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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 14 2011 03:26 GMT
#501
Not entirely sure why you have 2 points in havoc and 2 points in sunder when you can have 3/3 sunder. I assume that's a misclick?
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 14 2011 03:28 GMT
#502
Hmm, patch went through but no new champ yet, because of the wait for the Korean release? That and the new runes aren't in the shop yet, and my dodge runes are still not refunded.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
December 14 2011 03:30 GMT
#503
On December 14 2011 11:42 Schmieds wrote:
SoloQ commentary feat. SYDTKO.

One team includes Doublelift, Phantomlord, and some unknown named Neo!

MAJOR SPOILER
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Neo > Phantomlord




Poll: new name for neo

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neofreelossions (1)
 
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neoscrubllusions (0)
 
0%

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Your vote: new name for neo

(Vote): neoscrubllusions
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Logrus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States228 Posts
December 14 2011 03:33 GMT
#504
sylver -
actually it was intentional, I wanted to show there's obviously some flexibility based on personal preference, like i like sorcery and some people like the crit mastery... although that prolly wasn't clear

silver -
1. yes
2. they are in the shop
3. refunded on 16th
"Down, down into the pile, into the great slag heap, window onto the ends of time and space, where nothing is to be seen at the end, I went, between walls forever afire, never burnt down..." -Merlin, Prince of Chaos
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 03:42:00
December 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#505
On December 14 2011 08:15 Craton wrote:
Triforce is core on Skarner and combined with his W puts me in the high 400s for movespeed. I think I'm 504 with a Janna. Flash/ghost ult is probably the strongest initiate in the game right now. Considering how suffocating Skarner with his permaslow and high damage w/ TF, he can outperform Rammus quite a bit. Skarner just has a more persistent threat.

It's not that Rammus is bad, it's just that Skarner is so strong it's funny everyone wants to ignore him to ban Rammus.


Erhm... calling Triforce "core" on Skarner is a pretty stupid idea.

Yes, it is a good item - however, 4k gold on your first major item as a jungler is just not happening unless you get insanely fat insanely quickly.


My standard build with him atm is philo -> Rageblade -> Defensive crap. Aegis and Randuins shine a lot on him.

My "fuck yes I'll carry this shit"-build is more around Rageblade -> Triforce -> GA.


But, yeah, imo "rushing" Triforce from the jungle is just as bad as rushing Warmogs from the jungle on most champs. It leaves you in this awkward spot where you finish your Triforce after AP/AD carries finish their first big items and leaves you kinda naked against them. - Much rather sit on Aegis+Rageblade than a solo Triforce in that spot.


tl;dr: It's basicly the same deal as Wits End -> Defensive Crap on brodyr.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 14 2011 03:42 GMT
#506
after a couple hundred games with him I've realized skarner doesn't have a core build. His damages are high enough that ou can open glacial shroud + philo + hog and still be a threat offensively. He can carry he can tank he utilizes wriggles but doesn't need it... He's just too good atm
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 14 2011 03:46 GMT
#507
On December 14 2011 12:42 gtrsrs wrote:
after a couple hundred games with him I've realized skarner doesn't have a core build. His damages are high enough that ou can open glacial shroud + philo + hog and still be a threat offensively. He can carry he can tank he utilizes wriggles but doesn't need it... He's just too good atm

Shush! He's still balanced, don't let anyone hear otherwise.
It's your boy Guzma!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 14 2011 03:49 GMT
#508
The new runes aren't up on the euw server yet. Strange. Oh well, I'll just check tomorrow.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 14 2011 03:52 GMT
#509
On December 14 2011 12:46 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 12:42 gtrsrs wrote:
after a couple hundred games with him I've realized skarner doesn't have a core build. His damages are high enough that ou can open glacial shroud + philo + hog and still be a threat offensively. He can carry he can tank he utilizes wriggles but doesn't need it... He's just too good atm

Shush! He's still balanced, don't let anyone hear otherwise.


mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Skarner is becoming less and less appealing to me. Every team he was on lost at MLG providence, went 0-6 or something, and didn't do well at all at WCG either from what I saw.

He's good at killing scrubs and bads, when people are actually paying attention, it's underwhelming
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
December 14 2011 03:53 GMT
#510
On December 14 2011 12:38 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 08:15 Craton wrote:
Triforce is core on Skarner and combined with his W puts me in the high 400s for movespeed. I think I'm 504 with a Janna. Flash/ghost ult is probably the strongest initiate in the game right now. Considering how suffocating Skarner with his permaslow and high damage w/ TF, he can outperform Rammus quite a bit. Skarner just has a more persistent threat.

