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TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 06:42:14
December 13 2011 06:41 GMT
#81
On December 13 2011 15:20 Skithiryx wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing Kassadin, seriously he's extremely easy to counterpick and hasn't even had that great a showing at recent tournaments, I wish they'd leave him alone...



enligthen a 2200 player whats your vision of how to counter kassadin in solo q. And please dont bother listing match ups mid.

The veigar changes are great , he is really a hidden gem
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Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
December 13 2011 06:42 GMT
#82
You still collide with minions when using ghost+powerball. I used to run ghost back before the nerfs to powerball speed because I didn't know how to use flash correctly.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 13 2011 06:46 GMT
#83
On December 13 2011 15:41 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:20 Skithiryx wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing Kassadin, seriously he's extremely easy to counterpick and hasn't even had that great a showing at recent tournaments, I wish they'd leave him alone...



enligthen a 2200 player whats your vision of how to counter kassadin in solo q. And please dont bother listing match ups mid.

The veigar changes are great , he is really a hidden gem

Throw an AD champ/bruiser at him?
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
December 13 2011 06:51 GMT
#84
am i wrong in thinking that removing dodge from udyr's passive means he will be taking ~8% more damage from auto attacks and that this is a fairly huge nerf compared to what you usually see in patch notes barring an obviously overtuned new champ like graves?
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
December 13 2011 06:52 GMT
#85
On December 13 2011 15:46 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:41 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:20 Skithiryx wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing Kassadin, seriously he's extremely easy to counterpick and hasn't even had that great a showing at recent tournaments, I wish they'd leave him alone...



enligthen a 2200 player whats your vision of how to counter kassadin in solo q. And please dont bother listing match ups mid.

The veigar changes are great , he is really a hidden gem

Throw an AD champ/bruiser at him?


You do realize kassadin's job is to assassinate the range carry in before the teamfight / during it right? And u suggest to counter him with either the characters he is supposed to counter , or to remove your bruise from the front of the battle leaving your squishes exposed for the slight possibility of him being able to save his ranged carry.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 13 2011 06:56 GMT
#86
gp hard counters kass
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
December 13 2011 06:59 GMT
#87
On December 13 2011 13:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
VEIGARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

START BOOTS WITHOUT NEEDING MANA REGEN RUNES NOW MWAHAHAHAHA


Make a video of you dying at lvl 1 please. Also include some funny commentary!
FADC
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
December 13 2011 07:00 GMT
#88
On December 13 2011 15:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
gp hard counters kass


And please dont bother listing match ups mid.


And yes gp is kassadin's hardest match up middle. The fact that u list match up mid as counters to kassadin means u have no clue at all about him / his role or how to play him.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 13 2011 07:01 GMT
#89
On December 13 2011 15:52 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:46 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:41 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:20 Skithiryx wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing Kassadin, seriously he's extremely easy to counterpick and hasn't even had that great a showing at recent tournaments, I wish they'd leave him alone...



enligthen a 2200 player whats your vision of how to counter kassadin in solo q. And please dont bother listing match ups mid.

The veigar changes are great , he is really a hidden gem

Throw an AD champ/bruiser at him?


You do realize kassadin's job is to assassinate the range carry in before the teamfight / during it right? And u suggest to counter him with either the characters he is supposed to counter , or to remove your bruise from the front of the battle leaving your squishes exposed for the slight possibility of him being able to save his ranged carry.


He's saying to put your AD carry or a bruiser to lane against Kassadin. If Kassadin gets shut down in lane then he won't be a threat late game.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 13 2011 07:01 GMT
#90
On December 13 2011 15:52 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:46 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:41 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:20 Skithiryx wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing Kassadin, seriously he's extremely easy to counterpick and hasn't even had that great a showing at recent tournaments, I wish they'd leave him alone...



enligthen a 2200 player whats your vision of how to counter kassadin in solo q. And please dont bother listing match ups mid.

The veigar changes are great , he is really a hidden gem

Throw an AD champ/bruiser at him?


You do realize kassadin's job is to assassinate the range carry in before the teamfight / during it right? And u suggest to counter him with either the characters he is supposed to counter , or to remove your bruise from the front of the battle leaving your squishes exposed for the slight possibility of him being able to save his ranged carry.

If you are really 2200, you would know that

a) The way to shut down kassadin is to break him early game so that he is useless for the whole game.
b) The best way to accomplish (a) is to throw a tank or ranged carry at him in lane.

I like how you say not to bother listing matchups when that is, uuh. HOW YOU SHUT HIM DOWN. Thats like saying "how do I counter mundo ult without ignite?"
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
December 13 2011 07:02 GMT
#91
They nerfed my bear. I am sad.
FADC
whatwhatanut
Profile Joined December 2010
United States195 Posts
December 13 2011 07:08 GMT
#92
On December 13 2011 13:18 obesechicken13 wrote:
I don't like veigar. No one champ should have all that power.


