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On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo.
moooo
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On February 03 2012 17:39 Phrost wrote:
Ziggs also has hilarious quotes. The main reason I play him is to taunt the enemies.
The dance man, the dance.
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On February 03 2012 17:43 rwrzr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo. moooo
talking about clear speed, sej is equivalent if not stronger than alistar. If you want to argue about what they bring to a team fight, that's a different argument altogether. Sej offers stronger ganks, and more sustained cc (permafrost). However, that's a different argument all together.
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On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo.
On the other hand, Sejuani CAN be milked.
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On February 03 2012 18:03 starfries wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo. On the other hand, Sejuani CAN be milked.
Well that line didn't take long to be crossed
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On February 03 2012 18:05 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 18:03 starfries wrote:On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo. On the other hand, Sejuani CAN be milked. Well that line didn't take long to be crossed
It was low-hanging fruit, how could I resist
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On February 03 2012 18:05 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 18:03 starfries wrote:On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo. On the other hand, Sejuani CAN be milked. Well that line didn't take long to be crossed
LOLOL
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On February 03 2012 18:03 starfries wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo. On the other hand, Sejuani CAN be milked.
Do we know if her boar is male or female yet?
On a more serious note, to the guy who claims having her figured out by building FULL TANK: Please share runes/masteries/item builds or just stay quiet.
"DUDE THAT CHAMP IS SO STRONG IF YOU BUILD HIM FULL DAMAGE"
"Which damage?"
"I DONT CARE FULL DAMAGE DUDE"
-.-
PS: As someone who tried her a lot both top and jungle my conclusions are so far:
a) She is weak as a jungler because everything she does is done better by Maokai.
b) She is weak solo top, UNLESS you pair her with a strong ganking jungler who can abuse your massive CC.
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On February 03 2012 18:02 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 17:43 rwrzr wrote:On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo. moooo Sej offers stronger ganks
sorry i cannot agree there. alistar was known for being a roamer for a reason. his ganks are really really strong.
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On February 03 2012 18:08 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 18:03 starfries wrote:On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo. On the other hand, Sejuani CAN be milked. Do we know if her boar is male or female yet? On a more serious note, to the guy who claims having her figured out by building FULL TANK: Please share runes/masteries/item builds or just stay quiet. "DUDE THAT CHAMP IS SO STRONG IF YOU BUILD HIM FULL DAMAGE" "Which damage?" "I DONT CARE FULL DAMAGE DUDE" -.- PS: As someone who tried her a lot both top and jungle my conclusions are so far: a) She is weak as a jungler because everything she does is done better by Maokai. b) She is weak solo top, UNLESS you pair her with a strong ganking jungler who can abuse your massive CC.
He said Sejuani can be milked, not her pig.
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So far I've rather enjoyed playig Sejuani, especially in a Frost setup we ran (trynda top (only non frost), Anivia Mid, Ashe-Nunu bot, Sejuani jungle). The thing I feel she'd be really weak against is jungle invades/counter jungling, because she does fuck-all in duels. The item setup I run on her are:
Regen pendant +pot
Philostone
Boots
Heart of Gold
Merc Threads
Shurelya's/Randuin's (depending on setups etc which is first)
Force of Nature
<Whatever tanky item applies to the situation>
So far this has been a pleasant set for me, the early gp/5's give some hp and regen, and building them off into their respective evolved items set's you up to be tanky enough for the midgame aswell as giving your more utility in their speed increase/debuff. At this point people basically don't want to attack you anymore so I generally build a Force for the speed and incomming AoE, after which I either build more tanky stuff or an Atma's/Ryalis (if they clump squishies a lot)/Triforce (if I'm fed and duelling some).
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Sej is one of those champs that is kinda dependent on your team but shes hella fun to play because once you get past her somewhat slow start you just LOL slow/stun everyone and can serve up people on a platter for people. The question is if you have people to take advantage of this but so far in ranked I average like 20 assists on her with a 75% win with her.
Side note I just played a normal as Karthus while drunk as fuck and it was the most chill game ever.....We lost but everyone in the game was soo chill :D 29-16-21 ^_^ so fun when its a back and forth game and everyone is just joking around and 0 rageing.
