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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 29 2012 23:20 GMT
#3241
Why not Morello? Considering his range, DFG seems like you'd only use the active if somebody jumps you during teamfights, which you should avoid if you can.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 23:36:19
January 29 2012 23:26 GMT
#3242
I like the prospect of 30% mpen on the DFG active, even if the opportunity to is rare (too bad siege mode doesn't increase DFG range, also too bad E+DFG doesn't proc stun )

The most opportunities I've had for DFG in siege mode was pre-Akali nerf when people would run her mid just to have her on the team. I'd go flash+exhaust and man mode people in melee range. This ties in to my teamfight positioning with glass-cannon AP's being really bad.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 29 2012 23:51 GMT
#3243
quite funny to see how TOO and Reginald are having a hard time in sub lvl 30 games on EUW. they're probably trolling though. Chaox is something like 13:3 in his ranked games, he lost his last game pretty badly though. TRM was 5:1 the last time i watched his stream.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 00:14:36
January 30 2012 00:14 GMT
#3244
Thank fully I have confirmation now.... why were people saying that chaox goes trinity force first on Corki? He hasn't for a looong time. When other people started going infinity edge first he looked at it, tried it, and agreed it was better and switched. Just mentioning because (a) false information is bad and (b) he's playing corki on stream and going IE first right now.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 30 2012 00:17 GMT
#3245
On January 30 2012 09:14 Treadmill wrote:
Thank fully I have confirmation now.... why were people saying that chaox goes trinity force first on Corki? He hasn't for a looong time. When other people started going infinity edge first he looked at it, tried it, and agreed it was better and switched. Just mentioning because (a) false information is bad and (b) he's playing corki on stream and going IE first right now.


Most pros are going IE. I haven't seen one go Trinity in at least two weeks but since I haven't watched every streamer nor have I watched every single tournament game at Kiev or the Kings of Europe tournament I didn't feel a need to argue it. But yeah, while there may be people who still get it or who get it situationally I'm pretty certain that nearly every AD carry player prefers IE on Corki now.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 30 2012 00:22 GMT
#3246
Holy balls, tried Lux for the first time since I bought her friday... 40s cd on her ult at level 3, reduced to 24s with max CDR, on such a nuke?
She's really a lot of fun, too bad her CDs are so long, but they come with damage, range and utility so that's pretty understandable.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 30 2012 00:24 GMT
#3247
On January 30 2012 08:51 DoXa wrote:
quite funny to see how TOO and Reginald are having a hard time in sub lvl 30 games on EUW. they're probably trolling though. Chaox is something like 13:3 in his ranked games, he lost his last game pretty badly though. TRM was 5:1 the last time i watched his stream.

What's with all the TSM guis playing on EUW? they switching servers they're playing on or something?
liftlift > tsm
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 00:27:23
January 30 2012 00:26 GMT
#3248
On January 30 2012 09:17 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 09:14 Treadmill wrote:
Thank fully I have confirmation now.... why were people saying that chaox goes trinity force first on Corki? He hasn't for a looong time. When other people started going infinity edge first he looked at it, tried it, and agreed it was better and switched. Just mentioning because (a) false information is bad and (b) he's playing corki on stream and going IE first right now.


Most pros are going IE. I haven't seen one go Trinity in at least two weeks but since I haven't watched every streamer nor have I watched every single tournament game at Kiev or the Kings of Europe tournament I didn't feel a need to argue it. But yeah, while there may be people who still get it or who get it situationally I'm pretty certain that nearly every AD carry player prefers IE on Corki now.

I know this. Just a couple people on the last few pages in the inane sheep conversation were saying that chaox went trinity first, and I wasn't completely sure they were wrong until I watched his stream.
On January 30 2012 09:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 08:51 DoXa wrote:
quite funny to see how TOO and Reginald are having a hard time in sub lvl 30 games on EUW. they're probably trolling though. Chaox is something like 13:3 in his ranked games, he lost his last game pretty badly though. TRM was 5:1 the last time i watched his stream.

What's with all the TSM guis playing on EUW? they switching servers they're playing on or something?


