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On January 25 2012 14:00 Brees wrote:
a support with the ability to shrink auto attack range for a set time (believe its possible since tristana's passive exists) and the ability to steal a small amount of ad/ap from a champion would make a new viable support.
The ad/ap reduction ends up being basically Sona's green power chord, though, doesn't it? An attack range reduction would be pretty cool though.
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On January 25 2012 12:55 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 12:48 NotSorry wrote:
techies would be fun loved bombing up jungle paths and watching people explode He'd get nerfed eve style for being a pub stomper though. Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 12:02 Shikyo wrote:
Another idea I got would be a large burst heal (let's say 600 hp at lvl 5) that then deals, say, 400 damage to you in a 10 second DoT. That way you can't use it to mass sustain but can use it for burst survival. Why not just make it a heal that gives you 200 hp? If they deal 205 damage to you won't you just die in 10 seconds? I guess regen might take care of the 5 extra health, but if it's much more than that you'd still end up dying which just makes it stupid. It's like Yorick ultimate in a heal, except you're just doomed for death instead of coming back alive 
Get imba heal, win the gank / skirmish / teamfight, lifesteal back enough health in peace or recall back to base (works even better in Dominion with fast recall).
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Idk if it's plausible, but maybe a support that can only heal him/herself but as another ability can transfer hp to another player. It could even be a channel transfer to help some balance issues if the heal is too strong. It doesn't even have to be a 1:1 ratio for hp drained (from the support) to hp healed (the target).
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Perhaps a regeneration based healer.
Heals for 1/1.5/2/2.5/3% of the targets health per sec + a flat amount 30/45/60/75/90+X per ability power over 5secs.
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How about a support who could transfer incoming damage taken by the person being attacked onto his/herself? That could be an interesting mechanic.
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I like the idea for Witch Doctor type support that casts buff/debuff/healing totems. Sort of like heimer turrets or shaco boxes but they have different effects.
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Shield partially powered by autoattacking during its duration was an idea from awhile back.
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some novel ideas for supports:
- support that is actually a tanky dps. Has three skills that make him immovable in lane and are basically useless in teamfights, his ult lets him 'clone' your carry, the clone runs around automatically so as to require no skill.
- support that does nothing but sustain, just heal heal heal with a little crappy utility thrown in. And a huge armor buff. Should make everybody except the most bursty ad heroes useless in lane.
- Support where you just slap your face on the keyboard and all your spells auto-target. Except the ult, that should be like a huge cone stun or something. Huggggge cone.
- Teemo. Actually he is not a support, but for some reason I just noticed he's tagged as one so they could just remake him with a different model and theme and bill him as the new support.
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On January 25 2012 14:08 pschiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 12:55 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On January 25 2012 12:48 NotSorry wrote:
techies would be fun loved bombing up jungle paths and watching people explode He'd get nerfed eve style for being a pub stomper though. On January 25 2012 12:02 Shikyo wrote:
Another idea I got would be a large burst heal (let's say 600 hp at lvl 5) that then deals, say, 400 damage to you in a 10 second DoT. That way you can't use it to mass sustain but can use it for burst survival. Why not just make it a heal that gives you 200 hp? If they deal 205 damage to you won't you just die in 10 seconds? I guess regen might take care of the 5 extra health, but if it's much more than that you'd still end up dying which just makes it stupid. It's like Yorick ultimate in a heal, except you're just doomed for death instead of coming back alive Get imba heal, win the gank / skirmish / teamfight, lifesteal back enough health in peace or recall back to base (works even better in Dominion with fast recall).
DoT and recall?
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Make an entirely skill-shot based support. Skill-shot snare or stun or slow, skill-shot heal or buff, skill-shot shield, etc.
Could do something cool like make some of them able to hit AOE, but be stronger/last longer if you only hit one target (Similar to Karthus Q), or being able to interchange them (through passive or ultimate?) from being able to only hit one target to passing through multiple people, with appropriate buffs and debuffs to their strength. That could create an interesting dynamic of where you want to have a smaller effect on more people, or a larger effect on only one or a few people.
Maybe an ability that throws a circle on the ground and heals you if you stand inside it, potentially with some kind of second activation effect, sort of like Lux's E?
Ideas!
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On January 25 2012 15:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Make an entirely skill-shot based support. Skill-shot snare or stun or slow, skill-shot heal or buff, skill-shot shield, etc.
Could do something cool like make some of them able to hit AOE, but be stronger/last longer if you only hit one target (Similar to Karthus Q), or being able to interchange them (through passive or ultimate?) from being able to only hit one target to passing through multiple people, with appropriate buffs and debuffs to their strength. That could create an interesting dynamic of where you want to have a smaller effect on more people, or a larger effect on only one or a few people.