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On February 03 2012 18:08 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 18:03 starfries wrote:On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo. On the other hand, Sejuani CAN be milked. Do we know if her boar is male or female yet? On a more serious note, to the guy who claims having her figured out by building FULL TANK: Please share runes/masteries/item builds or just stay quiet. "DUDE THAT CHAMP IS SO STRONG IF YOU BUILD HIM FULL DAMAGE" "Which damage?" "I DONT CARE FULL DAMAGE DUDE" -.- PS: As someone who tried her a lot both top and jungle my conclusions are so far: a) She is weak as a jungler because everything she does is done better by Maokai. b) She is weak solo top, UNLESS you pair her with a strong ganking jungler who can abuse your massive CC.
boar's gender technically doesn't matter.... can be milked anyway
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On February 03 2012 18:02 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 17:43 rwrzr wrote:On February 03 2012 17:40 Zdrastochye wrote:On February 03 2012 17:21 wei2coolman wrote:On February 03 2012 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Sej i think needs only slightly higher base damages early levels to quicken her jungle clear. To me, her kit is really great for arranged 5's but she suffers the problem of a slow jungler who can't keep up with a faster and more aggressive jungler in arranged play (which atm is what most teams use, such as udyr). But her utility is god-like and lategame you literally can't get away from her while she has similar initation power to ashe. She's no good in solo q just like galio though - an initiating tank with good utility but that doesn't do enough damage to outright kill someone. She's not "fun" to play for most because of that. She also has to rely on the team to not be full derp to capitalize.
Viktor was alright but his q needed to be buffed to make him on par with others, and it was. He should be on par with most champs now and I think he's a good pick like any other AP. Matchup dependant, obviously. Why do people keep thinking shee needs higher base damage, so fucking silly. We're starting to see jungle alistar, but no one is complaining about "oh alistar needs more base dmg to clear jungle faster". And i'm 100% sure that sejuani clears faster than alistar. 1: Ali has more base damage than Sej. 2: Ali's ad scales better than Sej. 4: The base damage added from Ali's passive whether he takes Q W or E is 10 magic damage per second. 7: Ali cannot be milked. F: You're comparing Badassistar to a fucking pigmongering whore. Nothing more need be said imo. moooo talking about clear speed, sej is equivalent if not stronger than alistar. If you want to argue about what they bring to a team fight, that's a different argument altogether. Sej offers stronger ganks, and more sustained cc (permafrost). However, that's a different argument all together.
Ali clears way faster than Sej after a few levels and with a Sheen, and his ganks are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay way way way way way way better. Ali ganks are just the best in the game, bar none, except maybe maxed E Rammus. But regarding lvl2-5 ganks, Ali is just unbeatable.
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Dont forget Maokais double CC + slow ganks.
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most annoying trends in lol, go
1) "real". real ANNOYING jesus if i hear this word one more time used alone, gonna pop a bitch. i have no problem with "wow you're real good" or "really OP ult lol" but just "real" makes me want to punch my own dick.
2) "this is my smurf" or "this is just an alt" or "i'm really 1900 check my main" - i hear this at least twice a game. apparently 1900 is actually normal elo and everyone just wants to play on their smurfs.
3) "i don't care if we lose this game, i will get it back easily, you will keep losing" - pretty sure this started from TL, tbh. the elo police thread. IF YOU CAN WIN GAMES SO EASILY, WHY ARE YOU NOT 2K ELO BRO. every time i hear someone say this, i feel like just throwing the game so they can eat their words
4) "this <anything>": "this sivir losing us the game," "this yi!" "report this nocturne" - i guess this is more of a bother in ranked, where there is only 1 of a hero in any game. "this" is just such a wasteful prefix when there is only one sivir or yi or nocturne in your game. just say "report nocturne" or "sivir is really throwing the game!" or "our yi is bad!" why does everyone want to be dyrus or reginald or whichever dumbass brobrobrobrobro started this fad?
5) "sigh" - fuck you, when you think something's funny you don't type "laugh" do you? when you get ganked do you type "grimace"? it is a well known fact that anyone who has ever typed "<enter> sigh <enter>" is a virgin. SCIENTIFIC FACT.
^those are the things that bug me in LoL. at least chat-wise. what about you?
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On February 03 2012 19:11 gtrsrs wrote:
5) "sigh" - fuck you, when you think something's funny you don't type "laugh" do you? when you get ganked do you type "grimace"? it is a well known fact that anyone who has ever typed "<enter> sigh <enter>" is a virgin. SCIENTIFIC FACT.
OMG that gave me away? GOD CURSE SCIENCE!
Real
*hides*
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using asterisks is worse. *sigh*
if you really want to get mad at someone for typing something that shouldn't be typed, the king is certainly "..."
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On February 03 2012 19:15 Attakijing wrote:
using asterisks is worse. *sigh*
if you really want to get mad at someone for typing something that shouldn't be typed, the king is certainly "..."
your'e right about *sigh*, in my blind rage i completely forgot that people use the asterisks too
but i don't have a problem with "..."
i type it when someone does something inexplicably stupid for no reason and i'm just left speechless. like "hey i really don't think towerdiving 5 people when you're at 10% health and you just lost us baron and the game" really doesn't convey the same disappointment as "..." imo
like, i'm too ashamed to even write words at you lol
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I hate when people go "lol" or "rofl" when they're mad. Like "rofl this graves" when clearly they're not amused, just raging.
On the EU server I think the equivalent is xD. If you get in an argument you can tell how mad they are by how many times they use it.
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