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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 07:26:35
December 13 2011 07:24 GMT
#101
2200 in europe is like 1200 so i dont think hes trolling

there's also only 6 EU players above 2200, so prob just dumb.

User was warned for this post
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 13 2011 07:26 GMT
#102
On December 13 2011 16:24 Brees wrote:
2200 in europe is like 1200 so i dont think hes trolling

Another good point. I was wondering why GMan bob was suddenly 2k after being 1500 all season 1. Dude went back to the JV server.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 13 2011 07:28 GMT
#103
On December 13 2011 16:26 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 16:24 Brees wrote:
2200 in europe is like 1200 so i dont think hes trolling

Another good point. I was wondering why GMan bob was suddenly 2k after being 1500 all season 1. Dude went back to the JV server.

bob went between 1600-1800 last season on both EU and NA. A lot more of his time was spent at 1600 though.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 13 2011 07:35 GMT
#104
Hey guys, I'm about 2400 ELO on US and I think Cassiopeia is the best solo laner in the game. She never loses to any champ and can always do her job no matter how bad she loses lane (even though she never loses 'cause she's the best). Please tell me how to counter and don't say "just lane two people against her in mid" because it doesn't work. I know, I've seen her 1v2 before.

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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 07:43:09
December 13 2011 07:36 GMT
#105
kass obviously can't be countered. Better evelyn him up. Obviously insulting a group of people based on nothing other than predjudice is a way TL members should act, right??

Anyway, did bob actually play ranked on EU last season? The only time i ever saw him playing on EU was during patches many many months ago when patches could take a whole day to be set up and he was still leveling his account. :s

Edit: i would like to counter overt's post with this statement:
Mundo goes where he pleases. (honestly i miss seeing mundo played more )

That is all.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 07:39:30
December 13 2011 07:37 GMT
#106
On December 13 2011 16:24 Brees wrote:
2200 in europe is like 1200 so i dont think hes trolling

there's also only 6 EU players above 2200, so prob just dumb.


Also there is season 1 , cba to argue with low elo biased americans , you win kassadin is too weak lets buff him.

Also to the guy that said soraka + ap btm , thats how u do double ap not putting the ranged ad mid. Zero clue detected.

edit: Thought the tl lol froum would be better than the general lol but holy shit
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 13 2011 07:38 GMT
#107
Stop trolling the threads. I've warned TheBJ for the inane idea that Kass counters AD champions during laning phase.

It would be easier if someone just reported the guy for blatant incorrectness rather than being dicks.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 13 2011 07:39 GMT
#108
wat
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
December 13 2011 07:40 GMT
#109
On December 13 2011 16:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
Stop trolling the threads. I've warned TheBJ for the inane idea that Kass counters AD champions during laning phase.

It would be easier if someone just reported the guy for blatant incorrectness rather than being dicks.


Please quote me where i said kassadin counters ad carries mid in laning phase.
Ad augusta per angust
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 13 2011 07:44 GMT
#110
On December 13 2011 16:40 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 16:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
Stop trolling the threads. I've warned TheBJ for the inane idea that Kass counters AD champions during laning phase.

It would be easier if someone just reported the guy for blatant incorrectness rather than being dicks.


Please quote me where i said kassadin counters ad carries mid in laning phase.

Well, the part that got me (among the MANY incorrect points in your post) was that a Kass would somehow be fine 30-40 cs behind an ad carry. Because, ya know, its REAL easy for kassadin to do his job with boots 1 and a cata.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 13 2011 07:46 GMT
#111
On December 13 2011 16:40 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 16:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
Stop trolling the threads. I've warned TheBJ for the inane idea that Kass counters AD champions during laning phase.

It would be easier if someone just reported the guy for blatant incorrectness rather than being dicks.


Please quote me where i said kassadin counters ad carries mid in laning phase.


First of all if you put an ad carry mid he is gonna be free kill for kassadin and his jungler after level 6 every single time. Not to mention before that.
bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
December 13 2011 07:47 GMT
#112
On December 12 2011 15:22 TheBJ wrote:

And trust me even at high rating its full of retards (what's eve worse is that they think cuze they are highier rated than 99.9%of the LoL population they arent complete retards or act like a one.

2035
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
December 13 2011 07:48 GMT
#113
On December 13 2011 16:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 16:40 TheBJ wrote:
On December 13 2011 16:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
Stop trolling the threads. I've warned TheBJ for the inane idea that Kass counters AD champions during laning phase.

