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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 06:43:44
December 27 2011 06:39 GMT
#3681
On December 27 2011 15:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 15:35 Ryalnos wrote:
On December 27 2011 15:34 deskscaress wrote:
vayne *will be* the most powerful carry by a large margin next patch imo. i think the lack of dodge next patch will help all AD carries, but vayne especially, as it is currently the only viable counter to her massive damage output on a lot of champs

also i dunno what you guys are on about best lanes without mentioning urgot soraka
hello infinite Q spam and unkillability


How much info do we have on the next patch? Do we have more to go on than Viktor being added and dodge being removed?

We also have some PBE stuff that gives us a hint of what may come.


Mind filling this in? I've seen several posts about Ninja Tabi, Vlad ap nerfs, shen buffs. Is there much more than that, say new Jax mechanics to replace dodge?

Edit: nvm, for some reason I didn't realize that PBE changes were just listed in the regular forums, my bad.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 06:42:53
December 27 2011 06:41 GMT
#3682
On December 27 2011 15:39 Ryalnos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 15:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 27 2011 15:35 Ryalnos wrote:
On December 27 2011 15:34 deskscaress wrote:
vayne *will be* the most powerful carry by a large margin next patch imo. i think the lack of dodge next patch will help all AD carries, but vayne especially, as it is currently the only viable counter to her massive damage output on a lot of champs

also i dunno what you guys are on about best lanes without mentioning urgot soraka
hello infinite Q spam and unkillability


How much info do we have on the next patch? Do we have more to go on than Viktor being added and dodge being removed?

We also have some PBE stuff that gives us a hint of what may come.


Mind filling this in? I've seen several posts about Ninja Tabi, Vlad ap nerfs, shen buffs. Is there much more than that, say new Jax mechanics to replace dodge?

Nope. Everything you've seen posted on TL is pretty much all we have to go by until the patch preview comes out. I'm honestly really curious what they're gonna do with Jax. I'll be pretty annoyed if they just remove dodge and leave Jax in the dust while they work it out similar to what they did with Panth after the ult nerf.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
December 27 2011 07:00 GMT
#3683
> 20k queue at 2am EST? wut wut
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 07:10:28
December 27 2011 07:03 GMT
#3684
Who is Chu8 anyways. I heard he was a Hon player? Haven't watched much but he seems good from what little I have seen and he spams actions and changes views like an SC player.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
December 27 2011 07:05 GMT
#3685
On December 27 2011 16:00 KillerSOS wrote:
> 20k queue at 2am EST? wut wut

server crash
twitch.tv/cratonz
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
December 27 2011 07:09 GMT
#3686
What would you guys recommend as a good build for irelia? I checked the irelia thread but the last post is really old. Any changes from whats recommended in that thread?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 27 2011 07:19 GMT
#3687
i see chat is borked, lovely
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 07:21:12
December 27 2011 07:20 GMT
#3688
On December 27 2011 16:09 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
What would you guys recommend as a good build for irelia? I checked the irelia thread but the last post is really old. Any changes from whats recommended in that thread?

I haven't played too much Irelia, but I've had some pubstomp success with her.

I got 21/9/0 with her. 21/0/9 is just as viable as well.
For runes,
armorpen reds
flat armor yellows
mr/lvl blues
flat health quints.

Flash/ignite

open either boots 3 pot
or health regen 1 pot.

philostone->boots->sheen->finish boots (usually merc, depends though)->phage->finish triforce->atmogs->w.e tanky ass item you want.


Also if you aren't laning well, you can get heart-o-gold after philostone, just for more gold per10.
liftlift > tsm
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 07:32:16
December 27 2011 07:27 GMT
#3689
i run irelia 0/21/9 straight down the mres tree with 3 armor/3hp5

runes
arpen red
flat armor yellow
flat mr blue
hp5 or mspeed quints

ghost/tele

open cloth5/reg1/null2/boots3 depending on my item build, lane opponent, and their team comp

reg build is usually philo -> boots -> phage -> boots2 -> tri then situational build

sometimes i go wrigs/wit's -> phage -> tri -> atmog's

other times i go philo -> boots -> wit's -> phage/mallet -> atma's

point is that irelia has a lot of flexibility with her item builds.
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
December 27 2011 07:27 GMT
#3690
On December 27 2011 16:03 BlackMagister wrote:
Who is Chu8 anyways. I heard he was a Hon player? Haven't watched much but he seems good from what little I have seen and he spams actions and changes views like an SC player.


Chu8 hit rank 1 last season to prove a point. Hon >>>>>> League

He played under-rated characters like Maokai and Karma, and did them justice by being ridiculously good at them.

