
On February 03 2012 20:02 RogerX wrote:
Those Maokai ganks are just amazing, I mean, i've even had Taric ganks before but nothing beats Maokai ganks.


You disgrace the art of war.

+ Show Spoiler +
In case you don't play Pantheon and just think I'm a jerk, jungle Pantheon ganks are without peer.


Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 22:19 Slayer91 wrote:
Yeah that 0.0000000001 stun sure is scary.


Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 22:22 Alaric wrote:
When his spears did apply red buff, it could have been, but now? :/

I know this conversation is from way back, but I just wanted to clear some things up since it seems some people don't understand jungle Pantheon.

1. Pantheon does not come to gank your lane. Pantheon comes to farm your lane, because champions are worth more gold than jungle mobs or minions.

2. If Pantheon shows up, he's not here to help you kill your opponent. He's here to show you how it's done, because you were taking too long. You should be taking notes.

3. Pantheon does not jungle because he's a good jungler. He jungles to teach the enemy a lesson about honor and how it feels to 1v2, because he's sick of being camped top.


this is one of my favorite posts in the history of TL.


EDIT: I'm on board for a famous quotes thread. One of my favorites was from the Loco interview when his team was talking about balance and his teammate said "Nerf Loco." I laughed for a good 2 minutes.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
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