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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 24 2011 22:44 GMT
#3441
On December 25 2011 07:17 mr_tolkien wrote:
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On December 25 2011 07:11 BlackPaladin wrote:
Vs champs like noct or rammus you need to ward further down in the river. Otherwise you won't even see them in time to react correctly.

The whole "why should we have true damage" statement is retarded to me. Having different types of damage is perfectly fine. An alistar ults. Problem? NOPE, TRUE DAMAGE. Different types of damage can counter different things.

I'm pretty sure his ult did reduce true damage at a certain time XD


Yeah but it wasn't supposed to. :D
They finally fixed it so it doesn't anymore lol.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 23:14:16
December 24 2011 23:08 GMT
#3442
True damage is fine, some things can just build so tanky and be like herpaderp(HP>last whisper/void staff aswell).
If you think they should remove true damage why not remove all types of damage and only have like physical damage, so dumb that you have to buy both armour and mr if you want to reduce physical and magical damage.
Buying hp effectively reduces true damage(except for vayne, which right now can be reduced with dodge).
Changing most of the true damage to physical/magical damage would barely affect squishies and only make the shit that builds tanky harder to kill. League of Bruisers.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 23:22:35
December 24 2011 23:21 GMT
#3443
On December 25 2011 06:36 NSANE.hydra wrote:
All I am saying is that irreducible damage is an unnecessary mechanic.

Uh, why?

In fact, I have the precisely opposite opinion, true damage is good for the game in small doses because like JackDino said, it provides a check vs. tanky characters.
I will eat you alive
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 24 2011 23:24 GMT
#3444
True damage serves one very important purpose... to feast the Bear when his passive kicks in, and also Alistar when he pops his ult way too freaking late. :D
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 23:27:45
December 24 2011 23:26 GMT
#3445
On December 25 2011 08:21 FieryBalrog wrote:
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On December 25 2011 06:36 NSANE.hydra wrote:
All I am saying is that irreducible damage is an unnecessary mechanic.

Uh, why?

In fact, I have the precisely opposite opinion, true damage is good for the game in small doses because like JackDino said, it provides a check vs. tanky characters.

It doesn't provide a check. It causes tremendous inconsistency since so few characters have it. There is no good HP option to be built by carries, whereas MR and Armor can be picked up in a normal build by both AD ranged and mages.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 23:30:07
December 24 2011 23:29 GMT
#3446
On December 25 2011 08:26 Craton wrote:
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On December 25 2011 08:21 FieryBalrog wrote:
On December 25 2011 06:36 NSANE.hydra wrote:
All I am saying is that irreducible damage is an unnecessary mechanic.

Uh, why?

In fact, I have the precisely opposite opinion, true damage is good for the game in small doses because like JackDino said, it provides a check vs. tanky characters.

It doesn't provide a check. It causes tremendous inconsistency since so few characters have it. There is no good HP option to be built by carries, whereas MR and Armor can be picked up in a normal build by both AD ranged and mages.

This may be true for AD carries, but I don't think you can say RoA doesn't count as "a good HP option".
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 23:41:14
December 24 2011 23:39 GMT
#3447
There is no normal build for ad carries that picks up MR and armour, going wriggles isn't really a normal build but a situational item over 2-3 dorans(which happen to give HP) of the time and the only MR you'll ever build is most likely going to be a BV or QSS, 1 of these also gives HP and both are gonna be build quite late.
Ad carries are so squishy in general dealing true damage or not against them doesn't matter that much anyways.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
December 24 2011 23:54 GMT
#3448
On December 25 2011 08:21 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 06:36 NSANE.hydra wrote:
All I am saying is that irreducible damage is an unnecessary mechanic.

Uh, why?

In fact, I have the precisely opposite opinion, true damage is good for the game in small doses because like JackDino said, it provides a check vs. tanky characters.


