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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
December 26 2011 03:22 GMT
#3541
ya taric is pretty bad. just a stun/aurabot in teamfights and both have kinda long cd.
GANDHISAUCE
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 26 2011 03:26 GMT
#3542
i like him, has damage heal stun buff debuff
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
December 26 2011 03:27 GMT
#3543
On December 26 2011 12:06 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 12:03 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 26 2011 12:01 OutlaW- wrote:
On December 26 2011 10:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 26 2011 10:17 barbsq wrote:
On December 26 2011 09:55 r.Evo wrote:
On December 26 2011 08:55 Nero. wrote:
i just recently started watching TheOddOne stream, but man i enjoy it really a lot.
hes not acting like a 12 year old, he gives great insight and he is able to admit when he fucked up.
thats all i want from a streamer


Wait what. Everytime I tune into his stream he's shouting worth than Hotshot ever did. Do I catch him during his period or something? =S


i only watch him during scrims, so that may affect what i see of him, but he seemed pretty mannered during those, plus he provided some decent insight into the goals of his jungle paths and general team decisions every once in awhile.

in solo q TOO rages a good amount but he still provides some good insight now and then. He's also pretty good at realizing his mistakes, not as good as Chaox, but not as bad as say HSGG or Regi.

You obviously dont watch enough streams.. Regi realizes his mistakes. Most people just watch a streamer once or twice for maybe 15 minutes and stereotype him, I guess some people get bad streaks or dont find what they are looking for and never watch again, then say things like this on forums.

Quite the opposite. I watch hella streams. All streamers realize their own mistakes to different degrees. Regi has been better of late, but in the past he'd rage and blame teammates pretty handily. It's because I watch a ton of streams I can say this. Chaox is by far the most manner and chill streamer to watch and I just use him as comparison.

I started out by loving Chaox and Xpecial and hating Reginald and TOO, now I can say it's completely the opposite for me. Chaox and Xpecial seemed nice and chillax at first, but after a while you realized that deeper down they are not nice and their manner is just them keeping a cool head. Reginald and TOO,on the other hand, dont keep their calm, which is why they rage. But deep down I feel that they are nicer than Chaox and Xpecial. This may seem a bit vague but I just prefer r and too now, and when I want to watch a truly nice, cool headed guy I watch bob.


Wut. This person is not angry so OBVIOUSLY they are hate filled people. This person is angry and raging so obviously is a kind and loving person who wants to hug and kiss the guy they called "fuckign retarded"

I mean I can see the allure of raging as its rather amusing, and on some levels you can connect to it, but I don't think its appropriate to say that Chaox and Xpecial's manner is because they, as you say, are not nice deeper down... maybe they are just manner people
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 26 2011 03:34 GMT
#3544
you are taking words out of my mouth. I never said those things must be tied together, I just said that in this case they are. Please refrain from using bad arguments if you wish to lead an intelligent discussion with me.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 03:42:45
December 26 2011 03:35 GMT
#3545
On December 26 2011 12:06 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 12:03 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 26 2011 12:01 OutlaW- wrote:
On December 26 2011 10:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 26 2011 10:17 barbsq wrote:
On December 26 2011 09:55 r.Evo wrote:
On December 26 2011 08:55 Nero. wrote:
i just recently started watching TheOddOne stream, but man i enjoy it really a lot.
hes not acting like a 12 year old, he gives great insight and he is able to admit when he fucked up.
thats all i want from a streamer


Wait what. Everytime I tune into his stream he's shouting worth than Hotshot ever did. Do I catch him during his period or something? =S


i only watch him during scrims, so that may affect what i see of him, but he seemed pretty mannered during those, plus he provided some decent insight into the goals of his jungle paths and general team decisions every once in awhile.

in solo q TOO rages a good amount but he still provides some good insight now and then. He's also pretty good at realizing his mistakes, not as good as Chaox, but not as bad as say HSGG or Regi.

You obviously dont watch enough streams.. Regi realizes his mistakes. Most people just watch a streamer once or twice for maybe 15 minutes and stereotype him, I guess some people get bad streaks or dont find what they are looking for and never watch again, then say things like this on forums.

