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kepael
Profile Joined July 2011
United States177 Posts
December 14 2011 01:35 GMT
#481
Anyone know why I just got a random 50MB patch. I already patched today.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 14 2011 01:36 GMT
#482
On December 14 2011 10:35 kepael wrote:
Anyone know why I just got a random 50MB patch. I already patched today.

prob something to do with why normals drafts were disabled
Logrus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States228 Posts
December 14 2011 01:39 GMT
#483
On December 14 2011 10:27 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 09:58 Slayer91 wrote:
Guys max rank riven shield is 6 second cd, that's 3.6 with max cdr (masteries/runes/brutalizer/cdr boots but you usually need mercs) which is the same as udyr except with more than 40 AD it shields more and also functions as a 3.6 second flash and we're looking at something like 400+ shielding at level 18 with your ult up.

Not to mention one of the best laning phases midgame and endgames of all the bruisers.
This champion is absurd.

She's got mobility, base damage, scaling, shielding, cc, damage, aoe, like really needs to be toned down a bit.

And it's not like she's even hard to play. It's like playing any other bruiser except you feel like you have tools for every situation instead of having to put yourself into situations that favour you.

I feel like CDR has been underappreciated on riven considering how ridiculous max CDR udyr can be.


Valor doesn't go through anything walls, nor does it have the range of flash. Her base damage isn't high, her passive is what gives her attacks umph. It's why Triforce isn't good on her. A big problem with getting CDR on her is that outside of boots only brutalizer is the only decent choice for her.


and without mercs I feel uncomfortable and bruta is great but ghostblade is not optimal which makes bruta into a glorified dorans (have to sell it later) that also really delays ur bt/ga if u make a wriggles.

which is why I run (8x) flat cdr blues and get the 4% in off tree. idc that cdr blues suck or that cdr is bad or that i'll have no mr till mid/late or gold efficiency etc etc. imo sometimes the opportunity cost of NOT having something you need that's hard to itemize for is the issue.

I worded that like crap. I mean like when people say to use mana regen runes on certain champs in lieu of buying a mana item. Because u dont want to buy the mana item u get some from ur runes/masteries so u can do a normal build at good timings. I think cdr on Riven is the same situation.
"Down, down into the pile, into the great slag heap, window onto the ends of time and space, where nothing is to be seen at the end, I went, between walls forever afire, never burnt down..." -Merlin, Prince of Chaos
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 01:40:02
December 14 2011 01:39 GMT
#484


For those poor souls who have no concept of 9 hot (well 8 + an ugly one) girls dressed up in skimpy outfits singing pop music in a language you cant understand.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
December 14 2011 01:43 GMT
#485
On December 14 2011 10:39 Two_DoWn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_gfD3nvh-8

For those poor souls who have no concept of 9 hot (well 8 + an ugly one) girls dressed up in skimpy outfits singing pop music in a language you cant understand.


which ones considered the ugly one? i wouldnt say no to any of them
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 01:45:18
December 14 2011 01:44 GMT
#486
hyorc'd

edit: also sica is the best followed closely by taengoo
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 14 2011 01:46 GMT
#487
The one at :54 is considered the ugly one.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 01:49:24
December 14 2011 01:48 GMT
#488
On December 14 2011 10:35 kepael wrote:
Anyone know why I just got a random 50MB patch. I already patched today.

How else would I distribute my Trojan?

Probably related to the holiday skins / Ahri release tomorrow.
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Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
December 14 2011 01:50 GMT
#489
On December 14 2011 10:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
The one at :54 is considered the ugly one.

She looks like a man.

Also kpop is garbage.

NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
December 14 2011 01:52 GMT
#490
So who wants to carry me out of elo hell?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Thetan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
240 Posts
December 14 2011 01:54 GMT
#491
On December 14 2011 10:39 Logrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 10:27 Gahlo wrote:
On December 14 2011 09:58 Slayer91 wrote:
Guys max rank riven shield is 6 second cd, that's 3.6 with max cdr (masteries/runes/brutalizer/cdr boots but you usually need mercs) which is the same as udyr except with more than 40 AD it shields more and also functions as a 3.6 second flash and we're looking at something like 400+ shielding at level 18 with your ult up.