His Moakai was really famous for a while, he ran AP maokai with Trinity Force.
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
Lancer723
Profile Joined September 2011
United States486 Posts
December 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#3691
Adding to the AD carry discussion:

It's difficult to talk about "balance" when referencing AD/Support bottoms, because the relative strength of each combo is dependent on so many factors. You have to think about everything the AD brings to the table and also consider what the support brings and the interactions between the two's abilities. You also have to consider the opposing combination, so you have to factor in the selection of 4 champions.

Right now there are a few AD carries that excel regardless of the support (Vayne, Graves, Caitlyn) and a few that work well depending on the support pick (Corki, Ezreal, Tristana, Kog'Maw, Sivir). Conversely, there are two supports that seem to excel no matter what the AD (Soraka, Sona) and a few that rely on matchups (Alistar, Taric, Janna, Leona, Nunu, Blitzcrank).

You also have to take into account the relative skills of both the AD and support on both sides, as well how well they can work together.

Basically I guess I'm trying to say that Vayne, Graves, and Cait are (in general) the class of the AD Carries, and Soraka/Sona are the class of the Supports....ehhh, it's all so dependent on matchups and other stuff I feel bad even generalizing like this, Ezreal/ Corki/ Trist are so good in the right hands too, and Alistar is my most played character so I know for a fact when you get the right matchup you can faceroll but idk.

Not sure if I'm gonna leave this up, but yeah those are my thoughts.
LoL ID - Lancer723 Gold III
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 27 2011 07:59 GMT
#3692
oh good, they finally changed Ahri's title from "The 9 Tails Fox" to "The Nine-Tailed Fox". shit drove me nuts
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 08:08:29
December 27 2011 08:06 GMT
#3693
On December 27 2011 16:59 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oh good, they finally changed Ahri's title from "The 9 Tails Fox" to "The Nine-Tailed Fox". shit drove me nuts


Yeah, I had the OP set up to read "The Nine-Tailed Fox" before I saw what they called her at release. Changing that back for sure...

Edit: rofl, just realized why her passive has nine charges -.-
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
December 27 2011 08:14 GMT
#3694
I've never been excited for a new champion like I am for Viktor.

Hope they release him Wednesday, since they probably won't release him today. =\
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 08:51:26
December 27 2011 08:48 GMT
#3695
Haven't logged into LoL in months due to computer problems. Did everyone else get their 450 good behavior rp? I logged in and don't have RP, but pretty sure I haven't been banned. Also suggestions for spending 450 RP? I'm thinking of an IP boost or a for sale skin... Not much else you can buy really.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 08:55:05
December 27 2011 08:54 GMT
#3696
just won the most epic ass 4v5 in ranked to gain 8 ELO

we didn't have a top laner and jungler refused to go, so did bot lane. But everytime we went for dragon, I would get doubles with cassiopeia. Also, our ashe literally landed every single fucking arrow she shot. Like I got 2 kills for free because a random arrow hit the enemy brand in mid twice.

Anyways, Ashe + Amumu + Cassiopeia = win at initiation if their AD carry is out of position.

EDIT: point of this post FUUUUUUU loss forgiven. They deserve to lose ELO for losing 5v4!
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
December 27 2011 09:09 GMT
#3697
I've had half a dozen games in the last few weeks won or lost because of server instability without a single instance of loss forgiven.
twitch.tv/cratonz
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 27 2011 09:11 GMT
#3698
On December 27 2011 18:09 Craton wrote:
I've had half a dozen games in the last few weeks won or lost because of server instability without a single instance of loss forgiven.


they should really enforce it more often, or never enforce it at all :/
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 09:59:24
December 27 2011 09:43 GMT
#3699
Never gotten a loss forgiven, plenty of times when servers went shit, mass dcs, 3v5, 3v4 w/e, not a single loss forgiven.
Riot really needs to tell people that the jungler isn't their bitch, plenty of games where the jungler gets flamed and blamed for everything.
Jungler got his jungle invaded @ lvl1 and is set back way behind? OMG GANK NOOB WE LOST BOT CUZ U NEVER GANK, shit like that. Makes a lot of people not want to jungle, same for the support but haven't seen support get blamed that much.
Maybe the reward program will improve the general attitude.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 27 2011 10:13 GMT
#3700
I find that I get Loss Forgiven at the most random times, I've never seen someone complain about lag ingame when it's active (which people usually do the second they die..), no d/c's, nuffin'. I just take the 'free' losses, but it's kinda stupid.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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