Quite the opposite. I watch hella streams. All streamers realize their own mistakes to different degrees. Regi has been better of late, but in the past he'd rage and blame teammates pretty handily. It's because I watch a ton of streams I can say this. Chaox is by far the most manner and chill streamer to watch and I just use him as comparison.

I started out by loving Chaox and Xpecial and hating Reginald and TOO, now I can say it's completely the opposite for me. Chaox and Xpecial seemed nice and chillax at first, but after a while you realized that deeper down they are not nice and their manner is just them keeping a cool head. Reginald and TOO,on the other hand, dont keep their calm, which is why they rage. But deep down I feel that they are nicer than Chaox and Xpecial. This may seem a bit vague but I just prefer r and too now, and when I want to watch a truly nice, cool headed guy I watch bob.

You speak as tho you know them irl lol. w/e floats your boat man.
EDIT: Since you seem so butthurt I'll break it down for you.
Chaox and Xpecial seemed nice and chillax at first, but after a while you realized that deeper down they are not nice
Deeper down? How do you know what they're like "deeper down" unless you know 'em irl? How do you know that "deep down" Regi and TOO are "nicer than Chaox and Xpecial?" Have you met them? And what you say seems really contradictory.

TBH, my favorite streamer is TOO and Dan Dinh. I personally find TOO hella entertaining and his knowledge of junglin is really good. I used to like SV but he's been on a trolling streak last time I was watchign him and it got old. Dan Dinh is just a chill guy all around and has really good knowledge of the game. I'm not hating on your take on the streamers. Different strokes for different folks and all that but the way you put it seems like you know them intimately.

On taric. He's got pretty nice burst in early game with his dazzle-shatter combo, and he can set up some really sick lanes like Taric/Garen. The problem is that he's just not as strong as other support champs relatively. Sona has stronger/more reliable auras and has comparable burst in lane. If you want to set up a stun/rape lane Leona is arguably better and has more damage 'cause of her passive. Taric's heal is long cd and doesn't heal much compared to say Soraka heal. Soraka also gives more armor too lol. Taric's a relic of the past imo
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 26 2011 03:37 GMT
#3546
why do i even try
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
December 26 2011 03:39 GMT
#3547
I'd say the big difference between guys like chaox and guys like reginald is that if chaox is in a bad mood he will get introspective but if reginald is in a bad mood he will yell it out. so maybe 100% of what chaox is saying is insightful but where he would be silent reginald would be yelling shit. just yesterday i was watching his stream and he was winning, he called the other guy noob and baddie, and then he laughed and said "wow dude look at how infantile my insults are...'you are bad at this, you are new at this...' lol."

as for TOO, maybe he's smart but i literally can't watch him for more than 3 seconds because of his voice
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
December 26 2011 03:49 GMT
#3548
yeah i don't really have any basis for it, but i definitely get the impression that "deep down" theoddone is a decent human being and that maybe even a lot of his raging stems from certain housemates rubbing off on him.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 26 2011 04:11 GMT
#3549
Chaox a nice guy?

Apparently you guys all forgot about the time when TSM was a younger team, Chaox was shit-talking Xpecial so hard that Regi had to mute him on stream.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 26 2011 04:15 GMT
#3550
On December 26 2011 12:17 Requizen wrote:
Just picked up Taric, since Support is the only role I don't play. I suddenly start reading everywhere that he's the worst support out there. Truth?

he's pretty bad >.>
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 26 2011 04:19 GMT
#3551
On December 26 2011 13:15 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 12:17 Requizen wrote:
Just picked up Taric, since Support is the only role I don't play. I suddenly start reading everywhere that he's the worst support out there. Truth?

he's pretty bad >.>

That sucks, he's pretty fun. I feel like his early game is really strong, though. That stun at low levels is crazy.
It's your boy Guzma!
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
December 26 2011 04:22 GMT
#3552
IMO Taric is a great support because he has everything a support needs - a hard CC (stun + point & click!) and a heal, and as a bonus, an armour buff.