Not to mention one of the best laning phases midgame and endgames of all the bruisers.
This champion is absurd.

She's got mobility, base damage, scaling, shielding, cc, damage, aoe, like really needs to be toned down a bit.

And it's not like she's even hard to play. It's like playing any other bruiser except you feel like you have tools for every situation instead of having to put yourself into situations that favour you.

I feel like CDR has been underappreciated on riven considering how ridiculous max CDR udyr can be.


Valor doesn't go through anything walls, nor does it have the range of flash. Her base damage isn't high, her passive is what gives her attacks umph. It's why Triforce isn't good on her. A big problem with getting CDR on her is that outside of boots only brutalizer is the only decent choice for her.


and without mercs I feel uncomfortable and bruta is great but ghostblade is not optimal which makes bruta into a glorified dorans (have to sell it later) that also really delays ur bt/ga if u make a wriggles.

which is why I run (8x) flat cdr blues and get the 4% in off tree. idc that cdr blues suck or that cdr is bad or that i'll have no mr till mid/late or gold efficiency etc etc. imo sometimes the opportunity cost of NOT having something you need that's hard to itemize for is the issue.

I worded that like crap. I mean like when people say to use mana regen runes on certain champs in lieu of buying a mana item. Because u dont want to buy the mana item u get some from ur runes/masteries so u can do a normal build at good timings. I think cdr on Riven is the same situation.


I don't play Riven, but would 15/15/0 work if you wanted CDR? It gives you 12.1% CDR @ lvl 18, and you're not really wasting points into anything worthless getting there either. Pop a blue pot late game, and that's a real good chunk of CDR.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 14 2011 02:26 GMT
#492
there are too many situational sources of CDR (soul shroud, blue pot, blue buff) that are obtainable with cooperating teammates that I don't put heavy emphasis upon it
this is prob more related to arranged play tho
in terms of itemization though, the only item that wouldn't feel like it would delay your real damage too much is brutalizer.
Hey! Listen!
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 02:28:13
December 14 2011 02:27 GMT
#493
Is jungle Riven still viable after the jungle changes? If so, what route/skill order/general mastery layout seems to work best?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 14 2011 02:38 GMT
#494
Must spend IP. Get Leesingah or GP?
It's your boy Guzma!
Schmieds
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States312 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 02:52:49
December 14 2011 02:42 GMT
#495
SoloQ commentary feat. SYDTKO.

One team includes Doublelift, Phantomlord, and some unknown named Neo!

MAJOR SPOILER
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Neo > Phantomlord


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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
December 14 2011 03:01 GMT
#496
Normal draft pick is back
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
December 14 2011 03:05 GMT
#497
On December 14 2011 11:38 Requizen wrote:
Must spend IP. Get Leesingah or GP?

The IP has been distributed? I hadn't heard that anyone got theirs yet....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 14 2011 03:07 GMT
#498
On December 14 2011 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 11:38 Requizen wrote:
Must spend IP. Get Leesingah or GP?

The IP has been distributed? I hadn't heard that anyone got theirs yet....

No, I just have some.
It's your boy Guzma!
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
December 14 2011 03:10 GMT
#499
the ip refund starts on the 16th afaik
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Logrus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 03:17:58
December 14 2011 03:14 GMT
#500
for Riven there's no reason to go 15/15 when u can 21/9/0 take sorcery and get executioner which is sooooooo gooood, especially with her ult
somethin like http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-3-0-0-4-4-0-0-1-0-2-0-3-0-2-0-1-0-1-3-0-4-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

for jungling I've recently used http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-3-0-1-4-4-0-0-1-0-2-0-3-0-2-0-1-1-0-3-2-0-2-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

runes/masteries for me are the same
flat ad reds+quints+1x blue, armor yellow, flat cdr blue x8

I'd still reccomend Doran start and level 2 gank but if you start red you need a good pull to not take too much dmg. Or you can start mini gols.

If you don't want to gank level 2 and just want to farm I'm pretty sure you can easily cloth 5 or vamp scepter and start blue -> minis and B before red
"Down, down into the pile, into the great slag heap, window onto the ends of time and space, where nothing is to be seen at the end, I went, between walls forever afire, never burnt down..." -Merlin, Prince of Chaos
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