You already have a check for tanks, hybrid damage. If you're letting a tank get farmed to the point of being an issue without true damage then there's a huge issue in the play, not a need for a mechanic like true damage. It's like "oh this vayne was way too strong, nerf" when you let her farm bt, ie, pd and cleaver. Kind of your own fault. Also tanks are made to be precisely that, tanks, they're supposed to be able to take a lot of damage.
Hi
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 00:02:03
December 24 2011 23:58 GMT
#3449
On December 25 2011 08:54 kidd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 08:21 FieryBalrog wrote:
On December 25 2011 06:36 NSANE.hydra wrote:
All I am saying is that irreducible damage is an unnecessary mechanic.

Uh, why?

In fact, I have the precisely opposite opinion, true damage is good for the game in small doses because like JackDino said, it provides a check vs. tanky characters.


You already have a check for tanks, hybrid damage. If you're letting a tank get farmed to the point of being an issue without true damage then there's a huge issue in the play, not a need for a mechanic like true damage. It's like "oh this vayne was way too strong, nerf" when you let her farm bt, ie, pd and cleaver. Kind of your own fault. Also tanks are made to be precisely that, tanks, they're supposed to be able to take a lot of damage.

Except, at some point a vayne will get whatever items she wants, at which point dealing true damage or not doesn't really matter that much vs most champs.
Tanks are not made to be able to take a lot of damage, they're made to take damage and disrupt the enemy team, but right now they also deal a lot of damage.
There are no pure tanks in this game, maybe some champs like amumu when they dont build any AP.
As for letting tanks get farmed, having abilities like alistar ult or exhaust has nothing to do with letting champs farm.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 01:03:42
December 25 2011 00:38 GMT
#3450
"Tanks" don´t safely divert damage, they allow their teams to punish anyone that uses CDs on them. In general Defense outscales Damage, you get more survivability compared to killingpower for the same gold - until % penetration is picked up.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
December 25 2011 00:39 GMT
#3451
Omg TOO stream is hilarious. That sona nidalee trade
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 25 2011 00:59 GMT
#3452
Do you have to log in to get your 450 RP for being a good boy or can I just wait until January when the computer I'm on is actually capable of running the game?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
December 25 2011 01:02 GMT
#3453
On December 25 2011 09:39 epoc wrote:
Omg TOO stream is hilarious. That sona nidalee trade


Link? plz
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
December 25 2011 01:04 GMT
#3454
On December 25 2011 09:59 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Do you have to log in to get your 450 RP for being a good boy or can I just wait until January when the computer I'm on is actually capable of running the game?


Just check the client, there is no need to start a match.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 25 2011 01:05 GMT
#3455
On December 25 2011 10:04 Unentschieden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 09:59 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Do you have to log in to get your 450 RP for being a good boy or can I just wait until January when the computer I'm on is actually capable of running the game?


Just check the client, there is no need to start a match.


The whole point is that I don't want to patch the client on this computer though
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 25 2011 01:05 GMT
#3456
On December 25 2011 09:59 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Do you have to log in to get your 450 RP for being a good boy or can I just wait until January when the computer I'm on is actually capable of running the game?


It's automatically added. I logged on and had 1870 RP lolol. Not being able to play much anymore too good.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
December 25 2011 01:08 GMT
#3457
On December 25 2011 10:05 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 09:59 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Do you have to log in to get your 450 RP for being a good boy or can I just wait until January when the computer I'm on is actually capable of running the game?


It's automatically added. I logged on and had 1870 RP lolol. Not being able to play much anymore too good.


But if you're not playing much wouldn't all that RP go to waste? *wink wink*
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 25 2011 01:13 GMT
#3458
TT I like playing but the card I got as a gift no work, so I no get happy tree gift throwing maokai yet. Soon though, soon I will has it and then the pirate tristana.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
December 25 2011 01:32 GMT
#3459
The games recently have been really miserable. Is it due to the holidays?
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 25 2011 01:34 GMT
#3460
All the kiddies are out of school, so lots of retards to mess up games.
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