It's true he does get outclassed by other supports, he's still a great support that when played will do a lot for your team.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 26 2011 04:37 GMT
#3553
On December 26 2011 12:17 Requizen wrote:
Just picked up Taric, since Support is the only role I don't play. I suddenly start reading everywhere that he's the worst support out there. Truth?


all the playable supports are crazy good so that's not saying much.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 26 2011 04:41 GMT
#3554
On December 26 2011 13:19 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 13:15 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 26 2011 12:17 Requizen wrote:
Just picked up Taric, since Support is the only role I don't play. I suddenly start reading everywhere that he's the worst support out there. Truth?

he's pretty bad >.>

That sucks, he's pretty fun. I feel like his early game is really strong, though. That stun at low levels is crazy.

dont let people tell you a hero is bad, if the champ is fun for you to play then stick with it and improve your game instead, just like ud improve your macro before doing advanced strategies in sc2
anyway, i actually think taric is really strong
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
December 26 2011 04:42 GMT
#3555
On December 26 2011 13:22 Abenson wrote:
IMO Taric is a great support because he has everything a support needs - a hard CC (stun + point & click!) and a heal, and as a bonus, an armour buff.

It's true he does get outclassed by other supports, he's still a great support that when played will do a lot for your team.

The problem with this is "great" is a relative concept in LoL (like in all games, really). If Taric is outclassed by other supports than he's not great. Your team is weaker than it should be because you chose Taric rather than a support that 'outclasses' him.

Its not about making "good" decisions but optimal decisions. Its debatable whether Taric IS outclassed but if he is then he cannot be considered great. Of course if you're not too worried about winning then who cares, knock yourself out.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
December 26 2011 04:45 GMT
#3556
taric is weaker then the rest of the main supports but he is still fine. the one advantage i think he has is he is a very safe oracles carrier so i always try to get one early on him.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
December 26 2011 04:53 GMT
#3557
Ok sRaper's sleeper OPOPPOPOPPOPOPPOPP list:

1) Mundo - top lane especially, jungle is cute but top lane I swear he rapes some matchups, especially with warmog stack meta becoming so popular. Let's go over his skills: q - 99999 damage, gives him kite like singed and infinity poke and free ashe slow if you can land them, w - cc reduc is literally never on a not-super-good character so he's GOTTA be OP, e - vayne ult never off cooldown cool, good, love it, r - ya. good. love it.

2) TF - ok this guy isn't sleeper at all but DANG his damage is high for having such low cooldowns and such a ridiculous ult. Also, the whole pick a card thing was like they were trying to make a mechanic that required skill and then forgot to make it hard. Clicking the button when you want that kind of card isn'tthat hard guys COME ON.

3) Poppy - why does everyone ignore her. Easy to rape in lane but can now jungle easily and has massive scary ganks

4) Twitch - mayb just low level pub stomp but he's hella good in jungle with that stealth.

5) Veigar - ya

6) Kat - no one plays her anymore but she's still good I believe, especially in low elo where people get confused about stuff.

7) Cass - still fuck strong IDK why more people don't play her. too many skillshots or SOMETHIN.

Ok that's all. Everyone agree? good. <3<3
Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
December 26 2011 04:58 GMT
#3558
Morde es still #1 OP.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 26 2011 05:00 GMT
#3559
2) TF - ok this guy isn't sleeper at all but DANG his damage is high for having such low cooldowns and such a ridiculous ult. Also, the whole pick a card thing was like they were trying to make a mechanic that required skill and then forgot to make it hard. Clicking the button when you want that kind of card isn't that hard guys COME ON.


People claiming AD TF is terrible is funny. Maybe he's not S-class like Vayne or whatever, but AS/AD TF will dominate people with his low-CD stun, high range poke, and still imba-as-fuck ult. Enemies just assume he's bad and I'm trolling, then I stomp lane. Fun times.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 26 2011 05:01 GMT
#3560
On December 26 2011 13:58 Alay wrote:
Morde es still #1 OP.



Morde's bad bro.
It's your boy Guzma!
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