It's not that Rammus is bad, it's just that Skarner is so strong it's funny everyone wants to ignore him to ban Rammus.


Erhm... calling Triforce "core" on Skarner is a pretty stupid idea.

Yes, it is a good item - however, 4k gold on your first major item as a jungler is just not happening unless you get insanely fat insanely quickly.

iirc skarner has the highest base damage so rushing triforce is actually super strong on him (moreso than other heroes).
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 14 2011 03:54 GMT
#511
A fed skarner on the other team is one of my nightmares. He just comes outta nowhere with that speed boost and then LOLGETOVERHERE drags you kicking and screaming back into certain death.

And if he's fed he's crazy strong and never dies Udyr style. I hate skarner sooooo much omg
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 14 2011 03:56 GMT
#512
Loco's team just getting rolled by TSM. They don't even need to think to crush them.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 14 2011 04:00 GMT
#513
On December 14 2011 12:56 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Loco's team just getting rolled by TSM. They don't even need to think to crush them.

second game sivir with nunu buff is ridiculous. quadra into 11/1 at end of game. real
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 14 2011 04:05 GMT
#514
Can someone explain what the TF auto range vs his spell range is in plain English?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
December 14 2011 04:05 GMT
#515
On December 13 2011 13:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
VEIGARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

START BOOTS WITHOUT NEEDING MANA REGEN RUNES NOW MWAHAHAHAHA


Yah, I like the mana change to Baleful. My favorite AP champ.

Dark matter change is pretty huge. Might use it more early on.


Also, we want PulseFire Ezreal.
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
December 14 2011 04:10 GMT
#516
I'm ready to get back on my Strength of Spirit Urgot.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 04:15:44
December 14 2011 04:13 GMT
#517
On December 14 2011 08:15 Craton wrote:
Triforce is core on Skarner and combined with his W puts me in the high 400s for movespeed. I think I'm 504 with a Janna. Flash/ghost ult is probably the strongest initiate in the game right now. Considering how suffocating Skarner with his permaslow and high damage w/ TF, he can outperform Rammus quite a bit. Skarner just has a more persistent threat.

It's not that Rammus is bad, it's just that Skarner is so strong it's funny everyone wants to ignore him to ban Rammus.


Triforce is definitely NOT core on Skarner. It's a lategame damage item. Rushing Triforce makes you squishy, which is exactly the OPPOSITE of what Skarner is supposed to be. If you want early game damage, get Guinsoo's Rageblade. Then you can use that 2k gold you saved on defensive items, so you can actually do your damn job.
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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
December 14 2011 04:15 GMT
#518
Christmas Runes are up.

Nice to see these discounted versions have the same strength as their regular quintessence counterparts.

(3.33 Arpen, 1.89 Mpen, 1.5% movespeed, 26 hp)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 14 2011 04:16 GMT
#519
On December 14 2011 13:13 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 08:15 Craton wrote:
Triforce is core on Skarner and combined with his W puts me in the high 400s for movespeed. I think I'm 504 with a Janna. Flash/ghost ult is probably the strongest initiate in the game right now. Considering how suffocating Skarner with his permaslow and high damage w/ TF, he can outperform Rammus quite a bit. Skarner just has a more persistent threat.

It's not that Rammus is bad, it's just that Skarner is so strong it's funny everyone wants to ignore him to ban Rammus.


Triforce is definitely NOT core on Skarner. It's a lategame damage item. Rushing Triforce makes you squishy, which is exactly the OPPOSITE of what Skarner is supposed to be. If you want early game damage, get Guinsoo's Rageblade. Then you can use that 2k gold you saved on defensive items.

Sheen proc is almost too good to pass up. Skarner has (tied for) highest base damage in the game, so the proc is better on him than almost anyone. And MS + W and Phage with his Q is insane, no one ever escapes. Rageblade is good DPS if you can have 100% uptime on the target, which isn't always.

Just my $0.02
It's your boy Guzma!
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 04:19:28
December 14 2011 04:17 GMT
#520
What skill do you start with jungling as the Bear?

HURRY IM IN A GAME!


On Skarner I usually rush boots2 and sheen then go phage -> wits end and from here depending on how i am doing/game is going finish Trinity or build Aegis

I dont like rageblade
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