It would be easier if someone just reported the guy for blatant incorrectness rather than being dicks.


Please quote me where i said kassadin counters ad carries mid in laning phase.

Well, the part that got me (among the MANY incorrect points in your post) was that a Kass would somehow be fine 30-40 cs behind an ad carry. Because, ya know, its REAL easy for kassadin to do his job with boots 1 and a cata.


Nope i said he will be behind on creeps vs ap carries who outlane him , because no sane person or team will put an ad ranged carry in the middle. Kassadin will farm at tower and the ranged carry will be a free gank most of the time.


Edit: the only thing about countering i said is that kassadin's job is to counter ad carries during / before battles picking them off from behind or leaving them low enough that they are unable to fight. That's his job and he doesnt need better farm in lane to do it , because ranged ad's dont build early defensive items or they dont do enough damage. Talon isnt a carry but an assassin.
Ad augusta per angust
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 07:50:30
December 13 2011 07:48 GMT
#114
On December 12 2011 15:22 TheBJ wrote:

And trust me even at high rating its full of retards (what's eve worse is that they think cuze they are highier rated than 99.9%of the LoL population they arent complete retards or act like a one.


That's actually pretty golden, right there. Might want to remember how many others at your Elo must think the same thing.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 07:53:58
December 13 2011 07:50 GMT
#115
On December 13 2011 16:48 TheBJ wrote:
Nope i said he will be behind on creeps vs ap carries who outlane him , because no sane person or team will put an ad ranged carry in the middle. Kassadin will farm at tower and the ranged carry will be a free gank most of the time.

How are AD ranged carries free ganks when half of them have escapes that basically move them all the way back to tower in a lane as short as mid and Kassadin doesn't have an instant CC to prevent them from jumping away?

Sure Kog/Ashe/MF would be free kills, but why would you pick an AD with no escapes against Kassadin to begin with?
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TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
December 13 2011 07:51 GMT
#116
On December 13 2011 16:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
Stop trolling the threads. I've warned TheBJ for the inane idea that Kass counters AD champions during laning phase.

It would be easier if someone just reported the guy for blatant incorrectness rather than being dicks.


It is pretty wrong to warn me for your failure of reading comprehension , or even if i said what you THOUGHT i said the difference of our opinion.
Ad augusta per angust
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 13 2011 07:51 GMT
#117
What's your summoner name? Would like to check out runes and stuff
hi
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 13 2011 07:53 GMT
#118
On December 13 2011 16:40 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 16:38 NeoIllusions wrote:
Stop trolling the threads. I've warned TheBJ for the inane idea that Kass counters AD champions during laning phase.

It would be easier if someone just reported the guy for blatant incorrectness rather than being dicks.


Please quote me where i said kassadin counters ad carries mid in laning phase.


You asked what counters kass in solo q.
We replied throw an ad carry/bruiser at him. Aka Lane an ad carry/bruiser vs him. Technically a tanky ap like gragas and sion work too but yeah.
You counter that argument saying it's kass's job to kill add carries thus that doesn't counter him. Obviously you mean in teamfights, but we are talking about lanes.

In lane ad's and bruisers shit on kass. He can't cs well vs them due to range or simply b/c they can tank his harass and deal damage back to him. By midgame he will have been heavily denied farm. Midgame is supposed to be where his burst is strongest, but If he can't get the farm he needs then he will be dead wait. Aka coutered.

Simple enough or did all that elo get in the way of your eyes so you couldn't read this text? Don't come waving your elo/ego here. We don't care. We like real discussion and reasons for doing things, not "this is like this cause i said so and i made up my elo to prove it."
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 13 2011 07:54 GMT
#119
Huuuuuuuuuuuuge lux buffs +20 shield @ lvl18 this'll totally make her viable. Great Morde buffs now he can actually lane because he'll actually get a shield somewhere.
Udyr dodge removed, seriously? This patch blows lol, like really. Some shitty buffs for cool champs, some really dumb nerfs and on top of that I'm gonna have to rebuy my dodge runes.
The only thing that could make this patch any better is ahri taking 0 skill and being OP as fuck or being weak as fuck and superhard to play.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
December 13 2011 07:55 GMT
#120
Why do you guys think kass is banned every tournament? If you look at xpeke running hp5 + dshield its entirely possible for kass to go vs ad's. That aside riot balances for pubs...hence fizz nerf
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