At last the true master of evil, will be....the true master of evil!
(Stop laughing)
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 07:12:07
December 13 2011 07:09 GMT
#93
On December 13 2011 15:41 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:20 Skithiryx wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing Kassadin, seriously he's extremely easy to counterpick and hasn't even had that great a showing at recent tournaments, I wish they'd leave him alone...



enligthen a 2200 player whats your vision of how to counter kassadin in solo q. And please dont bother listing match ups mid.

The veigar changes are great , he is really a hidden gem



On December 13 2011 13:25 Ferrose wrote:
Sent your ranged AD to mid, and mage to bot. Switch lanes as necessary.

Congrats, you have now countered Kassadin.


The only variable is if your teammates are smart enough to listen to you when you tell the ranged AD to go mid, but if you really are 2200, I don't think that should be a problem.

Also that Ionic Spark item. Please don't let that on Summoner's Rift. Imagine how much more insane Skarner, Shyvana, and Udyr's clear times would be. Lol. Plus they'd get more health.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 13 2011 07:11 GMT
#94
New tabi idea is pretty disappointing. Hope they think of something better.
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
December 13 2011 07:14 GMT
#95
On December 13 2011 16:01 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:52 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:46 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:41 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:20 Skithiryx wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing Kassadin, seriously he's extremely easy to counterpick and hasn't even had that great a showing at recent tournaments, I wish they'd leave him alone...



enligthen a 2200 player whats your vision of how to counter kassadin in solo q. And please dont bother listing match ups mid.

The veigar changes are great , he is really a hidden gem

Throw an AD champ/bruiser at him?


You do realize kassadin's job is to assassinate the range carry in before the teamfight / during it right? And u suggest to counter him with either the characters he is supposed to counter , or to remove your bruise from the front of the battle leaving your squishes exposed for the slight possibility of him being able to save his ranged carry.

If you are really 2200, you would know that

a) The way to shut down kassadin is to break him early game so that he is useless for the whole game.
b) The best way to accomplish (a) is to throw a tank or ranged carry at him in lane.

I like how you say not to bother listing matchups when that is, uuh. HOW YOU SHUT HIM DOWN. Thats like saying "how do I counter mundo ult without ignite?"


First of all if you put an ad carry mid he is gonna be free kill for kassadin and his jungler after level 6 every single time. Not to mention before that. Not to mention that you will have only ad damage , and if u put an ap carry top he is gonna be useless (( and since you dont seem very good at league of legends I will explain you why. ) Mid lane is safer for ap carries , gives them easier access to blue and ganks. Not to mention that top laners stack 120 mr till level 7-9 and u will do zero damage , forced to farm at tower , leaving you with low mana unable to push , unable to kill , losing cs and more easily tower diveable. Which also means that if u put an ad middle and ap top , your jungler is gonna be your bruiser which means he will be a lot less durable than the opposing bruiser since he is gonna be top and have a vast access to farm.

Also any decent kassadin player will just famr at tower with tears/cata/philo 2 of the 3 combo. Yes he will always have less farm than lets say sion or brand or most other mid ap's but he outshines them greatly during the mid game and team fights if a decent player. It doesnt fucking matter who you lane against as long as u dont lose by more than 30-40 cs since your job is to make the enemy ranged ad unable to fight the team battle by smart positioning and q/e combo before the battle leaving him an easy pick up target. Why do i even bother to explain you.

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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 13 2011 07:17 GMT
#96
On December 13 2011 16:01 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:52 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:46 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:41 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:20 Skithiryx wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing Kassadin, seriously he's extremely easy to counterpick and hasn't even had that great a showing at recent tournaments, I wish they'd leave him alone...



enligthen a 2200 player whats your vision of how to counter kassadin in solo q. And please dont bother listing match ups mid.

The veigar changes are great , he is really a hidden gem

Throw an AD champ/bruiser at him?


You do realize kassadin's job is to assassinate the range carry in before the teamfight / during it right? And u suggest to counter him with either the characters he is supposed to counter , or to remove your bruise from the front of the battle leaving your squishes exposed for the slight possibility of him being able to save his ranged carry.

If you are really 2200, you would know that

a) The way to shut down kassadin is to break him early game so that he is useless for the whole game.
b) The best way to accomplish (a) is to throw a tank or ranged carry at him in lane.

I like how you say not to bother listing matchups when that is, uuh. HOW YOU SHUT HIM DOWN. Thats like saying "how do I counter mundo ult without ignite?"


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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 13 2011 07:17 GMT
#97
So you're basically telling us that the numerous examples of a team putting talon or cait mid, shitting all over kassadin, and later winning the game is all just flukey baloney.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 13 2011 07:18 GMT
#98
On December 13 2011 16:14 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 16:01 Two_DoWn wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:52 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:46 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:41 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:20 Skithiryx wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing Kassadin, seriously he's extremely easy to counterpick and hasn't even had that great a showing at recent tournaments, I wish they'd leave him alone...



enligthen a 2200 player whats your vision of how to counter kassadin in solo q. And please dont bother listing match ups mid.