Yeah. They want to play ranked 5's on a ladder where people actually play that.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 00:35:51
January 30 2012 00:28 GMT
#3249
On January 30 2012 08:20 Alaric wrote:
Why not Morello? Considering his range, DFG seems like you'd only use the active if somebody jumps you during teamfights, which you should avoid if you can.


DFG is a waste on xerath if you are playing him correctly, you may hit it occasionally when you can just walk into fights, but Morellos is a FAR better item overall on him, as CDR is crux on him and you are going to be too far away with his ult especially.

You have to smartcast to get his combo off reliably. It should be WERQRRQ, you stack the E right after activating the W (while you're still seiging) and it should go off if you were within range when you started the siege.

Early on Xerath is one of the most mana hungry champs in the game compared to his cooldowns (lvl1-4). Dont bother trying to harass much until you have level 2 Q, just use it enough at level 1 to keep yourself at full mana without wasting regen. At level 2 you have a huge opportunity to harass pretty much anyone out of lane, just try not to ruin your own last hits and shoot through the creeps when possible vs pushers.

After 2 Drings you just constantly try to harass, get ganks because xerath is probably the easiest mid to get kills off of a gank in the game no matter where he is in lane or how much health he has.

The most important part about playing xerath is saving his ult too much, the CD is really short and they cannot retaliate when you use it. Do not be afraid to just pop the full combo even if you don't think you can finish them, maybe you wont, maybe you will, but you end up forcing them out of lane and getting way ahead. You'll also get more kills than you expect chasing with extra Q's and random stuff after the combo, you don't have to set up a perfect kill.

Speaking of short range stuff, what summoner are people runnning on Xerath? Ignite is pretty bad most of the time as you arent close enough to use it when you need too. Exhaust is ok as a defensive spell. Tele is tele. I've been running Heal actually pretty frequently, as it gives a nice boost to sustain early, and is good for healing your whole team during the poke wars you want to get into late with xerath as well as being cool for baiting nubs who dive you. Surge is just....well its not much AP and is really obnoxious to use .
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
January 30 2012 00:35 GMT
#3250
Would Xerath's W increase his range on stuff like DFG and Gunblade?
derp
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 30 2012 00:36 GMT
#3251
On January 30 2012 09:35 Jaso wrote:
Would Xerath's W increase his range on stuff like DFG and Gunblade?


no
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 30 2012 00:37 GMT
#3252
my biggest problem with xerath is that i get so caught up in harassing that i forget you're supposed to kill the little dudes in the lanes, and so I end up with 40 cs @ 20 mins and lose the game despite starting 5-1 in that same time period.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 00:42:41
January 30 2012 00:37 GMT
#3253
and reginald can't end his first ranked game despite having 23 kills on cassio, teammates too heavy. glad he expieriences the same thing I did. he calls his teammates faggot. rages hard. pure gold. i have nothing against him, but this makes me happy
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 30 2012 01:12 GMT
#3254
why are they even playing solo ranked games if the objective is ranked 5s? just to build up ip...?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 30 2012 01:14 GMT
#3255
On January 30 2012 10:12 UniversalSnip wrote:
why are they even playing solo ranked games if the objective is ranked 5s? just to build up ip...?


ofcourse, how would they play ranked 5s without a good amount of runes and champs? you don't get enough IP just from leveling up. ranked gives more IP/game and has better players overall
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 30 2012 01:15 GMT
#3256
On January 30 2012 10:12 UniversalSnip wrote:
why are they even playing solo ranked games if the objective is ranked 5s? just to build up ip...?

If I'm not mistaken, not everyone is lvl 30 yet? I'm not certain.
currently rooting for myself.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 30 2012 01:21 GMT
#3257
What does SS mean... I know it's supposed to be the Euro equivalent of MIA, but I don't know what it stands for.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
January 30 2012 01:23 GMT
#3258
On January 30 2012 10:21 BlackMagister wrote:
What does SS mean... I know it's supposed to be the Euro equivalent of MIA, but I don't know what it stands for.

miSSing, I've heard it also means something else.
3.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 01:25:15
January 30 2012 01:25 GMT
#3259
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 01:26:20
January 30 2012 01:25 GMT
#3260
miSSing is the etymology of the term I think, I could be wrong on that. An alternate etymology is "stay safe" which I've heard some people say on forums but I feel like that was more of a joke to start with and came after the term was already popular from miSS.
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