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Want to rage about your latest loss? Use the QQ thread. If you whine in GD, you'll get warned. ===== + Show Spoiler + If your [Stream] thread was moved to the general TL Stream subforum (aka SC stream land), find your thread and PM it to me and I'll move it back to LoL territory. I can argue with staff that moving a non-SC thread into a SC subforum is just asking for that thread to get buried. - Neo, Dec. 15 2011, 6:33 KST I have admin approval. I'll be moving LoL streams back to the subforum. Stream name will be based on Summoner name. - Neo 7:07 KST | ||
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Cupine
Canada51 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 13 2011 13:54 Cupine wrote: Yeah, Kassadin is pretty much first ban these days still, I havn't seen him in quite a few games, no idea how effective he is right now, but this nerf really doesn't change much? No nerf on his E or Q, just he needs 1 more second to riftwalk. You kidding me? 1 second is fuckign huge for Kassadin's ulti. CDR was already pretty important for Kass, but now it's mandatory. QQ Kass nerfs. I quit :[ But uni's probably a little happy. They added the ap ratio to Sivir Q back lolololol | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
All q farm no worries. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On December 13 2011 13:43 Dgiese wrote: They release +%hp runes... and then nerf warmogs... so fucking gay. The one thing I would actually care about doing with +%HP runes would be running 5 warmogs 1 atmas... but now my dreams are crushed! That's why they did it though, I bet. Release %HP runes, nerf Warmog's and Volibear's W. Also I wish that they would have released the details on the new runes. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On December 13 2011 13:54 Cupine wrote: Yeah, Kassadin is pretty much first ban these days still, I havn't seen him in quite a few games, no idea how effective he is right now, but this nerf really doesn't change much? No nerf on his E or Q, just he needs 1 more second to riftwalk. To be fair his Q nerf hurts BAD if you've played him recently, but he's still so strong post 6 I still think he was probably OP, definitely OP in soloque. I think this is a good nerf, just force him to play a little smarter. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On December 13 2011 13:58 Jaso wrote: Yeahhh Veigar buffs. All q farm no worries. meh.. made it harder for the laning phase if you're going to do that. Veigar's problem is being so awkward in range in teamfights | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On December 13 2011 14:05 Kenpachi wrote: meh.. made it harder for the laning phase if you're going to do that. Veigar's problem is being so awkward in range in teamfights You dont teamfight with Veigar, you mill around until you catch someone on the very edge of your stun and instagib them and then run away and stay faaar back while your team rolls them 5v4 Or just blitz for their fed Brand then Zhonyas. Basically your entire job is to land your ult on their AP, once you've done that your golden, if you can stun some bitches and then survive thats just icing on the cake. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On December 13 2011 13:47 sob3k wrote: I think he's more farm dependant than level, and he's such a lategame shiner that you are just trying to last long enough to get to his inevitable ownage status, which you do by not feeding early kills to their strong mid. He farms well under tower too. I never feel useless as veigar except very early, pretty much no matter what. I'm just going bot because I literally have no idea what to do if I end up matched up mid against goddamn kassadin or brand or cass. Hell a good annie is a fucking nightmare entirely based on hitting every stun. If its ranked then I guess the advice is to not pick veigar in bad situations, but fuck it I wanna play him and also normals. Not true, Veigar is actually the most powerful relative to the other people at ~level 11 with his DFG. Late game Veigar actually falls off if the opposing team is itemizing correctly. ~level 11 with DFG onto about ~30 minutes is when people have offensive items and very few defensive items, allowing Veigar to one shot pretty much anyone unless they reallys tacked MR and HP, or, with good spell splitting + enemy clumping can bring 2-3 people down to <30 percent health in a team fight. Late game Veigar can only reliably burst AP carry or AD carry, rarely both at once. On December 13 2011 14:12 sob3k wrote: You dont teamfight with Veigar, you mill around until you catch someone on the very edge of your stun and instagib them and then run away and stay faaar back while your team rolls them 5v4 Or just blitz for their fed Brand then Zhonyas. Basically your entire job is to land your ult on their AP, once you've done that your golden, if you can stun some bitches and then survive thats just icing on the cake. That's a terrible way to play Veigar and wastes a lot of his potential ;\ | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On December 13 2011 14:12 sob3k wrote: You dont teamfight with Veigar, you mill around until you catch someone on the very edge of your stun and instagib them and then run away and stay faaar back while your team rolls them 5v4 Or just blitz for their fed Brand then Zhonyas. Basically your entire job is to land your ult on their AP, once you've done that your golden, if you can stun some bitches and then survive thats just icing on the cake. Run away and then win 4v5 after you instagib... pretty sure that is a 4v4 at that point, which is exactly veigar's problem. | ||
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Mephit
United States34 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On December 13 2011 14:13 petered wrote: Run away and then win 4v5 after you instagib... pretty sure that is a 4v4 at that point, which is exactly veigar's problem. No, it's not. In that case he's given, you run back because you need to wait for cooldowns (like ANY mage) and need to get back behind your tank line so you don't get instagibbed yourself since you're so squishy and you're out front at the moment you went in to instagib an enemy. Once your cooldowns are back, you still have one of the most powerful AoE stuns in the entire game, a high damage AoE nuke, and a single target nuke. -_- Veigar's problem is NOT his teamfighting lol. His weakness is his really weak laning. He's really squishy but also very mana hungry, which isn't that great of a combination for a lvl and farm dependent champ. | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
On December 13 2011 14:13 petered wrote: Run away and then win 4v5 after you instagib... pretty sure that is a 4v4 at that point, which is exactly veigar's problem. I honestly don't see how an HUGE AoE stun, a single target nuke that deals tons of damage, and a delayed AoE nuke that also deals tons of damagemakes Veigar a bad teamfight champion. Just sit around for 10 seconds and you can kill someone again. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Stream is live now! : http://www.own3d.tv/live/167795 | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
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koreasilver
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On December 13 2011 14:26 WaveofShadow wrote: For anyone who is interested, I'll be co-casting a game for League of Tournaments (www.lotgaming.com) (9 PST). Gameplay is probably mid-level or so, but it should be fun to watch, plus my co-caster Silverdirge is a girl! OMGZ! Stream is live now! : http://www.own3d.tv/live/167795 those 2 teams arent very experienced is my guess.. | ||
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warscythes
365 Posts
On December 13 2011 14:32 koreasilver wrote: Making Sivir's Q scale with AP is so retarded. It still scale with AD, they didn't say they removed the scaling. | ||
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