The veigar changes are great , he is really a hidden gem

Throw an AD champ/bruiser at him?


You do realize kassadin's job is to assassinate the range carry in before the teamfight / during it right? And u suggest to counter him with either the characters he is supposed to counter , or to remove your bruise from the front of the battle leaving your squishes exposed for the slight possibility of him being able to save his ranged carry.

If you are really 2200, you would know that

a) The way to shut down kassadin is to break him early game so that he is useless for the whole game.
b) The best way to accomplish (a) is to throw a tank or ranged carry at him in lane.

I like how you say not to bother listing matchups when that is, uuh. HOW YOU SHUT HIM DOWN. Thats like saying "how do I counter mundo ult without ignite?"


First of all if you put an ad carry mid he is gonna be free kill for kassadin and his jungler after level 6 every single time. Not to mention before that. Not to mention that you will have only ad damage , and if u put an ap carry top he is gonna be useless (( and since you dont seem very good at league of legends I will explain you why. ) Mid lane is safer for ap carries , gives them easier access to blue and ganks. Not to mention that top laners stack 120 mr till level 7-9 and u will do zero damage , forced to farm at tower , leaving you with low mana unable to push , unable to kill , losing cs and more easily tower diveable. Which also means that if u put an ad middle and ap top , your jungler is gonna be your bruiser which means he will be a lot less durable than the opposing bruiser since he is gonna be top and have a vast access to farm.

Also any decent kassadin player will just famr at tower with tears/cata/philo 2 of the 3 combo. Yes he will always have less farm than lets say sion or brand or most other mid ap's but he outshines them greatly during the mid game and team fights if a decent player. It doesnt fucking matter who you lane against as long as u dont lose by more than 30-40 cs since your job is to make the enemy ranged ad unable to fight the team battle by smart positioning and q/e combo before the battle leaving him an easy pick up target. Why do i even bother to explain you.

Shit. I REALLY need to learn to pick out trolls better. Must be a Guitar alt.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
December 13 2011 07:22 GMT
#99
On December 13 2011 15:59 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 13:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
VEIGARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

START BOOTS WITHOUT NEEDING MANA REGEN RUNES NOW MWAHAHAHAHA


Make a video of you dying at lvl 1 please. Also include some funny commentary!




cause every1 loves the sheep
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 07:25:35
December 13 2011 07:24 GMT
#100
On December 13 2011 16:14 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 16:01 Two_DoWn wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:52 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:46 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:41 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:20 Skithiryx wrote:
Why do they keep nerfing Kassadin, seriously he's extremely easy to counterpick and hasn't even had that great a showing at recent tournaments, I wish they'd leave him alone...



enligthen a 2200 player whats your vision of how to counter kassadin in solo q. And please dont bother listing match ups mid.

The veigar changes are great , he is really a hidden gem

Throw an AD champ/bruiser at him?


You do realize kassadin's job is to assassinate the range carry in before the teamfight / during it right? And u suggest to counter him with either the characters he is supposed to counter , or to remove your bruise from the front of the battle leaving your squishes exposed for the slight possibility of him being able to save his ranged carry.

If you are really 2200, you would know that

a) The way to shut down kassadin is to break him early game so that he is useless for the whole game.
b) The best way to accomplish (a) is to throw a tank or ranged carry at him in lane.

I like how you say not to bother listing matchups when that is, uuh. HOW YOU SHUT HIM DOWN. Thats like saying "how do I counter mundo ult without ignite?"


First of all if you put an ad carry mid he is gonna be free kill for kassadin and his jungler after level 6 every single time. Not to mention before that. Not to mention that you will have only ad damage , and if u put an ap carry top he is gonna be useless (( and since you dont seem very good at league of legends I will explain you why. ) Mid lane is safer for ap carries , gives them easier access to blue and ganks. Not to mention that top laners stack 120 mr till level 7-9 and u will do zero damage , forced to farm at tower , leaving you with low mana unable to push , unable to kill , losing cs and more easily tower diveable. Which also means that if u put an ad middle and ap top , your jungler is gonna be your bruiser which means he will be a lot less durable than the opposing bruiser since he is gonna be top and have a vast access to farm.

Also any decent kassadin player will just famr at tower with tears/cata/philo 2 of the 3 combo. Yes he will always have less farm than lets say sion or brand or most other mid ap's but he outshines them greatly during the mid game and team fights if a decent player. It doesnt fucking matter who you lane against as long as u dont lose by more than 30-40 cs since your job is to make the enemy ranged ad unable to fight the team battle by smart positioning and q/e combo before the battle leaving him an easy pick up target. Why do i even bother to explain you.


Low elo detected.

That's why you put the mage at BOT LANE like I said. And give them Soraka so they have infinite mana for farm/harass.
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