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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 30 2012 02:42 GMT
#3281
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 02:57:05
January 30 2012 02:50 GMT
#3282
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 30 2012 02:54 GMT
#3283
On January 30 2012 10:14 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 10:12 UniversalSnip wrote:
why are they even playing solo ranked games if the objective is ranked 5s? just to build up ip...?


ofcourse, how would they play ranked 5s without a good amount of runes and champs? you don't get enough IP just from leveling up. ranked gives more IP/game and has better players overall


Is this true? What is the ratio?
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
January 30 2012 02:58 GMT
#3284
I'm 99% sure it gives the same IP.
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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 30 2012 02:59 GMT
#3285
On January 30 2012 11:58 Craton wrote:
I'm 99% sure it gives the same IP.


Ya. That's what I thought too. I was under the impression that Dominion gave the highest amount of IP/time.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 30 2012 03:14 GMT
#3286
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 30 2012 03:19 GMT
#3287
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


Ranked definitely can (and will, if you're doing it into the 3 digit level).
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
January 30 2012 03:21 GMT
#3288
On January 30 2012 11:59 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 11:58 Craton wrote:
I'm 99% sure it gives the same IP.


Ya. That's what I thought too. I was under the impression that Dominion gave the highest amount of IP/time.

It would if more people played it, I have ~7-9 minute Dominion queues on average
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
January 30 2012 03:21 GMT
#3289
On January 30 2012 12:19 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


Ranked definitely can (and will, if you're doing it into the 3 digit level).


The 3 digit level?

So you won't get banned if you're dodging in 90 elo, but will in 110 elo? o_o
And I don't see why queue dodging is a bannable offense.
derp
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 30 2012 03:24 GMT
#3290
On January 30 2012 12:19 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


Ranked definitely can (and will, if you're doing it into the 3 digit level).

Really? I know people who dodged down to mess around at the level and I've never heard of anyone being banned.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 30 2012 03:26 GMT
#3291
On January 30 2012 12:21 Jaso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 12:19 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


Ranked definitely can (and will, if you're doing it into the 3 digit level).


The 3 digit level?

So you won't get banned if you're dodging in 90 elo, but will in 110 elo? o_o
And I don't see why queue dodging is a bannable offense.


I mean, 3 digits of dodges (100+). Riot can't really tell when in champion select you dodge, iirc, and dodging that many times wastes quite a bit of time for people, even if you only dodge at the start.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
January 30 2012 03:33 GMT
#3292
lol@those bans
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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
January 30 2012 03:43 GMT
#3293
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


On this topic, does dodging in normal draft make you last pick for a few games? Every single game that's where I've been.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 30 2012 03:45 GMT
#3294
Epic 63 minute game with Cass mid.

Tankioepia is the way to go. Final build:

Deathcap
Rylai's
Warmog's
Frozen Heart
Force of Nature
Sorc boots

Enemy Brand built pure AP and got focused so hard. Took me forever to die with 120 MR 200+ armor and 3.5k HPs.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 30 2012 03:58 GMT
#3295
On January 30 2012 12:26 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 12:21 Jaso wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:19 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


Ranked definitely can (and will, if you're doing it into the 3 digit level).


The 3 digit level?

So you won't get banned if you're dodging in 90 elo, but will in 110 elo? o_o
And I don't see why queue dodging is a bannable offense.


I mean, 3 digits of dodges (100+). Riot can't really tell when in champion select you dodge, iirc, and dodging that many times wastes quite a bit of time for people, even if you only dodge at the start.

How do you know? Source? Cause I dont really get why they would ban you for dodging. You lose queue time and elo plus when you dodge you save other people the time of having to play with a shit team/troll.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 30 2012 04:03 GMT
#3296
On January 30 2012 12:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 12:26 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:21 Jaso wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:19 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


Ranked definitely can (and will, if you're doing it into the 3 digit level).


The 3 digit level?

So you won't get banned if you're dodging in 90 elo, but will in 110 elo? o_o
And I don't see why queue dodging is a bannable offense.


I mean, 3 digits of dodges (100+). Riot can't really tell when in champion select you dodge, iirc, and dodging that many times wastes quite a bit of time for people, even if you only dodge at the start.

How do you know? Source? Cause I dont really get why they would ban you for dodging. You lose queue time and elo plus when you dodge you save other people the time of having to play with a shit team/troll.


There's a guy named RickoniX who got banned with something like 200 more leaves than wins, at negative Elo. I don't know how many other people get up to QUITE that level, but if you're in the hundreds of leaves for Ranked you stick out like a sore thumb as an abuser.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9799 Posts
January 30 2012 04:10 GMT
#3297
On January 30 2012 13:03 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 12:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:26 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:21 Jaso wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:19 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


Ranked definitely can (and will, if you're doing it into the 3 digit level).


The 3 digit level?

So you won't get banned if you're dodging in 90 elo, but will in 110 elo? o_o
And I don't see why queue dodging is a bannable offense.


I mean, 3 digits of dodges (100+). Riot can't really tell when in champion select you dodge, iirc, and dodging that many times wastes quite a bit of time for people, even if you only dodge at the start.

How do you know? Source? Cause I dont really get why they would ban you for dodging. You lose queue time and elo plus when you dodge you save other people the time of having to play with a shit team/troll.


There's a guy named RickoniX who got banned with something like 200 more leaves than wins, at negative Elo. I don't know how many other people get up to QUITE that level, but if you're in the hundreds of leaves for Ranked you stick out like a sore thumb as an abuser.