Maybe an ability that throws a circle on the ground and heals you if you stand inside it, potentially with some kind of second activation effect, sort of like Lux's E?
Ideas!
That sounds like Lux right there, but I definitely would like to see a skillshot heal, that could really be interesting.
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On January 25 2012 14:45 UniversalSnip wrote:
some novel ideas for supports:
- support that is actually a tanky dps. Has three skills that make him immovable in lane and are basically useless in teamfights, his ult lets him 'clone' your carry, the clone runs around automatically so as to require no skill.
- support that does nothing but sustain, just heal heal heal with a little crappy utility thrown in. And a huge armor buff. Should make everybody except the most bursty ad heroes useless in lane.
- Support where you just slap your face on the keyboard and all your spells auto-target. Except the ult, that should be like a huge cone stun or something. Huggggge cone.
- Teemo. Actually he is not a support, but for some reason I just noticed he's tagged as one so they could just remake him with a different model and theme and bill him as the new support.
Moi detects sarcastic post describing yorickroll, sololka, and mikufirstpickinstalocksona. And teemo.
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On January 25 2012 14:55 Eishi_Ki wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 14:08 pschiu wrote:On January 25 2012 12:55 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On January 25 2012 12:48 NotSorry wrote:
techies would be fun loved bombing up jungle paths and watching people explode He'd get nerfed eve style for being a pub stomper though. On January 25 2012 12:02 Shikyo wrote:
Another idea I got would be a large burst heal (let's say 600 hp at lvl 5) that then deals, say, 400 damage to you in a 10 second DoT. That way you can't use it to mass sustain but can use it for burst survival. Why not just make it a heal that gives you 200 hp? If they deal 205 damage to you won't you just die in 10 seconds? I guess regen might take care of the 5 extra health, but if it's much more than that you'd still end up dying which just makes it stupid. It's like Yorick ultimate in a heal, except you're just doomed for death instead of coming back alive Get imba heal, win the gank / skirmish / teamfight, lifesteal back enough health in peace or recall back to base (works even better in Dominion with fast recall). DoT and recall?
Oh right. Better cleanse it then. 
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Teemo support is actually hella annoying. No heal/buff, but throw some flat ap on him max toxic shot and just laugh at the enemy as they try to last hit with poison in their face. Oh look, they try to engage? Blind them.
And dont even get me started about the brush/gank control at level 6.
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On January 25 2012 15:07 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2012 15:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Make an entirely skill-shot based support. Skill-shot snare or stun or slow, skill-shot heal or buff, skill-shot shield, etc.
Could do something cool like make some of them able to hit AOE, but be stronger/last longer if you only hit one target (Similar to Karthus Q), or being able to interchange them (through passive or ultimate?) from being able to only hit one target to passing through multiple people, with appropriate buffs and debuffs to their strength. That could create an interesting dynamic of where you want to have a smaller effect on more people, or a larger effect on only one or a few people.
Maybe an ability that throws a circle on the ground and heals you if you stand inside it, potentially with some kind of second activation effect, sort of like Lux's E?
Ideas! That sounds like Lux right there, but I definitely would like to see a skillshot heal, that could really be interesting.
I know it kind've sounds like Lux, I really enjoy playing her, haha. That's why I was trying to think of things that would be different. Make it more support-centric, and less damage-centric. I actually like playing Janna the most out of supports, because you have to aim and plan two of her abilities.
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We need more ranged junglers. kayle and twitch are sick, but one built entirely for the jungler role would be nice too.
Fudgin udyr always just tanks my ryze shots, so I have to wait for turtle to go on cooldown to hit him, but even then it seems like he has it up instantly. So I have to blow two spells just to break a shield. I think AD could hurt him more, if he didn't just go bear and run a bit.
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Skillshot heal? Sounds like Karma. Though I suppose you could argue landing a spell that's a cone directly in front of you isn't much of a skillshot... cept your teammates never freaking stand still when you're trying to land it so you hit like 1 of 4.
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I'd like to see like a ground slam ability that heals nearby allies but also damages nearby enemies. Not sure if they can code both healing and damaging effects on a single ability.
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On January 25 2012 15:17 beefhamburger wrote:
I'd like to see like a ground slam ability that heals nearby allies but also damages nearby enemies. Not sure if they can code both healing and damaging effects on a single ability.
(everyone forgets) karma.
Dyrus is jungling MF at the moment btw. <3
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On January 25 2012 15:17 beefhamburger wrote:
I'd like to see like a ground slam ability that heals nearby allies but also damages nearby enemies. Not sure if they can code both healing and damaging effects on a single ability.
Nobody's played karma before, have they...
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who would want to? She's does nothing particularly fun, until you get a bunch of ap, and then all the pleasure comes from being powerful.
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