Leaves aren't quite the same thing as dodges though. Leaves are when everyone's already finished picking and the game's started then you quit once you're in game. Dodges are when you're in champ select and you exit the client before everyone's done picking.
boomer hands
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 04:25:53
January 30 2012 04:12 GMT
#3298
On January 30 2012 13:10 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 13:03 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:26 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:21 Jaso wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:19 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


Ranked definitely can (and will, if you're doing it into the 3 digit level).


The 3 digit level?

So you won't get banned if you're dodging in 90 elo, but will in 110 elo? o_o
And I don't see why queue dodging is a bannable offense.


I mean, 3 digits of dodges (100+). Riot can't really tell when in champion select you dodge, iirc, and dodging that many times wastes quite a bit of time for people, even if you only dodge at the start.

How do you know? Source? Cause I dont really get why they would ban you for dodging. You lose queue time and elo plus when you dodge you save other people the time of having to play with a shit team/troll.


There's a guy named RickoniX who got banned with something like 200 more leaves than wins, at negative Elo. I don't know how many other people get up to QUITE that level, but if you're in the hundreds of leaves for Ranked you stick out like a sore thumb as an abuser.

Leaves aren't quite the same thing as dodges though. Leaves are when everyone's already finished picking and the game's started then you quit once you're in game. Dodges are when you're in champ select and you exit the client before everyone's done picking.


A ranked dodge is a loss and a leave (and Normals were from a bug at one point T_T). When you wind up with that many leaves from the system, Riot does notice.

e: To clarify, a dodge is always a leave in ranked, and if you accrue too many it's the same as leaving too many games to the system.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 30 2012 04:39 GMT
#3299
On January 30 2012 13:12 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 13:10 seRapH wrote:
On January 30 2012 13:03 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:26 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:21 Jaso wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:19 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Hey tl, shhh, don't tell anyone so this doesn't catch on
But since I've seen her brought up a bit in the past few pages
Lux is a great counterlaner to ryze
Shhh


Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


Ranked definitely can (and will, if you're doing it into the 3 digit level).


The 3 digit level?

So you won't get banned if you're dodging in 90 elo, but will in 110 elo? o_o
And I don't see why queue dodging is a bannable offense.


I mean, 3 digits of dodges (100+). Riot can't really tell when in champion select you dodge, iirc, and dodging that many times wastes quite a bit of time for people, even if you only dodge at the start.

How do you know? Source? Cause I dont really get why they would ban you for dodging. You lose queue time and elo plus when you dodge you save other people the time of having to play with a shit team/troll.


There's a guy named RickoniX who got banned with something like 200 more leaves than wins, at negative Elo. I don't know how many other people get up to QUITE that level, but if you're in the hundreds of leaves for Ranked you stick out like a sore thumb as an abuser.

Leaves aren't quite the same thing as dodges though. Leaves are when everyone's already finished picking and the game's started then you quit once you're in game. Dodges are when you're in champ select and you exit the client before everyone's done picking.


A ranked dodge is a loss and a leave (and Normals were from a bug at one point T_T). When you wind up with that many leaves from the system, Riot does notice.

e: To clarify, a dodge is always a leave in ranked, and if you accrue too many it's the same as leaving too many games to the system.

I'm like 80% sure a dodge is not a loss. You do get -10 elo, but you don't actually get a loss in your w/l record. That's how people can have like 90% winrate and be at triple digit elo. No idea if it's considered a "leave" tho.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 30 2012 04:43 GMT
#3300
On January 30 2012 13:39 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 13:12 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 13:10 seRapH wrote:
On January 30 2012 13:03 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:26 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:21 Jaso wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:19 Niton wrote:
On January 30 2012 12:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 30 2012 11:50 Ryalnos wrote:
[quote]

Somehow this shhh reminds me of progaming gossip.

Edit: By the way, you can't get banned for dodging normal games, can you? Been trying to add to my repertoire of supports today and some of these teams I'm getting matched with are less then cooperative so I'm wondering if Riot thinks 5 -> 10 -> etc. delays for requeue is enough deterrent.

Queue dodging never gets you banned afaik


Ranked definitely can (and will, if you're doing it into the 3 digit level).


The 3 digit level?

So you won't get banned if you're dodging in 90 elo, but will in 110 elo? o_o
And I don't see why queue dodging is a bannable offense.


I mean, 3 digits of dodges (100+). Riot can't really tell when in champion select you dodge, iirc, and dodging that many times wastes quite a bit of time for people, even if you only dodge at the start.

How do you know? Source? Cause I dont really get why they would ban you for dodging. You lose queue time and elo plus when you dodge you save other people the time of having to play with a shit team/troll.


There's a guy named RickoniX who got banned with something like 200 more leaves than wins, at negative Elo. I don't know how many other people get up to QUITE that level, but if you're in the hundreds of leaves for Ranked you stick out like a sore thumb as an abuser.

Leaves aren't quite the same thing as dodges though. Leaves are when everyone's already finished picking and the game's started then you quit once you're in game. Dodges are when you're in champ select and you exit the client before everyone's done picking.


A ranked dodge is a loss and a leave (and Normals were from a bug at one point T_T). When you wind up with that many leaves from the system, Riot does notice.

e: To clarify, a dodge is always a leave in ranked, and if you accrue too many it's the same as leaving too many games to the system.

I'm like 80% sure a dodge is not a loss. You do get -10 elo, but you don't actually get a loss in your w/l record. That's how people can have like 90% winrate and be at triple digit elo. No idea if it's considered a "leave" tho.


It might not be a loss (anymore?), but it's definitely a leave. One of my only leaves on my account is from queue-dodging when Riot accidentally re-enabled the 'dodge = leave' to normal queue, and I remember that there was even a big deal when it was removed originally!
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
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